Questions brought up by UAE game

[Darvish11]

Answer as many as you can

1. Who should be Hashemian's striking partner? Akbarpour, Enayati, or Borhani? The early favorite was Borhani but with the perfomances of these Esteghlali's today we may have to reconsider. Maybe we have three strikers, Ghalenoei plays 3-4-3 sometimes.

2. Is Mobali overhyped? I never saw what was so amazing about him. It was one of the few things that I sided with Branko, not inviting him. He showed nothing today.

3. Who should Be our defensive midfielders? We have Kazemi who played great today, but we already have Nekounam and Teymourian.

4. Should Shojaei be starting? He was one of the best players today. Is there room in the starting lineup for him?

5. Should Kaebi start somehow regardless of the formation? Today a 4 back formation and the only reason I can imagine for the exclusion of Kaebi was to test out new players, but even with a 3 back, I think we need this guy. The extreme lack of speed from the defense was glaring. We have 3 great defensive mids, it cant hurt that much to have Kaebi.

6. When the Euro based players come back, what should our lineup be? Who are the 3 players that will come off the bench?

7. Why are Khatibi and Rajabzadeh playing for TM?

8. How old is Akbarpour (I just want to know for myself)

I thought I had more, but I guess not.

[Doctor DOOM]

my take on the game:

1- overall, it is early to judge the strenght of this new avatar of TM.
so I shall reserve it after a couple of games.
the team and players being in that crucial middle period , between being match-ready and physical build up & training, does not allow me to make a judgment strongly.

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2- I was disappointed in a couple of players.
some of these guys didnt deliver what was expected.

I will not judge them , and wont make the mistake of comparing the situation BEFORE the world cup - where every player outside tried to push himself hard to be included , were all fit and ready while the league games were going on, .... and a whole lot of other factors that makes that period VERY VERY DIFFERENT FROM NOW.


we MUST remember this is the period after Iranian football's mishap at the WC, morale may not be as high, bodies are not as fit ( no league ), motivation may be a dicey issue, .....

a- moballi has tremendous potential, but I can understand after the WC and run up to the WC, many deserving players like him will be slow to start to deliver.
hr did have some touches, but none were inthe high caliber he used to offer some months ago.
very ordinary.

b- same with kazemian.

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3- if one holds a gun to my head and forces me to choose the better players in this game, I'd have to say :
a- kazemi ( except a couple of occasions )
b- fekri ( " " " " " )
c- Sadeghi ( " " " " )
d- Shakoori ( solid game )

but then again, UAE doesnt exactly "rock" in offense, for me to keep them as my measuring stick.

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4- absolutely horrendous and pathetic performances by :

a- Niki ( excpet one pass ....... in all those 60-70 minutes he played !!! )

b- Akbarpoor - horrible, brainless display
he doesnt deserve TM's jersey, if he keeps it up like this.


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we , also shd remember the team struck the posts on no less than 3 different
occasions.
had those gone in, many would have had a different view on the matters.



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final word : I'll reserve my judgement for the time after the korea game.
but the first half wasnt all that worrying.

with 2-3 more friendly games ( if possible) I feel these guys will evolve into something more potent.

[yashar_fasihnia]

Answer as many as you can
1. Who should be Hashemian's striking partner? Akbarpour, Enayati, or Borhani? The early favorite was Borhani but with the perfomances of these Esteghlali's today we may have to reconsider. Maybe we have three strikers, Ghalenoei plays 3-4-3 sometimes.

I really dont find any of our strikers useful except akbarpour. he too shows clear signs of inexperience and youth by being selfish or delaying his passes at times but atleast, he runs as long as he is on the field, he is "jangandeh" always pressurizing the opponent, and has decent tecqnique and speed. he has good shooting skills too. I did rather spend the time and energy on this guy rather than the old useless strikers like majidi and khatibi. even enayati in my opinion wont succeed much on an international scale and wont be of much use to TM, neither in quality of games, nor in quantity of time he will be serving iran.
Frankly speaking, if we are gonna play with 1 good striker like hashemian and partner him up with an overall average striker, atleast spend the time and energy on a young talent like oladi who has a good phsyqiue and good technik and help him improve his experience and understanding of football or akbarpour!

So i say akbarpour or oladi.

