Now that DAEI is confirmed, what kind of team ...

[Doctor DOOM]

Now that DAEI is confirmed, what kind of team shd we expect from him and under him ?

A) to start with, I dont know much about the style of football played at saipa, under him. All I know is he has some really motivated youngsters like ansarifard and ashtiani and ... who despite being relative unknowns, display good football. But is saipa's style an attacking one ?
How do their midfield and defense transition? smoothly and close to other lines , or typical Iranian style of haphazzard deimi style?
how are they with the concept of COUNTER-ATTACK ? what do they do ?
how is their overall TEAM-WORK? or are they based on individuals' brilliance?


B) so would daei turn TM into a younger TM ?
I'm sure he'd keep some of the old guard like kia, VH and even karimi.
but I'm not so sure guys like rajabzadeh, enayati, even khatibi get a call up anymore. despite what the rumors say.
(I personally, am sure of Omid Sharifinasab who is among the most under-rated and under-estimated players in our football, will not get a call up either. the guy is a work horse, is creative and very talented. but due to his origins and club affiliations, never got his due. but unfortunately he's getting by in years and must be around 29-30 )


C) I absolutely believe in ONE thing: Daei will be good for our woes at TM with regards to scoring goals.
you dont become the world's top most scorer of goals with such limited talent, for nothing. you know he has compensated the required ball skills with great attitude, professionalism, hard work and an effective approach to the matter of scoring goals.
So I truly believe he'll turn things around, given 2-3 months.

D) another issue is the freekicks and all the little nuances of football that get lost in a general approach by a coach. we know Daei, in the final 2-3 years of his playing career was actually pretty good at set pieces. again, in spite of his lack of skills. which shows with intelligent dedication and application he rectified this matter. which leads me to believe he can and will do the same with his players here as well.

E) despite much of rumors, I dont think daei will have any problems calling up guys like nekunam, even mobaali.
In fact if he's wise enough, he'll do exactly opposite and give them more time. if only to show he's gotten over the past and make a point of fairness.



but finally, I must reiterate, while it's nice to see him get recognized and shown respect, he MUST NOT risk all by accepting the coaching during the second round of WCQ's. not for him and certainly not for TM's sake.
I really hope he does force the IFF to continue their search for the coach.

[maij]

but finally, I must reiterate, while it's nice to see him get recognized and shown respect, he MUST NOT risk all by accepting the coaching during the second round of WCQ's. not for him and certainly not for TM's sake.
I really hope he does force the IFF to continue their search for the coach.

All due respect , Doc, don't you think that is pre-mature and that is a decision that Daei should make rather being imposed by him ???

Beside, he has a one year contract and that should really take him right to the middle of the third round , assuming we qualify, which is hardly an ideal time to change coaches

[Doctor DOOM]

1- ok, majid jan.

I think this 1st, 2nd, 3rd, .... hell, I've even seen ppl talk about 4th round WCQ's is all confusing. ( lets not go to those who count each game a round !!!! )

I know there was another round prior to this one we're in , for the much lower ranked asian teams, which in AFC, makes this present round, the 2nd round.
but for us, IRANIANS & TM, this is our 1st round and that's why I keep saying 1st and 2nd ( the next stage ) round.

having said that, I think he can very much maintain his contract which does extend upto middle of the next stage ( 3rd round for AFC, 2nd for me ) but if they do bring in a coach, Daei can and shd become his first assistant, and stay at TM.

2- now, back to your 1st point:
I dont think anyone will impose it on him, but given that he's smart enough and is aware of the ceiling of his abilities, and if his massive gigantic ego allows him, he will realize he will not be a match for the bigger teams and their coaches and considering his level of patriotism, I think he will arrive at such a decision himself.

..... if his ego doesnt prevail, in the wrestling match in his head, over logic and sense.

becoz truly, I'm not too sure about how he could deal with and triumph against teams like ksa, aussies, japan, korea, ... with their coaches. I'm not too optimistic in this issue.

[maij]

I don't think Daei will accept to be assistant coach if he manages to take Team Melli to the third round ( let's stick to the official name). Why should he , if he manages to qualify ?

But then again , why should IFF bring another person with Daei under contract ?? ... YES in Iran anything is possible, but it is not right morally and ethically.

Daei would not have risked his reputation if he did not believe in his own ability.

Have you heard of a coach called Fajer Ebrahim ?? will he coaches Syria and he manged to draw against Iran and did a fantastic job with the team in the first round forcing the Syrian FA to change their mind about bringing that Italian guy (Cabrini) , why should Daei not make the grade like fajr?

Have you heard of Nasser Jowhar , the Saudi Standby coach? Every time the greats like Zagalo failed , this handyman took over and took the team to a final or to qualification.


Have you of Avram Chelsea's coach before Maurinho took over ? Everyone , myself included , gave him a few eeks before Abramovic would kick his ass all the way to Isreal, but the results of Chelsea in fact improved with him and he is still there.....What does that tell you?

I can give you several other regional cases of similar nature , but the point I like to make is that there is no reasons , given Daei's reputation and experience , why he could not achieve ...

