lets talk about FREEKICKS ..... again.

[Doctor DOOM]

yes, ... again.

especially since :

1- we have drawn against two physical teams ( angola and mexico )

2- we have a few players who would DRAW fouls by the opponents, like karimi, borhani, kia, daei, VH, ...


any team would make use of such a situation and tries to bolster its freekick situation.

and since under such conservative mentality, our TM has almost FORGOTTEN how to play offensive football, and with the draught of goals scored by our team, it is of even more dire consequences that we SHOULD think of the few occasions and chances we get during the games.





whom do we have?
daei, kia, zandi are usually the three who take them.

but there are two kinds:
1- indirect and
2- direct.

while for the indirect, kia has been very good and zandi has been adequate, we still dont have someone for the DIRECT ones.

yes, zandi did score one. but as we say, ba yek gol bahar nemisheh.
he is NOT our answer for a player specialized for DIRECT freekicks.

daei is quite acceptable, and has done well in the past.
but will he always take them?

what about the situations, where he ( for his height ) goes to RECIEVE the ball, if it is taken indirectly ... even as a ruse ?

WHO then?

who is more well known for his freekicks and especially for the DIRECT ones?

who is well known for this crucial aspect of a game.
( crucial, coz many TOP european teams DECIDE their games based on freekicks , and it is such freekicks that usually separate the losers and winners.
just ask nakisa and mihailovic )

anyone?

did anyone mention the "M" word?

[Arashi_Washi]

MOOBALIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

Nekonam could put them in the back of the net with his powerful shots aswell though.

[faraz]

Very good post. Mobali would be a HUGE asset, and seeing as how we do have the players to get free kicks in dominant positions, it would be ideal for Branko to call him up.

If Mobali and Kazemian are not on the TM bench come WC time, then we should not sub a single player out, because no1 is even close in terms of quality to these 2 players on our bench

[Doctor DOOM]

MOOBALIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

arash jan ... dont scream HERE.

you can go to that face you've kept under ur name and scream at HIM.
coz it is only HIS lajbaazi that we dont have such an implement in our team to use against decent teams.

[Mr.Good]

This is not American Football where you have specilized teams. Its not likewe can call Mobali from the bench every time we get a free kick. Mobali is a good player, but he lacks many other qualities like descision making.

[Doctor DOOM]

This is not American Football where you have specilized teams. Its not likewe can call Mobali from the bench every time we get a free kick. Mobali is a good player, but he lacks many other qualities like descision making.

first of all, mrgood jan, many teams RELY on such tactics to win games.
especially when they have such players.

players like beckham, mihailiovic, figo, rivaldo, ... FORCE this kind of tactic on their team, coz the coach obviously will NOT say no to an extra route to score.

I mean no SANE coach would do so.



as for your false remark of "decision making":
I know exactly where u got that from.
and beleive me, I kept quiet when that remark came up.

but when our friend came up with that "explanation" ( more like excuse ) for exclusion of mobaali, I shd have asked him HOW many players in the team ( many fixed ) are suffering from the same supposed "decision making" problem.

when a player barely WALKS , ... heh .... we can forget about "decisions".

when a player "does make a decision" and yet most times, the ball ends with the opponent, then what kind of decision making is that?

when we see many "choices" for the first team take EVEN MORE time to make their mind up, and most either lose the ball or waste time and/or give a back pass, which helps NO-ONE . ...... then how can we pick on ONE players and falsely accuse him of this?

I ask you, friend:
how many players in the TM play a one-touch pass game ?
.... that having so many of them, makes mobaali's efforts seem so out of sync with the rest ?
I am EXTREMELY curious.


and I hope you would answer me this, coz once and for all , we must put to rest this FALSE accusation ( and excuse for branko's childish lajbaazi ) .

we cant just swallow anything that is thrown about, and NOT question it and try to find out about it.
can we?
if we do, what does that tell about us?

[KasraKhan]

I dont think a player can be on the pitch for the SOLE REASON of his free-kick taking ability.

A player has to be well rounded and his free-kick ability should be just one of his weapons in his arsenal, not his only weapon

[Doctor DOOM]

and kasra jan, we all know mobaali brings a LOT to the table:

shooting,
passing
playmaking
pace

and that FREEKICK specialty is just the mega-BONUS.

[Mansoor]

Peyman jaan, this thread of yours should be just enough to prove the point I had for a long time ......

