Alright, let's hear it then

[Doctor DOOM]

Rudbarian was totally useless. China's second goal could have been saved by just about anyone who had any athletic ability. Its time to give Talebloo a chance to show his true value on the big stage.

Hashemian was one of our worst players today. Again After having several opportunities he could not get more than one shot on goal. In addition he continues to get pushed to the wings by defensemen and shows no ability to beat his marker and get into the box for a scoring opportunity. Moreover, he does not pass to Enayati, leaving Enayati isolated and useless, since tm apparently decided not to pass to Enayati either. A phenomenon which is similar to the isolation Daei faced at the world cup. Hashemian is a failure as a cf and as a secondary striker as well since he does not pass to his cf Enayati.

Karimi was another useless player.

After a performance like that the aforementioned must be benched to send a message that more is needed from them.

The Teymourian/Nekounam duo fails to show any signs of improving tm. If we are to play two defensive midfielders one expect the defense to improve. It has not. In addition, this duo inhibits our offensive abilities. We should count our blessings that both will be ruled out of our next game. With any luck another of our midfielders will step up and put on a performance that will force the coaching staff to change their minds.

Mahdavikia is far to slow for a rw, and must be played in rb until his speed improves.

Enayati did alot of work today both offensively and defensively, unfortunately the team did not co-operate with him, and restricted their passing to Hashemian who wasted his opportunities.

bro, gol gofti.
I agree on all matters , except zandi.
well, zandi, as a defender.
altho he did improve, but ... :

I’m just watching the 2nd goal and I see that I forgot to remind ali jan and all those who want zandi as LB that this was part, zandi’s failure too, as he was 10-15 meters behind the Chinese winger who crossed the ball so freely, with no-1 putting any pressure on him so he could pick & choose his targets !!!!!

Also I blame kia who shd have come back to mark the runner ( scorer ) on his side, but he didn’t !

but on the rest of the issues, I agree.
VH shd sit out, so shd karimi ( unless he's used in offense ).
neku & ando may be out for this coming game, but as always, I must say only ONE is needed.
instead, a play maker can be brought in which helps the team in offense better than either one of these 2.


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but enough negative remarks from me.
positives:
KUDOS ... in kilo's ... nay, in TONS , to Komasi to shape our physically suspect team into a team that gets even stronger in the second halves of such crappy conditions.

Kudos to the team and staff for having the will and determination to actually climb out of defeat and once win and another time get not one goal, but 2 goals back to draw.
I'm pretty sure if the game had gone on for another 10 minutes, we'd have scored the third too

a little bit of Kudos to GN for actually having enough sense and guts to change karimi at half time.
a little bit, becoz he shd have had more sense to start , once again, with both ando & neku ! how many games shd we see to finally accept this is a dumb combo and it just doesnt help the team ???
who will order "chelo" with "chelo" in a chelo-kababi?
we always order chelo and KABAB, coz each one serves a different purpose.
why cant GN understand such a simple fact?

we're constantly having chelo with chelo ! no wonder the food tastes so dry and devoid of flavor or taste !
once we add the kabab ( playmaker ) , THEN we have a feast.

[The-Red]

baba hey m'igan support GN support Gn,,,he is the best we got, so let's just shut up...i mean people this team is slow, defense is unorganized and lost at times, zandi is being wasted as left defender, enayat is playing out of position as a left attacker, va khodeh aghay GN is too busy throwing things at the people and sits on the stands....I am not at all pissed that we tied china, I am pissed that such a talented team has been given to such a young and inexperience coach and then we also got aghay nasser ibrahimi who thinks this is kandomsazi ghazvin team and just shouts and walks up and down the field doing nothing!

[Hajagha]

I don't know what you guys want? Last time I checked Brazil was far from Iran.

I watched a decent, attacking football. Of course I am talking as "ASIAN" level. Chinese player were tall, good on the air, good control on the ball, fast and knowing each other's position. So did we.

