The Coaching dilema again !!!

[zzgloo]

I know,......this is an old issue .....and we have talked about it alot.....
The federation,
The infurstucture,
The system,
The management,
etc,etc............
All aside.....but

WHY ?? at the time of, likes of " Clemente " have to settle with a secound league coaching in Spain, we in Iran ,have to answer these questions :

1-Why, Branko, an assistant to a secound rate foerign coach did so well in Iran ?

2- Why,Azizi, playing for short while in San-diego,and minimal foerign experince, goes to Abumoslem,without any coaching experince, brings up a dead team, that had possesed no particular talent ?

3- Why, Luca, the coach of Sepahan, with far too low a " international credentials ", brings up sepahan ,again with no particular talent, to almost championing Asia ?

4- Why, Ali Daei, good player as he may have been, and very limited playing time in Europe, goes to Saipa, without any coaching experince , on the very first attempt, ( as usualy, in today's world 3 year program is needed ),wins the league championship ?

5- Why, Ghotbi, again, limited head coaching job, and no playing experince, goes to Iran, and again, on his first year, almost wins the championship ?

..............Is it,that any one with even a little outside experince can beat all domestic coaches ?
..............Do these indications, mean, we in Iran, are in major drought of even elementary coaching ??
.............Could this issue, be even more important than our Federation ?
.............Does this mean , Our football talents have been waisted ?

[Adesor Vafaseya]

Our football talent is definitely being wasted over the last 28 years!

my thoughts:

1, well to me Blazevic was not a 2nd rated European coach, he was among the very good ones.. just my oppinion... Ivankovic gained lots of his experiences from Miroslav Blazevic and was in my oppinion lucky to have a good squad! Surely, he did better than most Iranian coaches during his era. But he also wasted talents such as Borhani etc.. by not giving them any playing time, by letting a single forward (Ali daei) who achieved everything to play time and time again, even against the likes of Laos... well after Ivankovic and Ali Daei left...what is left?
People who say, Brankovic took Ali Daei because the others were not good, are wrong to believe that a youngester is good from day one, you must give them more playing time etc...
so end result.... Yes ---> we had good players, but again wasted our full capabilities

2, Azizi like many other star players of the past, who come from troublesome eras of Iranian football undrestand the football dilemma of the country well.. if IFF would have taken more care of them by providing them the right facilities, their experience would have been tremendous for our football develpoment specailly at youth and basics level...
so end-result ---> yes we have the ppl who can make an impact but again wasted our full capabilities

3, Luca and Sepahan. Best example! Sepahan is maybe the only team in Iran with a good club management... see where they are as a result of that?
now imagine we would have had the same management at PP, SS, Saba.... we would have ruled Asia
end result---> yes wasted our full capabilities

4, exactly the same as I said in point 2! wasted our full capabilities

5, Ghotbi collected a lot of coaching experience by learing from Bora Milutinovic, Guus Hiddink, Dick Advokaat, Pim Verbeek, and he was abel to put what he learned from them on theoretical level also into practice... had we had more young coaches being sent to FIFA classes and Traineeship programmes under good European coaches, where would have we been today?
end-result.. yes also on coaching level --> wasted our full capabilities

so putting the above into one simple sentence... We are indeed wasting our talents!
as simple and as sad as that!

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[zzgloo]