And in the middle of this hype about WC draw and else, you still find a way to shove your favorite player into this with a long, well written proposal to present your case in a new format

[Doctor DOOM]

hehehe mansoor jan, what can I say if it does make a compelling case for Mobaali?

blame it on him being a formidable and more importantly, a versatile player.


versatile, coz on almost any occasion we have, he can be useful to the team.
( almost, coz if we were to meet the norwegian [who r out anyway ] or english or danes, then he would be out of his league in physicality )



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btw, our dear mrgood hasnt answered the Q ( in blue ) yet.
just a reminder.

[zzgloo]

In TM practices, do we have any player to kick the ball from the center of the field in to the Gole ? even reach close to it ?

[Mr.Good]

I ask you, friend:
how many players in the TM play a one-touch pass game ?

Let me list you some names:
Zandi, Daei, Kia, Vahid, Nekounam, and most recently Karimi, are all capable and do play fast combinational game.

One other point not related to your question. How many goals did you see Mobali score from freekicks on International level. All the freekick gaols he scored in IPL are against crappy goalies. once I saw him score a free kick from very long distance, the keaper reached the ball easily, but he could not control it. Do you think international goalies are like IPL ones.
Even in UAE, so far Mobali scored nothing out of free kicks. UAE lacks good goalies similar to us (Their best keaper plays in Mobali's team). a couple of games i saw him play in Al-Shabab, he got many free kicks around the box, he took almost all of them and he scored non.

We have four midfield positions. Mobali cannot play defensive mid, or left mid. That leaves us with two position AM and RM. Do you really believe that mobali can replace Karimi or Kia, even as a sub we have other players that can play that position better for example Navidkia.

[fsec]

Can you not see the whole point of this thread as being a thinly veiled attempt at promoting his pet boy of the moment.

Whatever Mobali's good or bad points, our friend mr D has taken it upon himself to promote whomsoever he wants onto TM, whether it be a player, coach or abdarchi.

Makes you wonder whether mr D has taken up a new position with IV and their bedfellows in the gutter press.

[fsec]

Let me list you some names:
Zandi, Daei, Kia, Vahid, Nekounam, and most recently Karimi, are all capable and do play fast combinational game.
One other point not related to your question. How many goals did you see Mobali score from freekicks on International level. All the freekick gaols he scored in IPL are against crappy goalies. once I saw him score a free kick from very long distance, the keaper reached the ball easily, but he could not control it. Do you think international goalies are like IPL ones.
Even in UAE, so far Mobali scored nothing out of free kicks. UAE lacks good goalies similar to us (Their best keaper plays in Mobali's team). a couple of games i saw him play in Al-Shabab, he got many free kicks around the box, he took almost all of them and he scored non.
We have four midfield positions. Mobali cannot play defensive mid, or left mid. That leaves us with two position AM and RM. Do you really believe that mobali can replace Karimi or Kia, even as a sub we have other players that can play that position better for example Navidkia.

Mr.Good jan,

Your explanation was exact and to the point, but not for mr D. His promotion of Mobali seems to be more of an attempt at using (in this instance, abusing) the poor fellow to attack the coach rather than get him into the team.

I do believe mr D has no interest in anyone that cannot be used to undermine and attack TM and its staff. I am sure he is fully aware that there are more experienced players that make up the backbone of the team, but by chipping away at that backbone, he hopes to eventually fracture it and cause TM's paralysis. Once TM is paralysed and cannot function, he will more than gladly blame the coach. Mr D reminds me of a person that would cut his own nose to spite his face.

You see, there are some whose fanatical hatred of a person will cause them to abuse and destroy everyone they can (in this case poor Mobali) as long as they can achieve their dream of destroying TM just to make a name for themselves.

familiar scenario?

Yes, the Iranian gutter press seems to have infiltrated these forums.

[Mr.Good]

Chakerim, Fsec jan,

I know that Mr. D is a lost case, my explanation was for the rest of our member. We dont want those to be fooled by the D.
anyways, I thought he gave up, maybe the D will give up once hell freezes.

As for Mobali, untill he improves himself, he will not have any place in TM. Moabli was part of TM longer (since 2000) than any other sub or even some of our starters. He had lots of potential but he could not build on that. Many players took the little time they got and made themselves startes, but not him. Look at borhani for example, com pare Borhani of pre summer 2005 and post summer 2005. some players have the will to improve themselves and some others dont. Hopefully Mobali now that he is far from the pressure and our corrupt media, will have the time to improve his game.