If you are not happy, go to the counter and ask for your money back.

[Paradigm]

For the Malaysia match, GN should consider starting Talebloo in the goal, A.H. Sadeghi as LB and Shojaie in the midfield. Let some of the usual 11 have a chance to rest unless things don't go as desired during the game... in which case he should sub them in. I think Sadeghi as LB is a more natural option than Zandi who is most suited to play in the opponent's half. Also let Rajabzadeh play as forward next to Hashemian. He did well in the recent West Asian games.

[Doctor DOOM]

ando's form is quite worrying.

he is clearly below par and not performing his usual level.
what is wrong? I dont know.
but I know this:
he tries too much and suddenly thinks he's karimi or shojayi ( whose ball control is miles ahead of ando ), and tries to dribble ppl or do something fancy !

agha jan.
we didnt put u there to do fancy stuff.
you just do what u'r good at: destroying opponents' moves.
that's it.
you do that properly, baghiyash peesh-keshet.

he loses the ball with alarming regularity !
yes, he may have given a beautiful pass last game. but that is not his usual situation and pass.
either something has gone to his head, or he really thinks he's the playmaker of the team and shd do such stuff !!
basseh baba.
Aasaab nazashti, pesar, baraye ma !

GN ought to set him right : do NOT try to dribble or move too much with the ball.
just pass.
that's all u gotta do.

[zzgloo]

China's game against us, reminded me of our game against mexico during last year WC........in which, Branko studied mexico alot, and knew we were weaker than them, so he devised a plan based on gaps in mexican system...and what happened was mexicans were surprized during the first half, but at the half time, they figured us out, and thier talented group took over,and when our bluff was cut, we did not have anythingels to offer,so mexico won...............
same with china, they tried hard,and set a plan to stop our right side,and start fast,and cut us in surprize and have early goal.....but, once we figured them out,their plan was no longer good, and they had to rely on thier own talent....which they " KAM AVORDAND ".........
as simple as that...........China, actualy learned that plan from uzbaks, but frankly, uzbaks did it better...............

[Ali Chicago]

baba hey m'igan support GN support Gn,,,he is the best we got, so let's just shut up...i mean people this team is slow, defense is unorganized and lost at times, zandi is being wasted as left defender, enayat is playing out of position as a left attacker, va khodeh aghay GN is too busy throwing things at the people and sits on the stands....I am not at all pissed that we tied china, I am pissed that such a talented team has been given to such a young and inexperience coach and then we also got aghay nasser ibrahimi who thinks this is kandomsazi ghazvin team and just shouts and walks up and down the field doing nothing!

Armin what do you want? Iran beats China 10-0? I don't expect from little kids who are getting brain washed by like of Ala. But someone like You. Do you think Only Iranians can play football? Chian is laying down and let us walk all over them?

Throwing people at us? For heavn sake this was the same god damn Branko team. The only difference was Enayati for Daie. A team who is dead, comes back alive. In the coaches half Karimi is being subbed. Does Branko, Shahrookhi or even god damn Jalali has the balls to do that? Honestly tell me.

You know what we deserve what we get. We deserve Branko and Daie to play. And Karimi only be subbed if he is getting into a quarrel with the coach.

You know what. We really deserve Branko. I just had enough of this.

Bunch of kids and even so called knowledgable people have like god damn 10 posts about Enayati in less than 5 minutes of second half. Kazemian didn't do shit today. Hashemian losing the same number of balls. But we feed on hate. Daie was there before to be traget of the hate and now he is gone, bring on Enayati and Khatibi.

I am just fed up and will go and watch the games on tv and internet. Was expecting much much more from F+ forum.

For all practical purposes don't support the guy, post another 100 thread against him. Ala is leadign the charge. Go brother.

[Ali Chicago]

I don't know what you guys want? Last time I checked Brazil was far from Iran.

Ghorboone Dahanet. Vaghenn ke. Because we are Iranian, it doesn' mean teams lay down and take 10 gaoles from us.

