Iran - Korea

[khabalood]

Madanchi is a starter for GN, just check the previous acq as proof. Kaebi deserves to be a starter 100% and especially strong cases may be made for the rest of the aforementioned players.

It does not really matter what GN thinks of them if we are talking about sending A teams as in our best team we should consider it honestly and when one does that they see that we have better players who could have played today but did not, in the same manner that Korea had a half a squad of alternates.

Your really grasping at straws now. As I said previously the squads were relatively equal.

[VivaItalia]

So it is important that Koreans changed a few players, but we should ignore the absence of Mahdavikia, Mirzapour, Rezaei, Kaebi, Madanchi who are starters, nevermind players like Manei, Zandi, Borhani, Shojaei, Mobali, and Oladi who could easily be starters as well.

Its ridiculous the lengths some Iranis go to discredit Irani achievements. The teams were missing relatively the same amount of starters. Stop making excuses.

Yashar pretty much answered it.

It's funny that you don't even like Mirzapour and don't even consider it as our best option! in a regular day, you would replace him with OOshgool-tappeh Ghamghonani from zaloo abad! Now you are counting him as an "absense"? Double standard agha joon.

Sure we missed Kia and Rezaei. only two out of main 11.
The rest haven't even been invited once by Ghalenoee! so what are you talking about? Do you think even if Korea had brought his main team, Ghalenoee would have invited different players???? Hell no. therefore this was Mr. GH (akh tof)'s main team.

So no excuses. and don't decieve yourslef by "no it wasn't our main team". yes it was.

This guy is a shameless fool who is playing with a nation. He is just using his khayehmaali to get to up there! but soon he'll fall down with his nuts and head. He is another Parvin with his stupid logic!

Khabalood jan, just remember it from me, we'll be kicked out of AC07 badly if this guy and Zagalo are the boss!

[The-Red]

i was really surprised to see nikhbakht in the lineup after his poor form in Perspolis in the last few weeks...I am not saying he played a real bad game,,,i guess he did average,,,but the fact GN insists on playing certain players,,,reminds me of Branko and his idea about no matter what some players must play.

[yashar_fasihnia]

Madanchi is a starter for GN, just check the previous acq as proof. Kaebi deserves to be a starter 100% and especially strong cases may be made for the rest of the aforementioned players.

It does not really matter what GN thinks of them if we are talking about sending A teams as in our best team we should consider it honestly and when one does that they see that we have better players who could have played today but did not, in the same manner that Korea had a half a squad of alternates.

Your really grasping at straws now. As I said previously the squads were relatively equal.

madanchi started a few games, but u urself know better when we have a full healthy team, he wont be cos our 5 midfielders will be karimi, kia,teymourian, nekounam and nikki..
3 defenders and 2 forwards..hashemian and enayati/khatibi/majidi or whoever (most probably enayati though like today)

ghalenoi played a 3-6-1 against korea and thats why madanchi was playing at the expense of another forward hoping that karimi would become a second foward which he never became...

madanchi will never be a starter in ghalenoi unless he replaces nikki..

the squads were not at all equal, korea was missing its best players!! all its legionnaires! iran was just missing 2.
how is that relatively equal??? and im the one feeding on straws here??

[khabalood]

Yashar pretty much answered it.

It's funny that you don't even like Mirzapour and don't even consider it as our best option! in a regular day, you would replace him with OOshgool-tappeh Ghamghonani from zaloo abad! Now you are counting him as an "absense"? Double standard agha joon.

Sure we missed Kia and Rezaei. only two out of main 11.
The rest haven't even been invited once by Ghalenoee! so what are you talking about? Do you think even if Korea had brought his main team, Ghalenoee would have invited different players???? Hell no. therefore this was Mr. GH (akh tof)'s main team.

So no excuses. and don't decieve yourslef by "no it wasn't our main team". yes it was.

This guy is a shameless fool who is playing with a nation. He is just using his khayehmaali to get to up there! but soon he'll fall down with his nuts and head. He is another Parvin with his stupid logic!

Khabalood jan, just remember it from me, we'll be kicked out of AC07 badly if this guy and Zagalo are the boss!

Mirzapour is much improved under GN and does not fumble and actually shows signs of confidence. At the current time I think he is our best goaltender, and should be used in important games, until a better alternative can be found.

I answered the rest of your question in my previous post.

Find a better coach then replace GN. TM should move forwards not backwards.

[Doctor DOOM]

khabalood jan, I dont have the time , nor the access to the ages of the korean players.

But what I do know is that I saw many new faces and the team looked quite young.
considering what I had read in recent weeks, I think it is safe to say this was certainly NOT korea's A side or full seniors.

[khabalood]

madanchi started a few games, but u urself know better when we have a full healthy team, he wont be cos our 5 midfielders will be karimi, kia,teymourian, nekounam and nikki..
3 defenders and 2 forwards..hashemian and enayati/khatibi/majidi or whoever (most probably enayati though like today)
ghalenoi played a 3-6-1 against korea and thats why madanchi was playing at the expense of another forward hoping that karimi would become a second foward which he never became...
madanchi will never be a starter in ghalenoi unless he replaces nikki..
the squads were not at all equal, korea was missing its best players!! all its legionnaires! iran was just missing 2.
how is that relatively equal??? and im the one feeding on straws here??