2. Is Mobali overhyped? I never saw what was so amazing about him. It was one of the few things that I sided with Branko, not inviting him. He showed nothing today.

he has yet to prove himself consisntently on an international stage. with all the hype thats made of him, navidkia and jabbari seem to atleast live upto the fans expectations.

however, this is a new coach, new system, new team mates, and hence a new chance to our young talented mobali. i think we need more time to judge him.

3. Who should Be our defensive midfielders? We have Kazemi who played great today, but we already have Nekounam and Teymourian.

Unforunately, all our future stars seem to become defensive midfielders. First nekounam, then teymourian, now kazemi. and wats worse, most coaches usually use only 1 defensive midfielder in their formations. its a pity atleast one of them will be sacrificed for the rest.
if i had to compare these 3 players to 3 european players, i would say nekounam is similar to viera, teymourian to hargreaves and kazemi to gattuso.

4. Should Shojaei be starting? He was one of the best players today. Is there room in the starting lineup for him?

Nope, he is as raw as oladi is. if shojaei deserves a chance, why not oladi?
unfortunately, both jabbari and navidkia are not fit to play, hence players liek rajabzadeh and shojaei are getting their chances but from the looks of it, they are here in TM only temporarily.

5. Should Kaebi start somehow regardless of the formation? Today a 4 back formation and the only reason I can imagine for the exclusion of Kaebi was to test out new players, but even with a 3 back, I think we need this guy. The extreme lack of speed from the defense was glaring. We have 3 great defensive mids, it cant hurt that much to have Kaebi.

yes, we can use him but the question is will ghalenoi use him?
For example, he can be paired up with mahdavikia just like nikki and madanchi were paired up today but then the question is, is ghalenoi gonna prefer a madanchi-nikki combo or a kia-kaabi combo?
To have both these combos is not possible because this takes up 4 positions in the midfield and we still have to fit nekounam (DM) and karimi (AM) in the formation as well unless in a 3-5-2 system unless ghalenoi decides to play with one real strike like hashemian and play karimi or kia behind him somehow.

6. When the Euro based players come back, what should our lineup be? Who are the 3 players that will come off the bench?

this is difficult.
first of all, its hard to think where rezai will play. the immediate answer is fekri but the problem is rezai isnt a sweeper type of defender unlike fekri and bakhtiarizade. so naturally, he will have to play instead of shakouri or sadeghi. my guess is sadeghi will stay and shakouri will be benched because ghalenoi knows sadeghi's capabilities and there is a better understanding between sadeghi and ghalenoi and between sadeghi and fekri (incase fekri does become our sweeper)
Also, nosrati is injured right now,else he might take sadeghi's place in the starting 11 as well.

Also, there is a question about the starting goal keeper. in his first friendly against rah ahan, ghalenoi used rahmati. today in a more serious game, ghalenoi used talebloo and is expected by most people to be the starting GK. however, in one recent interview just before the UAE game, talebloo said that "considering mirzapours current situation, i think i will be starting in the goal against UAE". also notice that the #1 jersey was not worn by talebloo and roudbarian was wearing his #12 jersey. So, i really dunno who ghalenoi considers his number 1 GK.

Maybe a formation like this:

-----------------talebloo/mirzapour------------------
----------------------fekri-------------------------
-----rezai------------------------sadeghi---------

-------------------nekounam------------------------
--------kaabi---------------------------nikki---
------------kia-----------------madanchi-----
-------------------karimi-----------------
-------------------------hashemian----------------

he might remove either kaabi, madanchi or nikki and put in a second forward or just another midfielder like teymourian in the middle.

7. Why are Khatibi and Rajabzadeh playing for TM?

khatibi because he faces competition from the likes of farhad majidi!

rajabzadeh was ok, he is quick and clever, but too weak physically. i say give him more time before judging him.

8. How old is Akbarpour (I just want to know for myself)
I thought I had more, but I guess not.

24 i think..

[morti]

well, since this is a more mature conversation then in football forum, ill have my say in this..

first of all, in this game, Ghale noii didnt want to get in too much tactical change, he kept the 4-4-2.

i think that the best option for this TM should be a 3-4-3 formation..
in which hashemians shadow will be Karimi..

