Why Iran will not make it to final

[yashar_fasihnia]

You have eyes. Watch the game highligth yourself. China dominated the first?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B92_vW-uSS8
This is the highlights of the game on youtube. There is a clock on the screen. You watch and tell me if China dominated the game. I dont' need AbuDhabi sport to tell me what happend. I have eyes.
These are chinnes Chances.
2nd mintue over head shot of phan
5th mintues their goal (free kick)
31 st another free kick who is dangerous (free kick)
33 minute their second gaol
The second goal was scored against the flow of the game. From 10the to 30th minutes game was kind of even handed.
Iran's opportunity in the first half;
35th minute : Watch Hashemian hearder in the first half.
42:07 Watch another cross that three Iranians are tangled up ball gets to Hashemain and ball is rollign across the chineese goal mouth.
42:40 Zandi pass to Hashemain who passes back to Kia, Kia has Ando wide open next to him but he opted to shoot.
45: Free kick and goal for Iran.
This is not what I am seeing. Video is there. So AbuDhabi sport (if they said that) Ghalat kard yek cheezeh deegheh ham roosh khoord. If they siad first half was for china.
Please dont' play victim. I don't need a yes man. I have always respected you for your intelligence and knowledge. I don't want a "YES MAN" I want a fair man. You hate GN and want to bash him be my guest. You are not the only one. Just know that what is happenign right now will be the precedence for the next coach who come after GN.

DO U HAVE EYES? HOW MANY DIFFERENT GAME REPORTS DID U READ? DO U KNOW HOW MANY OF THEM SAID CHINA DOMINATED IRAN FOR THE FIRST HALF??
SHOULD I BRING SOURCES FROM ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF NEWS AGENCIES TO PROVE THIS??
HOW MANY PEOPLE APPROVE UR CLAIM OF CHINA DOMINATED ONLY THE FIRST 10 MINUTES?
just because u see it this way, doesnt necessarily mean it has to be this way or others should see it the same way too.

again, i repeat, all ur claims are based on assumptions. i dont hate ghalenoi, i support him, i disapprove ala's campaign against ghalenoi and i have explicitly mentioned it in the football forum. SO U DONT PLAY VICTIM HERE.
but at the same time, i dont shy back to point out problems i feel ghalenoi has in the team, problems that critiques from all countries, his own suporters admit. Again, i say for the third time, read heshmat mohajerani's interview.
accept that team melli defense line and GK is weak and not championship material and move on. Stop jumping on people everytime they say something agianst ghalenoi.

[yashar_fasihnia]

Becaue many people see this the time for Tasveeyeh Hesab now.

assumptions again.

motasefam...

[yashar_fasihnia]

Subbing Karimi in Mexico match was pure PS stupid. I watched the game again a few days ago. He was the most influential player of the pitch at the time. He brought Madanchi instead who touched the ball maybe 1 or 2 times with no outcome.
Again in Portugal game, he was good (not as good as mexico though) when Branko subbed the guy out. Branko simply ruined the guy. Oh, I watched the game 2 nights ago again.
So, please don't compare karimi's sub at the time with this time. Thanks.

branko ruined karimi????
so wat karimi is today is because of branko?????

and to me, i dont think karimi was that influential in either game.
in the portugal game, he absolutely did nothing except win a tackle from cristian ronaldo in one scene only.
against mexico, he wasnt influential either. his only positive impact was the cross in the beginning of the game which hashemian headed it but sanchez saved it.

every dribble karimi tried was lost, everytime he was directly challeneged by marquez, he lost. karimi did nothing in both games and all the media and critiques admitted it as well.

besides, we are talking about the guts of pulling out karimi here, which branko showed twice on the highest level of international football. so did ghalenoi. yet only when ghalenoi does it, some people think its a brave thing to do.

ur welcome

[Ali Chicago]

DO U HAVE EYES? HOW MANY DIFFERENT GAME REPORTS DID U READ? DO U KNOW HOW MANY OF THEM SAID CHINA DOMINATED IRAN FOR THE FIRST HALF??
SHOULD I BRING SOURCES FROM ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF NEWS AGENCIES TO PROVE THIS??
HOW MANY PEOPLE APPROVE UR CLAIM OF CHINA DOMINATED ONLY THE FIRST 10 MINUTES?
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Dadash, screw me or AbuDhabi there is the link on TV. Watch with your own eyes. I am stupid, GN's agent whatever you say, Biased. Watch the highlights on the youtube. Picture isn't lying? Is it?

I even listed you the highlights. I didn't do the highlight. Some jack did it and put it there. So, it has nothing to do with I see it certain way.!!!!

See that is your problem. You always think whoever is a forigner knows better than you. Branko must be better becuase he isn't Iranian. AbuDhabi sport commentator (mind you comentator) who usually are teh guys who can't get a coaching job, knows better.

