who was defending branko and dadkan .... ?

[BehzadB]

zz jan

I live 2 months out of the year in Iran. You are right about this mess we call Iran. But, There is one differnce between the Football issue and everything else.

Sports, is the only area were people can express their displeasure with the "men in charge".

The men in charge of our Football should do a better job of explaining the short commings, the problems, the plans, and should believe in People's power of undrestanding. But they never (rarely) try to express the problems to people. Not in the right way.

for example:

When has dadkan/IFF come on TV or in the Media and talk about the REAL issues (budget, Marketing, Stadium Lighting, Horrible Fields, IPL Standards and their imporvements, Iff's limitations and problems). Why does Dadkan Allow people with NO coaching degree to coach an IPL team?

Dadkan claims that the TM has a committee called the "hayate fannee team melli". I am sure you have heard of it. Who are the members of this committee? Does anyone know? Who selects these members? He refused to name them about 5 months ago (he was asked on TV and refused). Is this the fault of the whole country? or the fault of OUR CULTURE (as some members here have stated )? Is this related to the traffic problem in Tehran?

The only things he has said is: we have won, we are going to WC, we are ranked so and so, media should only be supportive (even from two years ago), and his best line ever, "we accept constructive criticism". But NO ONE has EVER given an example of this so called " Constructive Criticism" where anything was constructed by it. EVER.

Teemsar Noamooz (whom I have had a lot of respect for) has said that Branko has done a lot of "karhaye paye-ee", but the same Mr. Noamooz FAILS to name or explain ONE OR TWO of those "karha"!!!!!

It has all been "Shoaar". Nothing more.

And if the system is so very bad and it is so impossible to work in such system, as they say here, "agha ghalat kardeh ke een kar ra ghabool kardeh". No one put a gun next to his head to take this job. Mr. Noamooz was in IFF many years ago too. He knows the F.. Ups. He should not have taken the job. there are many good people who are capable and will not TAKE the job because they know they can not do what they want to do. But dadkan takes the job, and blames all the F.. Ups on the system (and the Media) and takes all the glory when there are any. That's the sign of a SELFISH man.

If Dadkan was not Selfish we would have never had that Rah/Sanat MESS.

I used to respect Dadkan when he first started. he promised to follow in Safaee Farahani's foot step. He did not. He trashed it.

[Doctor DOOM]

thank you very much for your perfect posts behzad jan.

made my job a whole lot easier.

[zzgloo]

Behzadb jan., I am in complete agreement with you, and adding to my previouse post......Just,think of Dadkan as, last president Khatami, .......The master of talking and promising,bolony !!! in action !!!!!.............here is the system we have !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dr.shark]

hmm.. sweden comes to middle east and plays saudi ( which is fine ), but 5 days later, plays JORDAN !!!!


yes, u heard it right ; JORDAN !

the same jordan who hasnt even passed the preliminary round of qualifiers !
they get to play with sweden, and Iran, who has already qualified is no interested in arranging a game with the swedes !!!!!!

one question:
how much of fear is good for us ?

look Doctor Doom jaan
we are not going to play such weak teams as sweden they will never win the world cup.
Don't you know we were the 1st country to ever win the world cup and in that year we also came in 2nd too.
that is why we are looking to play powerful teams such as the guatemala or el salvador, nicaragwa, honduras, and let us not forget the mighty belize.
Now we all know about those countrys and how they always win over mexico now you see if we play them they would also pay us too.
and look win we won the world cup we did not have branko now we do so
if we don't play any games it is OK because we have branko.
branko is going to grow a mustash for those 3 games and he will play with it in those games to show the other teams if they win what he is going to do to them so don't worry.
branko is gona win it for us. sweden you what sweden???
do they even have a team??? now belize that's a team.

[Doctor DOOM]

LLOOLL "belize" lloolll

[RaginG Inferno]

