Olerum's issue & "Hired Gun" approach

[RaginG Inferno]

yes, BIG yes.................but not more intelegent, more balanced !!!!
as lack of sex, and lack of relation with the opposite sex, creates,psycological problems.,and unrealistic view of the world.............

This is almost Freudian, and I disagree.

Maybe you are aware that sigheh permits(under certain obligations) sexual relations between two Muslims.

Also you say that: "European players mostly have collage degree, had had numerouse girlfrinds, speak two to three languages, and had been exposed to media, and high life for so long,and lived in more civilized culture..................."
I don't think having numerous girlfriends, being exposed to media and the high life makes someone civilized.

In fact, I think the culture we have in our nation is the real definition of civilisation, where family is important(this is crucial in the mental development of an individual)...But, this is irrelevant. I believe it has no role in the development of a player.

There are people like Wayne Rooney, who is basically a street thug, and is one of the best players in the world. Many, many soccer players are from desperately poor backgrounds. In fact, I see this as a motivating factor for many players.

Gonna have to disagree with you on that one mate...

[Doctor DOOM]

yes, BIG yes.................but not more intelegent, more balanced !!!!
as lack of sex, and lack of relation with the opposite sex, creates,psycological problems.,and unrealistic view of the world.............

een digeh az oonha bood-haaaaa, bahram jan.
LOOL

granted, having clean and constructive sexual relations helps develop a person. but I think our players' problems run waaaayyyy deeper than their sexual under- or mal-development.

when Oladi cant understand the meaning of teamwork and year after year, competition after another, he is criticized and reminded of the need for it ... to no avail, I think it goes to show how his mentality is underdeveloped.

and I am sure he IS having sex. and plenty of it.
been to Iran lately?

[zzgloo]

Dear ReginG Inferno...........and Dear DD................
Lets look at this a little deeper ............
And yes, DD jaan, I have been in Iran lately and know !!
In Iran, even,those who claim they are doing it a lot....are actualy doing nothing..........
In Iran, those selected few., wait a whole mounth,to have the car ready, the apartement ready, timeing ready, ( some get some booz and drug ready ), to have a silent , secret sex, every once in a moon.............
It takes a lot to do it there...................
as in mexico, for example, 16 year old boys get " BLOWN ",in the bath rooms of the school every day !!.........more over, the understanding of sex,in Iran,is more like, a " quieky "and a " F ", rather than makeing love.
The streets, when you walk in Iran, all you see are men, and " SIBILS ", there is lack female presence................just being able to look at females,during a day, would be a comforting daily experince,that our men are missing,let alone haveing sex,relationship, going to beach etc,can do.
Had " Olady",for example, had multyple love relationships, and been in mixed parties,and grew up in a open society,he would have been much more calmer,and more understanding of others.
It is no secret,that men who associate with opposite sex more often, are calmer,more relaxed, and less adgitated.
the problems of likes of oladi,is psycological imbalance,and not being able to see himself in a " TEAM ".
The culture in Iran, is what they call in the west, an " Exentric " culture !,as every one mostly grows up, prety individualy,and has his own individual truths !!

[Ali Chicago]

Amazing how we went from Olerum playing for Iran to Racisem and now Freudism and social engineering!!!!! Boy human's brain is amazing!!!!! and how event and phenomenons are interrelated.

[Ali Chicago]

In Iran, those selected few., wait a whole mounth,to have the car ready, the apartement ready, timeing ready, ( some get some booz and drug ready ), to have a silent , secret sex, every once in a moon.............
!

I haven't been to Iran for 20some years, so I dont' know Bahram Jaan, but from what I hear, they do "it" like rabbits dada. The rich ones get the girls to Turkey and UAE adn lesser rich ones, pick girls in the street and go to their apt and still less rich do it in the car.

Again, this is based on what I heared and never witnessed it first hand, so maybe there is exaggeration in it (like many other Iranian stories).

[Doctor DOOM]

Amazing how we went from Olerum playing for Iran to Racisem and now Freudism and social engineering!!!!! Boy human's brain is amazing!!!!! and how event and phenomenons are interrelated.

... speaking of "brain":
perhaps if our diet was right in Iran. for example more vegetables and greens in the diet of our developing children, they'd grow up more balanced and mature without the side effects of meat .

maybe the cleaner physical body of a sportsman would be more open to variety and diversity.
certainly the mind of a vegetarian is more open to such things.

NOW, we see when our grandmothers were forcing us to have those peas and vegetables during our childhood ( and we slowly threw them aside when she wasnt looking . or piled them on our little brother or sister's plate quickly ) they actually were doing the right thing and we never realized it !!!

now where were we .... ?

[Ali Chicago]

... speaking of "brain":
perhaps if our diet was right in Iran. for example more vegetables and greens in the diet of our developing children, they'd grow up more balanced and mature without the side effects of meat .
maybe the cleaner physical body of a sportsman would be more open to variety and diversity.
certainly the mind of a vegetarian is more open to such things.
NOW, we see when our grandmothers were forcing us to have those peas and vegetables during our childhood ( and we slowly threw them aside when she wasnt looking . or piled them on our little brother or sister's plate quickly ) they actually were doing the right thing and we never realized it !!!
now where were we .... ?

What is next Agha Payman? A lesson about Buddisem, Kama Sutra, vegeterianisem and world peace!!!!
You definitly are a very diverse and well rounded guy.