The saddest part is that you have so much potential and somewhat being brainwashed by this put down whatever Iranian and don't trust yourself.
Anyhow, let's just agree to disagree.

[Ali Chicago]

branko ruined karimi????
so wat karimi is today is because of branko?????
and to me, i dont think karimi was that influential in either game.
in the portugal game, he absolutely did nothing except win a tackle from cristian ronaldo in one scene only.
against mexico, he wasnt influential either. his only positive impact was the cross in the beginning of the game which hashemian headed it but sanchez saved it.
every dribble karimi tried was lost, everytime he was directly challeneged by marquez, he lost. karimi did nothing in both games and all the media and critiques admitted it as well.
besides, we are talking about the guts of pulling out karimi here, which branko showed twice on the highest level of international football. so did ghalenoi. yet only when ghalenoi does it, some people think its a brave thing to do.
ur welcome

The whole god damn team was playing scared shit. What can you expect from a team like that? Karimi "yek taneh" dribble the whole god damn Portugal team?

[yashar_fasihnia]

Dadash, screw me or AbuDhabi there is the link on TV. Watch with your own eyes. I am stupid, GN's agent whatever you say, Biased. Watch the highlights on the youtube. Picture isn't lying? Is it?
See that is your problem. You always think whoever is a forigner knows better than you. Branko must be better becuase he isn't Iranian. AbuDhabi sport commentator (mind you comentator) who usually are teh guys who can't get a coaching job, knows better.
The saddest part is that you have so much potential and somewhat being brainwashed by this put down whatever Iranian and don't trust yourself.
Anyhow, let's just agree to disagree.

again, assumptions.

man bemiram bekham fekr konam araba superior be ma hastan chun kharejian.
this is ur problem, u assume many things, this is one of them.

another thing u assume is that abudhabi sports "COMMENTATOR" like u mentioned when u havent even watched the program, but u talk with so much certainity thats its only a commentator. wat can i say??
I REPEAT, I WATCHED THE GAME LIVE ON IRIB2 IN A COFFEE SHOP DURING MY LUNCH BREAK (DURING WORK HOURS). I WENT HOME, I WATCHED AN ANALYSIS OF THE GAME ON ABUDHABI & DUBAI SPORTS CHANNEL HOURS AFTER THE GAME USING NEUTRAL CRITIQUES AND THEY ALSO SAID CHINA DOMINATED THE FIRST HALF. AT NIGHT BEFORE SLEEP, I ONCE AGAIN WATCHED THE REPLY ON JAZEERA SPORTS CHANNEL.

ali agha, first half, until the 40th minute, iran did nothing except one header by hashemian. they couldnt string 2 passes together, china handled the game so well, how many ever chances they had (highlights show only chances).
iran only "played football" in the last 5 minutes of the first half.

[yashar_fasihnia]

The whole god damn team was playing scared shit. What can you expect from a team like that? Karimi "yek taneh" dribble the whole god damn Portugal team?

no, i expect karimi to dribble past 1 or 2 players like he used to do, ONCE.
he didnt.

dont blame the team for karimis poor performance.

[Doctor DOOM]

( since everyone is pushing for their own "agenda". here's mine )

haha !

so basically we are coming back to what I have been saying for the past 4 years:
karimi is over-rated and he shd be subbed as soon as he shows his lazy nature. no matter if it is at min 10 of the game.

all the guy has to show for these years is one tournament ( AC04 ) and nothing more !
.... NOTHING MORE !!

till when are we going to put him on a pedestal and worship his lazy arse?
no wonder he thinks he's above the team !
Give me a Daei anyday, who will always accept he's lesser than the team , the jersey and the flag.

there.
that's my agenda.

[Hajagha]

branko ruined karimi????
so wat karimi is today is because of branko?????
and to me, i dont think karimi was that influential in either game.

He ruined the guy at the time. Who said this Karimi is the outcome of that act? I didn't.

You and I have different views of the game analysis. Karimi, in my view, was one of the better players in our team, most precise, in Mexico game with his run, his defense, his passes, his visions, his opening up to the other players...... and in summary in his game. .... I don't see a game in a few dribbles and also I don't see a game through any body's eyes even they are called "critics". I have eyes on my own, I watched and played this game more than 4 decades and understand the game to have my own conclusion.

[yashar_fasihnia]

He ruined the guy at the time. Who said this Karimi is the outcome of the act? I didn't.

thankyou for the clarification, cos u didnt mention he ruined the guy at that time either.