Peyman jaan:
I am nobody to answer those questions. But, here is my thoughts over this. And I have tried many times to face you with some realities about our contry and the level of professionality existing within our country, yet I have to give opinions over these questions you ask. However , here we go again:
Quote from you:
"shdnt they have others do this?"
True Peyman jaan, they should. But you cant simply create a person from none. So the answer to your question is that almost none exists in Iran who has the capability, ability, knowledge in international affairs in Iran to choose the ideal one. As much as this federation is unable to fullfil that need from within, other federations were incapable too.
The only person in IFF who is probably capable enough to take care of these matters is Timsar Noamouz. He is/was the only one with high degree of ties with international football in the past. But, I am sure he also has agreed to give this responsibility to Branko because they are giving freedom of choice to Branko in many matters in contrast to past history in Iran. This not only holds for selecting venues, but in player selection and stuff. I know, so many people will jump on me in player selection area, but to me and based on my questionings, this is a fact at least in my opinion.
Now. Do we have capable people who are able to do this for Iran among the 70 million inside and a few million outside Iran? Sure we do. But, things does not work like this in Iran. The only way this whole issue of TM and its destiny can work is for Dadkan and Co. to be on top of everything. Believe me, they are fighting with so many things simultaneously. It is a day by day challenge. Otherwise, TM would go to World Cup with their underwares with the lenght of the shorts being below knee level. Sarcasm, but very true.
Therefore, in criticising, you need to know a few facts. You still can criticise them and there is no problem. But I feel some injustice in it when you do not see other realities involved.
Now, in the middle of all this crap, a Head Coach like Branko has accepted to do beyond his obligations for this team. Key word is "Beyond his Obligations". This means that, he did not need to do this at all, but he does it cause he wants to cooperate. This is another injustice to a man who is dedicating beyond his obligations to this team. Its really injustice by you Peyman jaan.
Peyman jaan. Good or bad, Branko is really working hard for this team. Human and Branko had explained so many times in different places that TM coach has these players in his disposal only few days prior to any games so far. Now few days may work for EPL players or spanish league or Bundesliga players. But it wont work for IPL players or even legionnaires of Iran. A team is consisted of 11 players. When all are not in the same level of infrastructural knowledge of modern football, even having players like karimi or Mehdi or Rezaei would not help much. And 5 years argument is not valid here. Count the days within this 5 years that Branko could continuously work with these guys. Specially the IPL ones. Its minimal and Branko is not a god.
I accept this notion by Branko and Human whole heartedly but not at its face value. I looked at times when this team was under Branko's exclusive direction in longer camps ( eg AC 2004). This team delivered good in those periods and one of the main reasons for it was a longer camp before those games. In contrary of what you think, I think TM performed very well in AC based on the circumstances on those days. Very, very good. A few more examples for the effect of longer camps on TM with Branko can be seen elsewhere too. One just needs to be free of any "already made" opinion about Branko and think objectively about this matter.
I am sure that TM will perform much better once we get into a longer camp period. Branko's approach to players are friendly. All professional coaches approach to players should be friendly. Cause no matter how much you tell them, it is the player who plays it. So , Branko gives a lot of credit to players and plays according to their interests too. Cause that is the only way they can/will deliver for him. Creating a friendly atmosphere with mutual respect. Thats the theme.
As for the change of venue for the camp. I have no information on it. But lets suppose it is true. Noone, Peyman jaan, knows why? There might be some valid reasons behind it which was worth a try. Those decisions are made based on certain circumstances. But at least when those circumstances are not met, there is a crew out there who does not fear to change them. Thats a good attitude and not a bad one in my opinion.
Again Peyman jaan. You always view Branko as a cheap, selfish and a monster who is doing all these stuff and laughs at us. You, to some extent, view him as a thief. You look at him as someone who is stubburn and does not listen to Soheil, Peyman, Zolfagharnasab, Jalali and ..... Your bias is that what you think is right is not necessarily right for Branko. He is not obliged to listen to anyone when he had a degree of success in Iranian football that we never tasted it in the past 2 decades at least.
I know Peyman jaan. This team is not in a very good shape. But as I mentioned many times, there might be very valid reasons apart from IFF or Branko for us being like that. Very valid reasons that is obvious to the eyes of everyone but it is a "shame" to talk about them and explaining them and admitting them will have a bad effect on the team who struggles from many sides.
You want Branko to admit certain stuff publically? He will NEVER do that. Its not professional for him to do that. Its not. You know something, you try to fix tham as much as you can. You know that you have both the intelligence and qualification to at least understand the problems and try YOUR best in fixing them. Branko will NEVER do that in the unprofesional, Iranian way. Never. He will never criticise his players (Nosrati, Mirzapour and ......) publically. He is a professional and he KNOWS that this is what Iran has got. Its not the best. They may not get it. But, thats what he has handy. So he should be patient with them and actually praise them in public and yet try his best to give them a professional way of "Gooshmali" in accordance to our "Culture".
Based on above, although I would love to see a much better Iran, I admire the man for bringing a sense of professionality in dealing with things in Iran.
No, Branko is not stubborn. He is using his very right of the profession by sticking to the rules he set forward for himself, based on success rate he sees on paper for himself and based on the level of football in Iran and the circumstances of the country in political and cultural terms. I think, Branko is a hero. He has become more Iranian than many of our hamvatans. In that, he is also smart enough in protecting his own rights as any human should do.
The right mentality is not the mentality of obeyance. Its the mentality of being yourself, believing in yourself, defending yourself and defending everything that helps your objectives. In that, listening to others is always helpfull. Nevertheless, you should not always "Obey". Unless a written law has been set for it.
Thanks
Soheil

Classy post, great insight.