Benching kaebi is not an option and its not needed also..

and fekri, is a good backup but in my opinion not a starter.. both the kaebi thing and this i will explain later.

and shojaei and mobali are both so unlucky karimi is out there..

finally, this is how i like to see TM play, and i think this can happen:

-------------------------------Hashemian
----------------Madanchi--------Karimi------------Mahdavikia
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------------------Nikbakht------Nekounam--------Kaebi
----------------------Sadeghi--Teymoorian--Rezaei
--------------------------------Talebloo


this is why: the reason fekri managed to get that position is because in a 3 man defence the centre defender pushes forward with the team when possible, teymoorian is perfect for that, because of his magnificant defencive work but a less offencive play which doesnt make him the fav for the ''nekounam'' role..

just like today, madanchi and nikbakht are able to fill each others position and even better can mehdi and kaebi so our left and right side will be deadly and sooo suprising for every opponent..

nekounam is the playmaker and karimi will draw ppl to the middle and play in a free role..

this is just perfect and call me stubborn but i wont listen to any critics about it

[zzgloo]

Here is my take on ,this semi seriouse game...against a weak opponant..

A= It is too soon to judge galenoee.....

B= TM, as is, needs more time together to have a chamistry.

C= The secound half let-down still exist.as it may be our main problem.

D=The speed of TM during the first half was better than,TM with Branko,so was short passing game,as to nutralize opponant's advancement.

E= Shojaee, kazemi,Madanchi,and Fekri Deserve attention,and place in TM.

F= Although, Enayati did not do much,yet,he was present where he should have ,while he was on the field....he does have a feel for his position.

G= I am sorry to say, but, I feel more confident with Mirzapour .

[KasraKhan]

Was that Esteghlal or Team-melli??? During the WC, we only had 3 Esteghlal players on the WHOLE SQUAD, now we have 7 STARTING. What place does a 35 year old Fekri have in a TM that is trying to prepare for the future??? Even if Fekri is Fabian Cannavaro, he has no place in TM due to his age, we are trying to prepare for the FUTURE.

What a joke...

[SSfan]

well i will try to stick to the positive aspects of the game

1- Kazemi: I thought he was fantastic!!!!! Although the opp was weak he really bullied the midfield and had a couple of good passes, he can be great backup for the ando neku combo in CM which I hope will be the backbone of our tm in the future


2-Sadeghi: A great young defender which we really needed to freshen up our aging def.... (thank you mr golmo for having the courage to retire when it was time) Sadeghi i think will be great addition to a young defence corp of nosrati, kaabi, shakouri with rezaie as their leader

3- IPL: this was almost like IPL allstars team and i appreciate the fact that we can dominate a 2nd rate asian team with only our ipl players


finally for the line up against syria


-----------------------------taleblou------------------------

kaabi-------------rezaie-------------sadeghi----------------nikki

------------------ando--------------nekou--------------------

-----kia-----------------------------------------karimi----------

-------------------hash------------enayati-------------------

[Doctor DOOM]

kasra jan, what can we expect from a coach that has been appointed mere weeks ago?

it is but NATURAL & LOGICAL to choose more players from one club ( which he is exteremly familiar with ) for his first games.

imagine the poor fellow had to work with a bunch of players who havent played together so far and only a handful of them have been in the previous TM , who may know each other's style.
tyhis restricts the team and the coach.
so it is logical to select a bunch of players who HAVE been playing together for some time and at least that needed cohesion exists between them.

now, why ss, you may ask.
well two reasons:
1- they are the champs, and their offensive and defensive performances which topped the league are testament to it and reason enough for the selection.

2- GN has worked with them for 3 years now, so there is less time needed to make all the players familiarize with his tactics.


I dont know why ppl are questioning such basic and logical decisions !!


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as for fekri:

first of all, I am no ss fan, nor a fekri fan.
in fact I dont like him at all, and think sohrab would have been a better option.

but to be fair, we must think logically.
a new team. new coach, new staff, ... .
such occasions need at least a few experienced players to balance the equation of experience within the team.

imagine if we didnt have fekri.
how much experience would this team have?
mostly young, and some debutants at TM.
that would be disaster.

and to be honest, I think fekri did quite a fine job at the back. altho' I dont hold uae as any kind of offensive powerhouse, even within asia.
so I will wait and see what he will do against the koreans.