You and I have different views of the game analysis. Karimi, in my view, was one of the better players in our team, most precise, in Mexico game with his run, his defense, his passes, his visions, his opening up to the other players...... and in summary in his game. .... I don't see a game in a few dribbles and also I don't see a game through any body's eyes even they are called "critics". I have eyes on my own, I watched and played this game more than 4 decades and understand the game to have my own conclusion.

neither do i see only through a few dribbles, thats why i think kaabi, nekounam and teymourian were our most influential players.

but anywayz, thanx for the input!

[Hajagha]

( since everyone is pushing for their own "agenda". here's mine )

haha !

so basically we are coming back to what I have been saying for the past 4 years:
karimi is over-rated and he shd be subbed as soon as he shows his lazy nature. no matter if it is at min 10 of the game.
that's my agenda.

That's not working bro. You mislead people. You have already confessed that you were wrong about Karimi when he shined in Bayern. Don't make a wrong assumption and act like a god knowing every thing years back.

Karimi is an exceptional player, however we need to treat him only slightly different than the others, not completely. If his game is on, even Germany must afraid of us (remember which game I am talking about?). So, Karimi is Karimi and he must have a spot in TM as long as he can play effectively. Don't miss-read please, I said in TM and not 11 starters.

[Ali Chicago]

He ruined the guy at the time. Who said this Karimi is the outcome of that act? I didn't.
You and I have different views of the game analysis. Karimi, in my view, was one of the better players in our team, most precise, in Mexico game with his run, his defense, his passes, his visions, his opening up to the other players...... and in summary in his game. .... I don't see a game in a few dribbles and also I don't see a game through any body's eyes even they are called "critics". I have eyes on my own, I watched and played this game more than 4 decades and understand the game to have my own conclusion.

Hagi joon damet gharm. Kash eenja boodi ta dahanet roo beboosam "not that way, don't freak out dadash".

[Ali Chicago]

That's not working bro. You mislead people. You have already confessed that you were wrong about Karimi when he shined in Bayern. Don't make a wrong assumption and act like a god knowing every thing years back.
Karimi is an exceptional player, however we need to treat him only slightly different than the others, not completely. If his game is on, even Germany must afraid of us (remember which game I am talking about?). So, Karimi is Karimi and he must have a spot in TM as long as he can play effectively. Don't miss-read please, I said in TM and not 11 starters.

Not to mention how he played against Germany, even in Ireland. A player has to have the stuff technique, intelligence, passing, shooting, injury free all that. But assuming he has all of that, the difference between a succesful player and a mediocare player is in two factors:
Motivation
Effort

Karimis seesm to be low in both of these. That is all it seems to be missing in his repretoire.

[perspolees]

what we want and reality is two things. Korea and Japan and sag va gorbeh want it all too. Every team is impronving. We still thnk every Asian team needs to be beaten 10-0 That is just a daydream.
Questioning the man is one thing, nagging is one thing else. Every one like a parrot repeats Zaandi is not LB. Why? If not him who to play against him? Every body crticize Enayati, but kisses Kaabi's ass why? Is thsi questioing? No it is personality terror. Oh hell kick GN out who cares anymore. Bring another vitch or anyone you want. With this atmosphere you bring Cappeloo in Iran he won't be succesful. The same way Verbeek isn't in Korea or Arnold in Aussie isn't or Ooseem hasn't doen anything to write home about.
We have two problems.
First we are unrealistic
As soon as we are dealing with Iranians the parameters change. Anything he does must be crap.
In the coaches half twice team comes back and does well. What teh cocah gets? Jack.

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whoever that says coach gets jack is just blinded period!
he has done fine, tho I personally feel the difference this time around is our stamina and physical capability to run the other teams..but still coach gets the nod,

whoever that is dreaming about beating other teams 10-0 has a Colo-Cephalic fistula thats nonesense

but to ignore that we have a major hole in defense now that is ignorance!

[perspolees]

persi jan, the thing is we DO have better players to bolster the defense.

the problem is GN is not getting off satan's donkey !

when we can use either aghili or sadeghi on the left, and move zandi up.
this simple move has tons of benefits for the team.
the defense will bo far more solid as proper "defenders" are employed there who will do a far better job of defending than zandi.
also, the left wing will be more active as we'd have a midfielder who can help the team in both offense & defense better. ( now, we dont have a left wing at all !!! )
another plus is having a good wing means the opponents will not come forward all that much anymore and the defenders sit deeper into their halves as they fear our offense. which means even LESS pressure on our defense.

on the right side, I think having kia and kaabi will do. altho' nosrati can fill in for cases when we need total defending.

so we DO have the right tools to get it right. the only thing is GN shd exercise a bit more sense and logic in setting the team.

You may be right but you may end up eating your words when aghilis inexperience spits up some goals in the back of our own net...who knows, overall I think the chosen players are not only poor defenders but we have a major flaw in our system and what the players understanding of the defensive plan is!