Look Korea loosing to Bahrain. Aussie are on teh verge of elimination. Japan isn't playing anything to write home about. With all the money and organizaiton and forignn coach and blah blah. Our team kills China after 30th minute of the game.

We really deserve a charlatan coach (who of course must be a forigner).

[khabalood]

Bunch of kids and even so called knowledgable people have like god damn 10 posts about Enayati in less than 5 minutes of second half. Kazemian didn't do shit today. Hashemian losing the same number of balls. But we feed on hate. Daie was there before to be traget of the hate and now he is gone, bring on Enayati and Khatibi.

well said, although I would argue Hashemian lost more balls.

[Ali Chicago]

Some one tell me what did Kaabi did today? Wasn't he the one who everyone was saying will be our survivor. For that matter since when a single player can ever change the game.

For those who follow the threads. I specifically talked about balls over the head of the Kaabi, read my posts when Mansoor suggested Kaabi to play in TM as forward or right defense. Watch the second goal by china. Kaabi is running toward the ball carrier across teh field. Ball is crossed over his head and rest is history. Did anyone mention this? Did anyone mentions the when Hashemian gets teh ball, put his head down and dribbles until he looses the ball. Did anyone mention Why Nekoo has to give the sloppy foul that lead to the first goal. No, but blame the whole god damn thing on Enayati, on GN. Funniest thing is, team is fighting to the last minute and is playing nice, but you read these posts and as if, team is in crisis. What a shame!!!

Where is Aussie? where is Korea? Japan might not even make it if they don't win today against Vietnam, Our team is easily through and read these posts. What a poetic justice.

Whoever was lucky enough watched today's Brazil vs. Argentina? Did you see Lyonel Messie? He is the same genious right? Argentia was the same team who was clearly the favorite the cup. What happened? 3-0 for Brazil. This is soccer. It is much mjuch more than one player and we are such and such.

[The-Red]

Armin what do you want? Iran beats China 10-0? I don't expect from little kids who are getting brain washed by like of Ala. But someone like You. Do you think Only Iranians can play football? Chian is laying down and let us walk all over them?
Throwing people at us? For heavn sake this was the same god damn Branko team. The only difference was Enayati for Daie. A team who is dead, comes back alive. In the coaches half Karimi is being subbed. Does Branko, Shahrookhi or even god damn Jalali has the balls to do that? Honestly tell me.
You know what we deserve what we get. We deserve Branko and Daie to play. And Karimi only be subbed if he is getting into a quarrel with the coach.
You know what. We really deserve Branko. I just had enough of this.
Bunch of kids and even so called knowledgable people have like god damn 10 posts about Enayati in less than 5 minutes of second half. Kazemian didn't do shit today. Hashemian losing the same number of balls. But we feed on hate. Daie was there before to be traget of the hate and now he is gone, bring on Enayati and Khatibi.
I am just fed up and will go and watch the games on tv and internet. Was expecting much much more from F+ forum.
For all practical purposes don't support the guy, post another 100 thread against him. Ala is leadign the charge. Go brother.

Ali jan it is a coach's job to know his team well enough and put them on the field accordingy...I couldn't careless about daie or branko at this point...this is a different time and a different tournament...read this article btw, even though I don't agree with every single point, there is some truth to it....i don't expect us to beat china 10-0, na, I don't, those days are long over, but I want to see a team that with all these so called names can go into the field and put fear in the oppnents eyes from min 1, not after falling behind and being lost for 45 min. expectations are high, but GN is not the right man for the job, I have said that from day 1 and say it again.

هرچه مى خواهيد بگوييد، ما مى گوييم چشم!



