How dadkan jeopardized Iran's football

[Paradigm]

This is how dadkan wanted to hurt and jeopardize Iran's football , just to get back at his personal enemies !!!
Putting his own personal agenda way before te good of Iran !!

As if during his own tenure not enough screw ups and corruption ocurred !!
the scumbag almost got away with it !

Shameful.

[gol_kuchik]

If your house were on fire, would you try to find who started the fire?
That's how intelligent the original post is.

FIFA could have suspended Iran for a number of other reasons, like inadequte
security and protection for fans (remember Iran-Japan game) or the ban of
women from going to stadiums. Let's focus on the solution and how to move
forward.

[Mansoor]

not wanting to make it personal, I'd just say:
the past actions, words and stances DEFINITELY , shows who was on what side on which issue.

hehe ... WC isnt so far behind for ppl to forget.
nor is the witch-hunt of our players after the WC disaster
nor is illogical persistence on favoring a corrupt IFF, just to "save face" and "not accept the truth" (some would choose other words, though ).

indeed, we all have to apply it to ourselves.


As they say, "It takes a big man to admit to his wrongs/faults".
alas ...... !

hehe. We have read that zilion times. that is not what I meant. I was referring to your attachment to one of the players that goes above and beyound everything else ...

On the subjects you brought up, up to this day, I strongly and truely believe in what I did say (not what is being distorted) and still saying. It has nothing to do with "big man to adimt to his wrongs/ faults" .. that applies to your part ... I am just glad many things are so clear now and can be referred to as "look", "see for yourself", and so there is no need for useless discussions on proving one point or the other ... Of course some still have their head down and say "I don't see anything" ...

[Doctor DOOM]

GK jan, if you think I have the power to over-rule or order Fifa to do my wishes, and I am busy posting this, then you have over-estimated me.
So I am busying myself with such trivial stuff, while I can twist Blatter's arms or fifa's committees into doing my whim, ... then your statement can be true.
this is how intelligent this post was.



mansoor jan,
again, without getting personal, all I can tell you is:
when all the media releases this news, you cant do anything about it ... even if you go up and down, or slam urself against the walls, that stays true.
Now, you can either accept the truth, or go on denying.
that is everyone's right & prerogative.
The same rule applies to the stances ppl took on many issues that finally, REALITY PROVED IT WRONG.

as for the player, all I can say is:
there is a proverb, which you shd know well, about relation of shaghigheh and other acts.

[Mansoor]

mansoor jan,
again, without getting personal, all I can tell you is:
when all the media releases this news, you cant do anything about it ... even if you go up and down, or slam urself against the walls, that stays true.
Now, you can either accept the truth, or go on denying.
that is everyone's right & prerogative.
The same rule applies to the stances ppl took on many issues that finally, REALITY PROVED IT WRONG.

as for the player, all I can say is:
there is a proverb, which you shd know well, about relation of shaghigheh and other acts.

Exactly! I did not even get involved in this news of yours that is questionable either way and I don't know the truth into it. So, you explaining it to me is exactly the case of "shaghigheh".

You gave us the advice with your words of wisdome that "having the wrong ideals is bad enough.persistence on them, after they're proven wrong, is even worse." and I told you that is great, but it is even greater if you apply it to your self w/o getting into "shaghigheh" part. Then you started to go to serious "shaghigheh" issues like Branko and WC and how wrong we were because of two loses to forth place finisher and WC first seeded team (!?) and witch hunting players (in which case you were the FIRST person through out ALL the forums to bring up the differences between Karimi & Branko) (!?) and other shaghighe issues. I said no I meant players in which case I have to clarify going into "shaghighe" area:

You have selected Mobali for the longest time as Iran's savior! Not that I don't think Mobali is a good player but your extreme is the subject .... let's say your "ideal" to match your words ... he has been the subject of how great of play maker, how great of scorer, even in recent talks about strikers you brought him up as the player to consider !!!!!!!!!! (oh my god that was a master piece) Ghanlenoei was great until he dropped him ... Branko was evil because he didn't use him or even invite him and was getting orders from above .... Karimi was fat because he was playing Mobali's position .... Zandi gotto go since he is taking Mobali's spot .... Teymourian & Nekunam should not play as two defensive midfielers so Mobali can play .... missing the point that no matter who comes in as the coach and as the player for TM, IT IS THE SAME THING for Mobali ....

yeah like I said you were great when you adviced others "having the wrong ideals is bad enough." and let's say "persistence on them, after they're proven wrong, is even worse." only if we could hear ourselves .... I know I went to the shaghighe but I had no choice. I thought my little post was trivial to understand but I guess I had to explain myself.

cheers dadash, inshallah dorost misheh... we'll have our first class coach, we'lll play Iranian offensive style of football, IFF won't have incompetent boss and someone will run the show amazingly similar to big guns' federations, and Mobali will be Iran's captain .... soon inshallah, don't give up ....

[maij]

[Doctor DOOM]

hehehe

till now, I never saw any relation to all those posts on our left side's lacks, unnecessary need for 2 def mids against weak opposition, lack of performance in karimi, branko's destructive & dogmatic attitude towards certain players, .... to the case of mobaali !!

... that is until you "connected" them !!
heh!

