Why Nosrati is needed

[Martin-Reza]

As human pointed out on IRIB after the Costa Rica match, you need fast defenders to play a modern defense which defends far away from the own goal. Both Hosseini (whom I like a lot) nor Aghili are fast enough, so the Iranian defense defends very deep which results in huge gaps in our team.

That is why Nosrati is needed, even when he's not in topshape. I just don't know who to put beside him without Rezaei being available.

I'd still go for Hosseini because, despite being slow, he still is a heck of a defender and with three speedy defenders beside him his lacking pace might not be punished too often.

[zzgloo]

As human pointed out on IRIB after the Costa Rica match, you need fast defenders to play a modern defense which defends far away from the own goal. Both Hosseini (whom I like a lot) nor Aghili are fast enough, so the Iranian defense defends very deep which results in huge gaps in our team.
That is why Nosrati is needed, even when he's not in topshape. I just don't know who to put beside him without Rezaei being available.
I'd still go for Hosseini because, despite being slow, he still is a heck of a defender and with three speedy defenders beside him his lacking pace might not be punished too often.

Excelent points.................
l, may be the best selection still is::

kabei..............Hossaini...........Rahman...... ..Nosrati

[khabalood]

Nosrati has never been good at man to man marking and he can make serious errors in anticipation, teamwork and positioning. His superiority in speed does not warrant a first team spot. Also, as long as you are using human to support your arguments you should remember he is the same man who wrote that the team had no problems prior to WC 2006, and we remember how that team imploded on itself on and off the field. So I cannot support his judgment on tm players.

[Martin-Reza]

Well, I don't need human to understand that you need quick defenders increase the distance between the fourback and the own goal and neither to understand that this is needed for compact offensive football.

This is something the likes of Klinsmann and Loew regulary point out on German TV.

Interesting was that human pointed out that roughly the centerhalves need to run 20 meters in less than 3 seconds and that as far as he knows neither Hosseini nor Aghili are able to do so.

[maij]

I wholeheartedly agree on the point about having a fast or pacy defender , but disagree about the choice (Nosrati)

One must weight the options of having dependable solid players versus fast ones. Nosrati has never clicked in my opinion. Don't get me wrong , he can be as solid as they come , committed , plays his heart out and some of his tackles are simply splendid. (while some of the tackles are comical!!!)....
On the other side , he is clumsy , unreliable , inconsistent and worst of all he is just not in top form at all and somehow lost his self confidence.

I don't see that Nosrati is a savior at this point..... The problem with Team Melli is not the defense...it is the very poor Midfield and mediocre offensive lines with no quality striker and finisher.

[Kasra.]

I have to go with Majeed here. Nosrati is not TM material atm. we should kick some players out definately.

[Adesor Vafaseya]

I was always in favour of Nosrati. When he is in top form he is for me a MUST in defence. Also more experienced than other defenders we currently have. You just cant have someone like him in the country and not invite for TM.

[purple_haze]

I was always in favour of Nosrati. When he is in top form he is for me a MUST in defence. Also more experienced than other defenders we currently have. You just cant have someone like him in the country and not invite for TM.

Exactly.

[Kasra.]

I was always in favour of Nosrati. When he is in top form he is for me a MUST in defence. Also more experienced than other defenders we currently have. You just cant have someone like him in the country and not invite for TM.

but at what cost?

[Adesor Vafaseya]

but at what cost?

not "cost" amoo jan, more at "expense"

[Kasra.]

not "cost" amoo jan, more at "expense"

Hala what ever you want

at what expense?

[Adesor Vafaseya]

Hala what ever you want

at what expense?

put it this way, thats what I would love to see


--Kaabi---Nosrati---Hosseini---Nouri--

[Doctor DOOM]

1- if for the central defense, then I say hosseini is till better than nosrati as nosrati is out of form. but his game suits this position and hopefully he'll bounce back

but then again, how many central defenders are that fast anyway?
nesta isnt fast.
neither is cannavaro. or Puyol or Terry or ....
they all READ the game well and position themselves where it makes the most impact.
Hosseini does that well. I wont take today's game as any gauge since I've seen too many that he's done well in this matter to let just one game affect my opinion.


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2) but if we want to consider him for the LB, then , I absolutely and vehemently DISAGREE.

Nosrati, at the moment is just a "famous name" and hardly anything more.
on his hay day, when we played him as LB he was full of mistakes. let alone with today's form. it's hilarious !

we have guys like Asadi, sadeghi, even Aghili who can do better.
not to mention Al-Nemeh who is in the list of 50.
I hear zenitpoor also can be a candidate , but havent seen his game. so cant decide.
but to bring in a tested-and-failed player who isnt even at his best form is just suicide ... WHATEVER HIS FAME MAY BE.

this is typical branko philosophy of "cramming as many FAMOUS players" into a line up rather than those that can do the job, even if they're not as famous or popular !!!

[purple_haze]

I absolutely and vehemently DISAGREE.

Nosrati, at the moment is just a "famous name" and hardly anything more.
on his hay day, when we played him as LB he was full of mistakes. let alone with today's form. it's hilarious !

we have guys like Asadi, sadeghi, even Aghili who can do better.
not to mention Al-Nemeh who is in the list of 50.
I hear zenitpoor also can be a candidate , but havent seen his game. so cant decide.
but to bring in a tested-and-failed player who isnt even at his best form is just suicide ... WHATEVER HIS FAME MAY BE.

this is typical branko philosophy of "cramming as many FAMOUS players" into a line up rather than those that can do the job, even if they're not as famous or popular !!!

DD jan I hear you mention the name of Asadi in all your posts lately. May I ask how many games from him you have seen? I totally agree that LB post should be given to someone who plays it full time and Niki is not an option for that, but I'm just curious as to why this Asadi obsession all of a sudden?
I personally, based on what has been offered by iranian TV in recent times, can't say I have seen enough to decide if he's the one and only. From what I've seen I've him (the occasional TM, TM-B and Saba games against PP and SS) he's been ok, but not that spectacular. I'd say he's been basically at the same level of Al Nemeh, the Saipa pair of Ashtiani and the other guy who's name I forgot, Nouri or even Sattar Zare and much like Sattar Zare he too isn't left footed.

[Doctor DOOM]

the few I've seen , he's done better than the faltering niki or out-of-form nosrati.

remember I used to want sadeghi but he's not chosen among the 50 list.
I'd also have said aghili CAN do the job as well.
but since aghili's best post is in the middle and we do have someone who does better than our AVAILABLE options; asadi, I ask for him.