خسته نباشيد اميرخان! راستى از شما بزرگتر هم هست؟ از شما قويتر چطور؟ از شما كاردرست تر هم هست؟ شما كه آنقدر كارتان درست است كه سرنوشت فوتبال كشور را به تنهايى در دست گرفته ايد... ماشاالله آنقدر زورتان هم زياد است كه نياز به هيچ كمكى هم نداريد. يك لشكر مشاور و نديم و حكيم و جان نثار به دنبال خودتان راه انداخته ايد اما نه براى مشاوره دادن كه براى بله گفتن. بس كه اطلاعاتتان زياد است، بس كه زورتان زياد است، بس كه كارتان درست است و بس كه حرفه اى هستيد.ماشاالله آنقدر هم بزرگ هستيد كه كسى جرأت نمى كند به شما بگويد بالاى چشمتان ابرو است. حرف كه بزنيم ناراحت مى شويد، رنگتان قرمز مى شود، اين پره هاى دماغتان چنان مى لرزد كه آدم مى ترسد! خلاصه برزخى مى شويد اساسى، بعد آتشخشمتان،تر و خشك را با هم مى سوزاند! روى همين حساب تصميم گرفته ايم هر حرفى كه بزنيد، بگوييم چشم! بگوييد از تيم ملى حمايت كنيد، بگوييم چشم! بگوييد انتقاد نكنيد، بگوييم چشم. بگوييد من هركس را كه خواستم خط بزنم، شما هم سكوت كنيد، بگوييم چشم. بگوييد دلم مى خواهد تنها دفاع چپ تيم را خط بزنم و يك هافبك- مهاجم را براى اولين بار در زندگى اش در پست دفاع چپ مورد استفاده قرار بدهم، شما هم حرفى نزنيد، بگوييم چشم! بگوييد دلم مى خواهد بهترين هافبك طراح ليگ را از تيم خط بزنم، شما هم جيكتان درنيايد، بگوييم چشم! بگوييد دوست دارم بهترين دروازه بان ليگ را بيرون بگذارم و از او ضعيف تر را در تركيب اصلى قرار دهم و به هيچ كس هم ربطى ندارد، ما هم بگوييم چشم.بگوييد دوست دارم ۲ مهاجم كلاسيك را به عنوان گوش لب خط در تركيب اصلى قرار بدهم تا ما هم بگوييم خواهش مى شود! ميل، ميل مبارك است.بگوييد دلتان مى خواهد بازيكن كليدى تيم را كه براى تيم ملى گل زد و كمك كرد تا بازى اول را ببريم را در تركيب قرار ندهيد تا ما هم لبخند بزنيم و بگوييم هرچه شما بخواهيد. بگوييد دلتان مى خواهد همان بازيكنى را وارد زمين كنيد كه عليه تيم ملى و كادرفنى مصاحبه كرده و انضباطى تيمى را زير سؤال برده تا ما هم سكوت كنيم و خودمان را به آن راه بزنيم. اصلاً بگوييد دلتان مى خواهد به گونه اى بازى كنيد كه اول گل بخوريد و بعد نفرات گلزن را وارد بازى كنيد كه وقتى گل زدند تعويض طلايى لقب بگيرند. اميرخان... هرجور كه دوست داريد و ميل مبارك مى كشد عمل كنيد، صداى ما هم درنمى آيد. مى ترسيم انتقاد كنيم و عصبانى شويد و بعد افشايمان كنيد، مگر دست هاى پشت پرده اى در كار نبود كه حال شما را بگيرد و بعد شما پيشدستى كرديد و افشايشان كرديد؟! شايد بعداً ما را هم افشا كرديد... از كجا معلوم؟!
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اميرخان همه رقمه با شما هستيم... عنايتى در زمين هيچ كارى نكند هم انتقاد نمى كنيم. رودباريان روى تك تك گل هايى كه مى خورد هم مقصر باشد صدايمان درنمى آيد. مى ترسيم تمركز شما به هم بخورد و تيم قهرمان نشود و بعد كاسه كوزه ها سر ما بشكند.فقط يك كارى نكنيد كه همه بگويند: خدا پدر برانكو را بيامرزد