I guess next, you will "connect" issues like GK-ing, wrong defensive tactics and personel, lack of flexibility in tactics, lack of guts and courage in strategies, .... to mobaali !!
hehe!
( let alone that for a long time, I have not said one word about mobaali ! ironic, no? )


secondly, the issue was the source of the news ( which at this moment seems to be proven ) and I answered.
but apparently, some of us LIKE to be stuck in a rut, in one mindset, and stick there as long as possible just becoz one feels "secure" in persisting in one's original ideology.

I have seen this in many places.
for some friends, once the difference is drawn between Mr. X and Mr. Y on a specific issue, X will "stay against" Y , no matter what the issue or discussion !
quite immature and unproductive.
But let me preach not.
to each, his own.

[maij]

What happened Doc ? Are you joining the 'Doomsday Scenario Club' ?( excuse the pun )

[Mansoor]

...I have seen this in many places.
for some friends, once the difference is drawn between Mr. X and Mr. Y on a specific issue, X will "stay against" Y , no matter what the issue or discussion !
quite immature and unproductive.
But let me preach not.
to each, his own.

Here we go, another "great advice". Again, it would be even greater if you could apply that to yourself. Who could forget about your obsession w/ Branko and ANYTHING and EVERYTHING wrong w/ him and blaming him and "staying against" him as "the X man against the Y man" "no matter what the issue or discussion was". Your state of the art work to somehow find him involved to be blamed for any issue in hand in our football is still around here ...

And the least you can do is to stay honest about Mobali. I am sure you can find some where something to even connect our GK problem to Mobali if there becomes a need. If you could find a way to connect Mobali to solve our lack of striker problem, that should be piece of cake for you. And please don't let me look into your posts to show how in every topic that I mentioned you brought Mobali up, unless you insist

don't worry about it man, I just wanted you to hear yourself in that little post, no need to go too far ...

cheers and enjoy these dooms days

[Doctor DOOM]

rather a sad, irrelevant reply that begs no reply !
sad attempt.

maybe you shd search the posts, as it is obvious you do have plenty of time at hand !

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majid jan,
surely you dont think this is some flimsy little bump that goes away by itself.
surely you understand the repercussions and consequences of this banning , if it persists for the olympic qualifiers and AC2007.
I hope you dont think it is as insignificant as a little fine slapped on a club!

( p.s.: they started a club for this? )

[Mansoor]

as it is obvious you do have plenty of time at hand !

Here we go another one that surely applies to yourself better than anyone else .... hehe, I wonder if there is any website or football forum that you don't post at ....

[Doctor DOOM]

I dont know which is more sad.
is it the IRRELEVANT attempt to make things "personal"
or having plenty of time, to ..... anyway.


but to answer you, in case u havent noticed, I just write ONE piece and post them in 2 or sometimes 3 sites.
sort of "saves my time" ( hint. hint )
quite the concept.


anyway, the thread's got derailed.
back to IFF and .....

[Martin-Reza]

Don't want to disturb you guys fighting , but Dadkan is an asshole anyway. I remember how he threatened not to send the U23 to Pusan Asian Games when he was head of Olympic committee. Officially he said the team wouldn't be ready (you know we won it later, so it was complete bs), but inofficially he wanted to pressure Farahani to get him out and become Pres himself.

Anyway, his era wasn't as bad as I had expected nor is he as bad as most of the other people involved in our high management, however, not that anyone could think Dadkan is a good guy

[Mansoor]

I dont know which is more sad.
is it the IRRELEVANT attempt to make things "personal"
or having plenty of time, to ..... anyway.


but to answer you, in case u havent noticed, I just write ONE piece and post them in 2 or sometimes 3 sites.
sort of "saves my time" ( hint. hint )
quite the concept.


anyway, the thread's got derailed.
back to IFF and .....

it's ok peyman jaan, you don't have to explain yourself. It is good that you spend lot of times in different forums and sites .... good for you .... I didn't complain, you did. more power to you and your free time ...

[Doctor DOOM]

Don't want to disturb you guys fighting , but Dadkan is an asshole anyway. I remember how he threatened not to send the U23 to Pusan Asian Games when he was head of Olympic committee. Officially he said the team wouldn't be ready (you know we won it later, so it was complete bs), but inofficially he wanted to pressure Farahani to get him out and become Pres himself.
Anyway, his era wasn't as bad as I had expected nor is he as bad as most of the other people involved in our high management, however, not that anyone could think Dadkan is a good guy

he could have been an angel, for all I care. ( which he definitely was NOT )
and his tenure could have been the best in Iran's history ( which was NOT by a long mile ).
his instigating & accelerating this situation by writing to fifa and complaining to them shd never be tolerated nor forgiven.




btw, I also remember how he used political leverage to pressurize farahani out of IFF and replace him.
How depsite not liking dadkan, farahani was forced to put him in charge.
and how he tried to gain popularity by bringing up crap like " busan's success was only due to his presence on the bench" and garbage like that !

oh, man, his tenure is littered with screw ups, failure and mismanagements, from the very beginning to the end.
but none of them compare to what he did when he was ousted, which is cause all this trouble with fifa.
just like an immature kid, when the ball is taken from him, and he runs to the head of school and complains of unfair play !!!