Our football talent is definitely being wasted over the last 28 years!
my thoughts:
1, well to me Blazevic was not a 2nd rated European coach, he was among the very good ones.. just my oppinion... Ivankovic gained lots of his experiences from Miroslav Blazevic and was in my oppinion lucky to have a good squad! Surely, he did better than most Iranian coaches during his era. But he also wasted talents such as Borhani etc.. by not giving them any playing time, by letting a single forward (Ali daei) who achieved everything to play time and time again, even against the likes of Laos... well after Ivankovic and Ali Daei left...what is left?
People who say, Brankovic took Ali Daei because the others were not good, are wrong to believe that a youngester is good from day one, you must give them more playing time etc...
so end result.... Yes ---> we had good players, but again wasted our full capabilities
2, Azizi like many other star players of the past, who come from troublesome eras of Iranian football undrestand the football dilemma of the country well.. if IFF would have taken more care of them by providing them the right facilities, their experience would have been tremendous for our football develpoment specailly at youth and basics level...
so end-result ---> yes we have the ppl who can make an impact but again wasted our full capabilities
3, Luca and Sepahan. Best example! Sepahan is maybe the only team in Iran with a good club management... see where they are as a result of that?
now imagine we would have had the same management at PP, SS, Saba.... we would have ruled Asia
end result---> yes wasted our full capabilities
4, exactly the same as I said in point 2! wasted our full capabilities
5, Ghotbi collected a lot of coaching experience by learing from Bora Milutinovic, Guus Hiddink, Dick Advokaat, Pim Verbeek, and he was abel to put what he learned from them on theoretical level also into practice... had we had more young coaches being sent to FIFA classes and Traineeship programmes under good European coaches, where would have we been today?
end-result.. yes also on coaching level --> wasted our full capabilities
so putting the above into one simple sentence... We are indeed wasting our talents!
as simple and as sad as that!
...

There were many discusions, on this site,and many of our friends, believe, infurstucture, or bad manegment, or IFF, etc, are more important than the coaching....which that may be true to some extend.......but, they fail to recagnize, that what a huge difference The coaching can make..even with currant system.
Why is it, that all rooky coaches who had had some foerign expousure, are doing so good in Iran ?......mostly, even on thier first year ?.....as they know something the rest have no idea about.
If, Azizi,daei,Ghotbi,etc....can influence our football so much......imagin, what the next generation of foerign experinced coaches can do :
likes of hashemian,mahdavikia, anderanik,rahman,navidkia,etc,etc,...which they are so many !......
The success of these generation, can only indicate, how low the coaching competition standard in Iran is......and consiquently, lots of waisted talents.
More over, it also proves, how low the standard of our league is, that even inexperinced coaching can succed in Iran in short time.....
and how faster raising coaching standard can help our football, compaire to federation evolution .

[Adesor Vafaseya]

There were many discusions, on this site,and many of our friends, believe, infurstucture, or bad manegment, or IFF, etc, are more important than the coaching....which that may be true to some extend.......but, they fail to recagnize, that what a huge difference The coaching can make..even with currant system.
Why is it, that all rooky coaches who had had some foerign expousure, are doing so good in Iran ?......mostly, even on thier first year ?.....as they know something the rest have no idea about.
If, Azizi,daei,Ghotbi,etc....can influence our football so much......imagin, what the next generation of foerign experinced coaches can do :
likes of hashemian,mahdavikia, anderanik,rahman,navidkia,etc,etc,...which they are so many !......
The success of these generation, can only indicate, how low the coaching competition standard in Iran is......and consiquently, lots of waisted talents.
More over, it also proves, how low the standard of our league is, that even inexperinced coaching can succed in Iran in short time.....
and how faster raising coaching standard can help our football, compaire to federation evolution .

Correct!

but what we have also to realize is, will IFF give the chance and development path to those young coaches of the future?
or will they be selctive? (again)

What I have always asked myself is, why IFF pays no attention to the following ex-national team players, who DO have coaching licenses and does not even make use of them at any significant national level?:
Mohammad Panjali, Majid Namjoo Motlagh, Hamid Derakhshan, Farshad Pious....
but why do the likes of Mayeli Kohan and Amir Ghalenoie coming from the same generation being selected?

you get my point? I believe IFF's selectiveness prohibits those coaches to explore!

Now back to coaches as you called with "foreign touch".... will we make good use of them? the problem is - as I already know - we wont.

Best of luck to Mahdavikia or Rahman Rezaei if they ever decide to go the coaching career for Iran....

its sad my friend, indeed sad!