[Ali Chicago]

Ali jan it is a coach's job to know his team well enough and put them on the field accordingy...I couldn't careless about daie or branko at this point...this is a different time and a different tournament...read this article btw, even though I don't agree with every single point, there is some truth to it....i don't expect us to beat china 10-0, na, I don't, those days are long over, but I want to see a team that with all these so called names can go into the field and put fear in the oppnents eyes from min 1, not after falling behind and being lost for 45 min. expectations are high, but GN is not the right man for the job, I have said that from day 1 and say it again.
هرچه مى خواهيد بگوييد، ما مى گوييم چشم!
خسته نباشيد اميرخان! راستى از شما بزرگتر هم هست؟ از شما قويتر چطور؟ از شما كاردرست تر هم هست؟ شما كه آنقدر كارتان درست است كه سرنوشت فوتبال كشور را به تنهايى در دست گرفته ايد... ماشاالله آنقدر زورتان هم زياد است كه نياز به هيچ كمكى هم نداريد. يك لشكر مشاور و نديم و حكيم و جان نثار به دنبال خودتان راه انداخته ايد اما نه براى مشاوره دادن كه براى بله گفتن. بس كه اطلاعاتتان زياد است، بس كه زورتان زياد است، بس كه كارتان درست است و بس كه حرفه اى هستيد.ماشاالله آنقدر هم بزرگ هستيد كه كسى جرأت نمى كند به شما بگويد بالاى چشمتان ابرو است. حرف كه بزنيم ناراحت مى شويد، رنگتان قرمز مى شود، اين پره هاى دماغتان چنان مى لرزد كه آدم مى ترسد! خلاصه برزخى مى شويد اساسى، بعد آتشخشمتان،تر و خشك را با هم مى سوزاند! روى همين حساب تصميم گرفته ايم هر حرفى كه بزنيد، بگوييم چشم! بگوييد از تيم ملى حمايت كنيد، بگوييم چشم! بگوييد انتقاد نكنيد، بگوييم چشم. بگوييد من هركس را كه خواستم خط بزنم، شما هم سكوت كنيد، بگوييم چشم. بگوييد دلم مى خواهد تنها دفاع چپ تيم را خط بزنم و يك هافبك- مهاجم را براى اولين بار در زندگى اش در پست دفاع چپ مورد استفاده قرار بدهم، شما هم حرفى نزنيد، بگوييم چشم! بگوييد دلم مى خواهد بهترين هافبك طراح ليگ را از تيم خط بزنم، شما هم جيكتان درنيايد، بگوييم چشم! بگوييد دوست دارم بهترين دروازه بان ليگ را بيرون بگذارم و از او ضعيف تر را در تركيب اصلى قرار دهم و به هيچ كس هم ربطى ندارد، ما هم بگوييم چشم.بگوييد دوست دارم ۲ مهاجم كلاسيك را به عنوان گوش لب خط در تركيب اصلى قرار بدهم تا ما هم بگوييم خواهش مى شود! ميل، ميل مبارك است.بگوييد دلتان مى خواهد بازيكن كليدى تيم را كه براى تيم ملى گل زد و كمك كرد تا بازى اول را ببريم را در تركيب قرار ندهيد تا ما هم لبخند بزنيم و بگوييم هرچه شما بخواهيد. بگوييد دلتان مى خواهد همان بازيكنى را وارد زمين كنيد كه عليه تيم ملى و كادرفنى مصاحبه كرده و انضباطى تيمى را زير سؤال برده تا ما هم سكوت كنيم و خودمان را به آن راه بزنيم. اصلاً بگوييد دلتان مى خواهد به گونه اى بازى كنيد كه اول گل بخوريد و بعد نفرات گلزن را وارد بازى كنيد كه وقتى گل زدند تعويض طلايى لقب بگيرند. اميرخان... هرجور كه دوست داريد و ميل مبارك مى كشد عمل كنيد، صداى ما هم درنمى آيد. مى ترسيم انتقاد كنيم و عصبانى شويد و بعد افشايمان كنيد، مگر دست هاى پشت پرده اى در كار نبود كه حال شما را بگيرد و بعد شما پيشدستى كرديد و افشايشان كرديد؟! شايد بعداً ما را هم افشا كرديد... از كجا معلوم؟!
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اميرخان همه رقمه با شما هستيم... عنايتى در زمين هيچ كارى نكند هم انتقاد نمى كنيم. رودباريان روى تك تك گل هايى كه مى خورد هم مقصر باشد صدايمان درنمى آيد. مى ترسيم تمركز شما به هم بخورد و تيم قهرمان نشود و بعد كاسه كوزه ها سر ما بشكند.فقط يك كارى نكنيد كه همه بگويند: خدا پدر برانكو را بيامرزد