I am afraid , I have not yet focused too much on Daei's coaching capabilities simply because I have not seen much of Saipa's matches to form an opinion , but regardless to that , the point remains that Daei has the ability to lead a team and if he has learned from his European experience and applied whatever necessary at Team Melli , he should have no natural problems.

On paper , YES he lacks experience at coaching...Ideally I would have picked him in a couple of years from now , but we are not talking about an ideal situation here as you know.

[zzgloo]

On the paper, he is very good....yet......
If the last league championship is any indication....he seems to be loseing attention and consistancies...........as his manegerial skills, do n't have diciplin....More over, although, there is time to catch up in league games, but in international games, the slightest inconsistancies may cause elimination.
This is, where qotbi may have had advantage.......
He also would be wise, to select an experince assistant or assistants.

[Ali Chicago]

I think it will be a tough time ahead of us. Lack of experience at the national level, all the undercurrent of past history, all in all makes me very worrried. Having said that, I think next 2-3 games will be crucial. If Team Melli under Mr. Daie win the next 2-3 games and the team is succesful and does well, the positive atmosphere will be established, critices and (Daie has a lot of them, will get quiet). Don't forget amount of hatered that exist toward Mr. Daie. But the good thing (maybe!!!) is many Iranians tend to have a very short term memory when it comes to history and everything will be pushed under the rug. So that can help. If team is succesful, it will be a kiss and forget, as if there wasn't a time that in Iranian staduims fans were swearing at him and teams were getting peanalized by the IFF (since their fans insulted Mr. Daie). Mind you, it never happened for any other player (as far as I know). Fans swear at other team or insult other team, but ver rarely (maybe in a head to head game) fans insult a specific player (PP fans did it to Hashemi Nasab and SS fans to Nikki). But no other player universally get insulted in the Iranian stadiums by fans (Anzali, Azadi, Isfahan, Ahwaz) like Mr. Daie did. I know Malavan had to play one game without fans since Malavan fans insulted Mr. Daie. Same with PP fans and many other cases.

But if the team doesn't do well in the next 2-3 games, I think it will be really tough for Mr. Daie. Even worst atmosphere around the team melli comapred to the atmosphere around the TM under GN. Every call up or not call up of a player will be analyzed to death and be open season on Daie.

The man (Mr. Daie) is ambition and maybe his risk will pay off, but I think Daie sets himself for a very potentially dangerous trap. If he had more head coachign experience under his belt let say 2-3 years down the road, it would have been wiser for him to step in. But then again, life is all about timing.

Regardless, I am not the man's fan and it is no secret, but best of luck to him and wish him all the success and for the next 6 months, I will be quiet, observe and support Mr. Daie. This doesn't mean after 6 months I will be against him, but I think for the first 6 months, he needs time to shape up the team the way he likes and for that he at least needs 6 months. Bad thing WC qualification is ahead of us and go forbid if we don't do well and team won't make it past this round.

I hope I am wrong about the outcome of Mr. Daie becoming the head coach of the TM.

[Doctor DOOM]

Daei's strong points at the moment may be:

1- inspirational for the team
2- great motivator
3- respect among 90% of the team, some of whom may even be in awe of him.
4- int'l exposure to various styles of football
5- familiarity with the nuances and nitty-gritty of asian football and our usual opponents, including all the peripheral issues involved
6- given our goal scoring problem, he's in ideal position to help
7- his ambition/hunger and motivation to push his limits and reach higher
8- his far superior professional attitude compared to almost all TM members ( w exception of Kia and perhaps VH )
9- ...etc.
these are his plus points that can really help our situation.

But as for other matters, I am not so sure.
important matters like :
1- tactical variation
2- strategic reading of a game
3- ability to avoid choking in high pressure situations

such factors that cripple even some of the more experienced and better coaches.
and unfortunately, these are the ones that I'm not so sure about his capabilities ! and while in the present round ( 2nd ) he may not be put in extreme cases of these, in the next stage you can be sure he'll face it almost on every game basis.

[The-Red]

wow I am surprised no one here is shocked by the level of corruption and partybazi in IFF,,,once again I must add, IFF (I.R.) prove that they will do what suits them best and fits their agenda, NOT what is good for the country...but what the hell do I know about all this, the selection was probably another good decision made by the IFF and I.R and will benefit us in the long run!

[maij]

Daei's strong points at the moment may be:

1- inspirational for the team
2- great motivator
3- respect among 90% of the team, some of whom may even be in awe of him.
4- int'l exposure to various styles of football
5- familiarity with the nuances and nitty-gritty of asian football and our usual opponents, including all the peripheral issues involved
6- given our goal scoring problem, he's in ideal position to help
7- his ambition/hunger and motivation to push his limits and reach higher
8- his far superior professional attitude compared to almost all TM members ( w exception of Kia and perhaps VH )
9- ...etc.
these are his plus points that can really help our situation.