GN has played Madanchi, it has been in lw at the expense of Nikbakht. So Madanchi is the preferred player.

Korea was not missing all their legionaries. Their captain is a legionnaire. In addition they have less legionaries than we do.

TM was missing 4 starters: Mahdavikia, Rezaei, Mirzapour and Madanchi. Kaebi also deserves to be in the starting line up as well which would take it to five, which is half our team. Relatively equal to the half a team Korea was missing.

[yashar_fasihnia]

GN has played Madanchi, it has been in lw at the expense of Nikbakht. So Madanchi is the preferred player.

Korea was not missing all their legionaries. Their captain is a legionnaire. In addition they have less legionaries than we do.

TM was missing 4 starters: Mahdavikia, Rezaei, Mirzapour and Madanchi. Kaebi also deserves to be in the starting line up as well which would take it to five, which is half our team. Relatively equal to the half a team Korea was missing.

no, ur mistaken my friend.
nikki is preferred to madanchi.
if u notice in every game, it is madanchi who is subbed out but nikki remains inside.
nikki is preferred over madanchi. madanchi is not a starter.

their captain is not a legionanire any more. he was a legionnaire, not any more. he is back in korea now.
they missed park, lee, ahn, cha du ri, seol (that tall guy who plays in EPL and scored againt us in the first game..not sure if that is his name)

again, TM was missing 3 starters, kia, rezai and mirzapour.
kaabi deserves to be a starter based on fans opinion. but so does borhani or zandi or someone else. so wat, u gonna say TM missed all these starters?
im sure korea also has players who the fans think deserves to start, but at the end of the day, it is the coach who decides who are the starters..

mirzapour has improved under ghalenoi?? in wat, just few months and 4 or 5 games?? he suddenly has stopped fumbling with the ball? he has suddenly learnt how to shoot? ridiculous..its just that our opponents have been poor in offense to really test mirzapour and in just 4 or 5 games against such opponents, the chances of mirzapour making a mistake is almost 0.
mirzpaour improved over the 4 years time he played, not under 2 months and 5 games with ghalenoi!!!

[VivaItalia]

Mirzapour is much improved under GN and does not fumble and actually shows signs of confidence. At the current time I think he is our best goaltender, and should be used in important games, until a better alternative can be found.

I answered the rest of your question in my previous post.

Find a better coach then replace GN. TM should move forwards not backwards.

I agree with your last statement 100%. However, Mirzapour is the same as he was under Branko. Remember, Mirzapour was our best player in the WC with only one mistake. He was the best Iranian player in the Portugal game. remember?

My conclusion: lets just kick this Parvin's Noche out.

[The-Red]

khabalood jan, I dont have the time , nor the access to the ages of the korean players.
But what I do know is that I saw many new faces and the team looked quite young.
considering what I had read in recent weeks, I think it is safe to say this was certainly NOT korea's A side or full seniors.

oh for sure,,there was one that was playing its first national team game and a few had less than 4, 5 games national team game experience at this level.

[khabalood]

Yashar jaan, your totally wrong about Mirzapour. You have forgotten how he would make the stupidest mistake even against weak opponents. You obviously need to go back and watch some of his older matches under branko.

Its likely Korea has some players who the fans would like in the squad, but unless you know any of them by name it remains speculation.

I disagree with you on madanchi. I am yet to see Nikbakth play the rw when Madanchi is available to play the position. The only exception is Madanchi moving into more of an om role and Nikbakth taking lw, but Nikbakth cannot play the om as well as Madanchi so it is understandable. In addition, there are just too many possible reasons for substitutions depending on the situation to give it much weight in an argument.

[khabalood]

I agree with your last statement 100%. However, Mirzapour is the same as he was under Branko. Remember, Mirzapour was our best player in the WC with only one mistake. He was the best Iranian player in the Portugal game. remember?

My conclusion: lets just kick this Parvin's Noche out.

Kaebi was our best player throughout the world cup. Mirzapour play cost us the Mexico game.

Mirzapours recent performances prove he has improved as a player.

[VivaItalia]

Kaebi was our best player throughout the world cup. Mirzapour play cost us the Mexico game.

Mirzapours recent performances prove he has improved as a player.

How can you say that when there was absolutely no pressure on him during the recent games? You can't compare Mexico with Syria. can you? Just wait for a big game, ask Kaebi to back-pass the ball to him and see if he can kick it! I bet he can't.

Mirzapour has been a good goalie for a long time, it was people who unfairly criticized him. come on...even Dida and Casias make stupid mistakes. just watch howmany times Kahn fumbles the ball. does it make him a bad goalie?

but, lets move on. this dicussion is not about Mirzapour or Kaebi.

[KasraKhan]

i was really surprised to see nikhbakht in the lineup after his poor form in Perspolis in the last few weeks...I am not saying he played a real bad game,,,i guess he did average,,,but the fact GN insists on playing certain players,,,reminds me of Branko and his idea about no matter what some players must play.

GN doesnt only insist on playin Nibakht, but also Madanchi and Khatibi, 2 players that have shown time and time again that they are not TM material and not on form (I'll cut Madanchi a little slack here, but Khatibi 100%)

[yashar_fasihnia]

btw guys, did u notice that both goals were scored by former abu moslem players (enayati and badamaki) and both assissts were also done by ex-abu moslem players (teymourian and nikki)!!

looks like akbar "zede football" misaghian has something to be proud of after all