So if Roudbarian has a bad day, it is GN's fault? No forward in Iran has the rigth to loose teh ball right. If Hashemian screws up it is ok because he plays in Hanoofer a no name team in GErmany. But if Enayati does. Oh vabayla. What did Hashemin do today, excpet his one header. Why no one has the ball to say anything? becuase he plays in Budesliga. Kill Enayati for all i care, fire GN for all I care. This is the rah to Torkettan.

Pretty sad.

[The-Red]

So if Roudbarian has a bad day, it is GN's fault? No forward in Iran has the rigth to loose teh ball right. If Hashemian screws up it is ok because he plays in Hanoofer a no name team in GErmany. But if Enayati does. Oh vabayla. What did Hashemin do today, excpet his one header. Why no one has the ball to say anything? becuase he plays in Budesliga. Kill Enayati for all i care, fire GN for all I care. This is the rah to Torkettan.
Pretty sad.

actaully Hashemian played a very good game, maybe I watched a different game today, but he ran his ass of and was involved in every attack,,,even had to come back and collect balls that middlefilders were failing to get up there...i did not say why enayati is playing, i believe he is a good striker, but a striker as a center forward, zandi is a left middlefielder, not a defender,,,,,you see Ali jan, there are things that is under the coache's control, and some of his decisions has certianly been questionable....by people who know the game, forget about me or the rest of the so called kids.

as for roudbarian, i have no problem with him or his selection as there are no better at the moment, talebloo is pretty much at the same level...but if nosrati can play left back and move zandi to middlefield, why not?

[Nokhodi]

I don't agree with all the criticism of Hashemian. Hashemian is the type of forward who must have balls crossed into the box for him or he has to be running onto a ball full speed facing the net. He is not the type of forward who can take the ball facing his own side, turn, dribble, create space and shoot.
In this games he is almost being used as some sort of playmaker in my opinion because he must go so far back to receive.

He is a workhorse and forwards like him need quick, short touches to score. We shouldn't be expecting Maradona type goals from him. If he is used correctly (ie Iran-Japan game) he will be great.

[Ali Chicago]

actaully Hashemian played a very good game, maybe I watched a different game today, but he ran his ass of and was involved in every attack,,,even had to come back and collect balls that middlefilders were failing to get up there...i did not say why enayati is playing, i believe he is a good striker, but a striker as a center forward, zandi is a left middlefielder, not a defender,,,,,you see Ali jan, there are things that is under the coache's control, and some of his decisions has certianly been questionable....by people who know the game, forget about me or the rest of the so called kids.
as for roudbarian, i have no problem with him or his selection as there are no better at the moment, talebloo is pretty much at the same level...but if nosrati can play left back and move zandi to middlefield, why not?

Ran his ass off and doing the duty that is given to him are two different things. Didn't Kaabi ran his ass off. But where the heck he was on China's second gaol. It is not about running (although it is appreciated) but being effective is something else. Can you recall a single pass from Hashemian around the 18 yard box? On that on on one that he tried to dribble over the chineese defnder see where Enayati is. Did he try to make a pass?