But as for other matters, I am not so sure.
important matters like :
1- tactical variation
2- strategic reading of a game
3- ability to avoid choking in high pressure situations

such factors that cripple even some of the more experienced and better coaches.
and unfortunately, these are the ones that I'm not so sure about his capabilities ! and while in the present round ( 2nd ) he may not be put in extreme cases of these, in the next stage you can be sure he'll face it almost on every game basis.

Very well put , Peyman Jan.

Like I said somewhere else, I have not focused to well on Daei as a coach to form an opinion , but the last three quite valid points can be handled properly by an intelligent coach and availability of options and resources at the time.

There is always a possibility for Daei not to succeed at this level of football , and by God there are a few out here that are pouncing for the opportunity for him to fail and consider this day as a national day.
Trust the Iranians to bear the hatred culture for their most prolific striker and national hero.

[maij]

I hope I am wrong about the outcome of Mr. Daie becoming the head coach of the TM.

No offense Ali Jan, but I hope you are very wrong. Time will tell.

But may I ask , would you feel happy if Daei screws up ? and if so , what point do you want to prove ?

[Adesor Vafaseya]

Also, like Ali, I do hope I am wrong about Daei's selection

Its TM that we care about first and foremost and we all hope Daei can handle the situation....

[zzgloo]

May be the best quality Daei has, at this point.....Is,to creat chemistry,and mesh the team in very short time we have......I did not see,any other candidates , being able to do it faster......he already knows , in and out what is going on inside the locker rooms of TM....and knows what had happened in the past that were not pleasent........
So, at least for the Kuwait game only...he is the best selection.....and may be for the same reason, he is the best selection for this round !!
....................
But if God forbids, and we lose ,and get eliminated by the syria,kuwait,and UAE..............then we will have the whole 7 and half years to hit ourseleves on the head !

, Although, we should all be supportive of our new head coach, and indeed he may help us......but, for some reasons, I do not see us going far with him.............

1- He is too emotional.
2-he is not a smart man ( there has been too many indications )
3-he has little to no experince in coaching.
4-he can not handle ,the hashieh , that we have so much in Iran.
5-he is too young to have the complete package,and balance.
6-he is not consistant,and went so much up and down with siapa.
7-he may also cause some frictions withing TM locker room.
8-The respect and loyality of all players in him , is seriousely in doubt.
9-he has no manegerial skills.
10-he is a of the kind, that may resign.

[police in helicopter]

One of the positive aspects that I see about his selection is that he knows IPL very well. He has played and coached against IPL players and surely knows about the ressources (players) of the league that would be interesting candidates for TM.

The main problem in my opinion is his relation with some of the players. He did not have everyone's respect in the locker room as the skipper, why would it be different as a coach?

[Ali Chicago]

No offense Ali Jan, but I hope you are very wrong. Time will tell.

But may I ask , would you feel happy if Daei screws up ? and if so , what point do you want to prove ?

majid jaan,

What in my post suggested I feel happy if Daie screws up? You see for me the situation in Iran is less of two evils. Do you think I was happy with GN being the head coach? No I wasn't but he was the coach and I supported him or at least didnt' spread rumors and wasnt' negative.

It will be same for Mr. Daie. I honestly beleive and hope I am wrong about Mr. Daie and he will be succesful. Nothing will make me happier than that.

But as the Farsi saying goes, sally ke nekoost as baharesh paydast. Daie has a strong opposition and that opposition will jump on the first opportunity (as soon as team doesn't do well) to create hasheeyeh for the TM.

Again, I really don't know what in my post prompted you to post this. I thought you know me better than this (to prefer me being right, rather than TM beging succesful).

[Ali Chicago]

Daei's strong points at the moment may be:

1- inspirational for the team
2- great motivator
3- respect among 90% of the team, some of whom may even be in awe of him.
4- int'l exposure to various styles of football
5- familiarity with the nuances and nitty-gritty of asian football and our usual opponents, including all the peripheral issues involved
6- given our goal scoring problem, he's in ideal position to help
7- his ambition/hunger and motivation to push his limits and reach higher
8- his far superior professional attitude compared to almost all TM members ( w exception of Kia and perhaps VH )
9- ...etc.
these are his plus points that can really help our situation.

But as for other matters, I am not so sure.
important matters like :
1- tactical variation
2- strategic reading of a game
3- ability to avoid choking in high pressure situations

such factors that cripple even some of the more experienced and better coaches.
and unfortunately, these are the ones that I'm not so sure about his capabilities ! and while in the present round ( 2nd ) he may not be put in extreme cases of these, in the next stage you can be sure he'll face it almost on every game basis.

With all the respect I think 1 and 3 aren't applicable. IF anything there is a lot of negative atmosphere around Mr. Daie.
For item number 6, Payman jaan, goal scoring isn't just the center forward. Next time look and see how many of Iranian players are in the 18 yard box of the opposition when we attack? Or how far is the second wave of attack from the forward line. Goal scoring isn't just Samereh or Enayati's job (althought they have to be opportunistic and make it count). So I don't think MR. Daie or X or Y can bring Samereh, Khalili, Rajabzadeh and practice with them separtely and our goal scoring problem will be solved. While this needs to be done, it won't be enough.