[Doctor DOOM]

hehe ... ali jan, while I will cover the budhism and world peace, I think I'll leave the "kama sutra" part to bahram khan-e gol ke ma ra mostafeez benamayand .

and I may be oblong ... sadly ..... but thankfully not "rounded".
however, I AM trying to lose about 7-8 Kg's by the end of this year.

[Ali Chicago]

hehe ... ali jan, while I will cover the budhism and world peace, I think I'll leave the "kama sutra" part to bahram khan-e gol ke ma ra mostafeez benamayand .

and I may be oblong ... sadly ..... but thankfully not "rounded".
however, I AM trying to lose about 7-8 Kg's by the end of this year.

Ok we will have a staff meeting next week to review project status on world preace and buddisem progress by you and Kama Sutra status by Bahram khan. I expect a Microsoft Project file with deadlines and stuff.

BTW what is Oblong? Good luck with loosing weight. I need to do that too.

[zzgloo]

hehe ... ali jan, while I will cover the budhism and world peace, I think I'll leave the "kama sutra" part to bahram khan-e gol ke ma ra mostafeez benamayand .

and I may be oblong ... sadly ..... but thankfully not "rounded".
however, I AM trying to lose about 7-8 Kg's by the end of this year.

DD jaan, ...........Are you sure,you do not have Sexophobia ??

[Doctor DOOM]

hehehe.
bahram jan, I just questioned the role of "having sex" on a striker's ability to score goals.

[zzgloo]

hehehe.
bahram jan, I just questioned the role of "having sex" on a striker's ability to score goals.

God bless you DD Jaan...........I knew,That idea puzzeled you.........but, it realy does influence the ability!!
Does n't confidense have anthing to do with the player's abilitiy ?
Does n't lack of tention have anthing to do with the player's ability ?
Does n't Psycological balance help player's make better decision ?
.......
You know , more than most,than Playing good football, playing better than most, is all in the head !!, not just dribbling, and kicking the ball.
And I was not just reffering to one person, I talked about the whole society,....when the whole society had sex problem, the whole society is exccentric,and imbalance.

[Ali Chicago]

God bless you DD Jaan...........I knew,That idea puzzeled you.........but, it realy does influence the ability!!
Does n't confidense have anthing to do with the player's abilitiy ?
Does n't lack of tention have anthing to do with the player's ability ?
Does n't Psycological balance help player's make better decision ?
.......
You know , more than most,than Playing good football, playing better than most, is all in the head !!, not just dribbling, and kicking the ball.
And I was not just reffering to one person, I talked about the whole society,....when the whole society had sex problem, the whole society is exccentric,and imbalance.

Adds an item to my to do list. Go to Goergia and set up Bahram with one of those Goeria peaches (with their cute accent). Bahram come up with a sexy Italian name. Gino is overused. How about Marcello or something. Goergian peaches have a soft spot for Italian man. !!!!! See Bahram, I go the distance for you dada. Officiall Bahram's Pimp.


One the question of sex thingy though, "Ali Chicago tries to act like really really smart and sophesticated and Freudian". Bahram how old were you when you got toilet trainiing? How about the Odipus issue? lol

[Doctor DOOM]

ey babaaaa.
shoma ha ham ke zadin too jaddeh khaaki dobareh !

when a player underperforms, there are a set of factors involved , and not just one. granted.
but having sex isnt on the top of the list, bahram jan.

before "sexual frustration" affects his performance, the more relevant issues like bad or deficient training, incorrect teachings by his coaches, inability to absorb tactics and .... result in such poor and deficient performances.

hala shoma ha heeey begin sex, girls, sex, girls, .... ( enticing as it may be, though ) !

so getting back to the subject:
when I see guys like olaadi and akbarpoor who have played a reasonable amount of time as pro ( they certainly charge "pro" fees ) players and still have deficient mentality and attitude towards the game, I can not help but look at their deficient training and development first.

hence, we can put such players aside and concentrate on the hopeful ones with potential like amraei, mirghorbani, ...

[Ali Chicago]

ey babaaaa.
shoma ha ham ke zadin too jaddeh khaaki dobareh !

when a player underperforms, there are a set of factors involved , and not just one. granted.
but having sex isnt on the top of the list, bahram jan.

before "sexual frustration" affects his performance, the more relevant issues like bad or deficient training, incorrect teachings by his coaches, inability to absorb tactics and .... result in such poor and deficient performances.

hala shoma ha heeey begin sex, girls, sex, girls, .... ( enticing as it may be, though ) !

so getting back to the subject:
when I see guys like olaadi and akbarpoor who have played a reasonable amount of time as pro ( they certainly charge "pro" fees ) players and still have deficient mentality and attitude towards the game, I can not help but look at their deficient training and development first.

hence, we can put such players aside and concentrate on the hopeful ones with potential like amraei, mirghorbani, ...

Payman jaan,
I think the first part of your post can potentially contradict the second part. As you said every player will go through a slump (at times for an extended period). Look at Ando right now in Bolton. So maybe Akbarpoor and Ooladi just having a down time. Plus, add another factore that we don't see Ooladi and Akbarpoor on TV (at least I don't, maybe u live in UAE or something and you do). They must be doing ok, if the UAE teams keep them. UAE teams have no Taaroof, see Daie, Minavand, Borhani and Kaabi. loately Majidi who got deported from UAE. If these guys (Akbar poor and Ooldai) don't deliver in UAE, they wouldn't have been picked or lasted there.