[morti]

kasra jan, what can we expect from a coach that has been appointed mere weeks ago?

it is but NATURAL & LOGICAL to choose more players from one club ( which he is exteremly familiar with ) for his first games.

imagine the poor fellow had to work with a bunch of players who havent played together so far and only a handful of them have been in the previous TM , who may know each other's style.
tyhis restricts the team and the coach.
so it is logical to select a bunch of players who HAVE been playing together for some time and at least that needed cohesion exists between them.

now, why ss, you may ask.
well two reasons:
1- they are the champs, and their offensive and defensive performances which topped the league are testament to it and reason enough for the selection.

2- GN has worked with them for 3 years now, so there is less time needed to make all the players familiarize with his tactics.


I dont know why ppl are questioning such basic and logical decisions !!


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as for fekri:

first of all, I am no ss fan, nor a fekri fan.
in fact I dont like him at all, and think sohrab would have been a better option.

but to be fair, we must think logically.
a new team. new coach, new staff, ... .
such occasions need at least a few experienced players to balance the equation of experience within the team.

imagine if we didnt have fekri.
how much experience would this team have?
mostly young, and some debutants at TM.
that would be disaster.

and to be honest, I think fekri did quite a fine job at the back. altho' I dont hold uae as any kind of offensive powerhouse, even within asia.
so I will wait and see what he will do against the koreans.

baba eywall, dr doom were on the same line man, im just wondering, is my post (like most of my post) invisible? why hasnt anyone reacted?

[yashar_fasihnia]

kasra jan, what can we expect from a coach that has been appointed mere weeks ago?

it is but NATURAL & LOGICAL to choose more players from one club ( which he is exteremly familiar with ) for his first games.

imagine the poor fellow had to work with a bunch of players who havent played together so far and only a handful of them have been in the previous TM , who may know each other's style.
tyhis restricts the team and the coach.
so it is logical to select a bunch of players who HAVE been playing together for some time and at least that needed cohesion exists between them.

now, why ss, you may ask.
well two reasons:
1- they are the champs, and their offensive and defensive performances which topped the league are testament to it and reason enough for the selection.

2- GN has worked with them for 3 years now, so there is less time needed to make all the players familiarize with his tactics.


I dont know why ppl are questioning such basic and logical decisions !!


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as for fekri:

first of all, I am no ss fan, nor a fekri fan.
in fact I dont like him at all, and think sohrab would have been a better option.

but to be fair, we must think logically.
a new team. new coach, new staff, ... .
such occasions need at least a few experienced players to balance the equation of experience within the team.

imagine if we didnt have fekri.
how much experience would this team have?
mostly young, and some debutants at TM.
that would be disaster.

and to be honest, I think fekri did quite a fine job at the back. altho' I dont hold uae as any kind of offensive powerhouse, even within asia.
so I will wait and see what he will do against the koreans.

thankyou doctor jan, maybe they will accept this if u say because if we esteghlali's say this, people will think we are biased.

[faraz]

-------------------------------Hashemian
----------------Madanchi--------Karimi------------Mahdavikia
----------------------------------------------------------
------------------Nikbakht------Nekounam--------Kaebi
----------------------Sadeghi--Teymoorian--Rezaei
--------------------------------Talebloo

no way would i put teymourian back there as a center back...there is just no way

i like bakhtiarizadeh much better

just because we have 2 GREAT defensive midfielders does NOT mean both have to play, especially if they're forced to play out of position

[morti]

no way would i put teymourian back there as a center back...there is just no way

i like bakhtiarizadeh much better

just because we have 2 GREAT defensive midfielders does NOT mean both have to play, especially if they're forced to play out of position

fekri is a DM so is bagheri, and where do they play in 3 defence system?
right there

[faraz]

fekri is a DM so is bagheri, and where do they play in 3 defence system?
right there

sure,

but they've been tried and tested, and proved worthy.

you can't suddenly take a player and put him in that spot and expect it to be a great formation.

either way, i think have 2 great d-mids is amazing for TM.

these 2 players will only get better and compete harder for their spot - something that is lacking quite heavily all across the positions in Tm

[Doctor DOOM]

the coach explains why our expectations ought to be realisti, when it comes to the issue of motivation and physical readiness of our players.

sounds very logical, and shd open a few eyes.

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