Life's a bitc.h for .....

[RaginG Inferno]

hehe

but if we dont, what would you do?

That's up to you to decide!

[Martin-Reza]

Your problem is that you believe to see deficits, which you are, at least partially, able to. But your knowledge doesn't allow you to propose solutions. Yet you do, by proposing simply embarassingly wrong solutions. You really think by trying out players you can always find a better one, as if there was an unlimited source of quality. Just as one example.

You think football is easy to understand. It's not. You haven't understood it at all, but how could you know?

Just think, why don't you coach a pro team? Why couldn't you? There must be sth those guys have you don't. And exactly this makes them more knowledgable than you. And without that knowledge you cannot understand every single decision. But by knowing you lack knowledge, your intelligence must tell you that in cases of disagreement with a pro, even when you think he's obviously wrong, in most cases YOU are wrong.

And it is annoying for other people when someone constantly acts as if he was more than he is, which you do all the time. If you're so clever, go, get yourself a coaching license, start coaching youth team, make it up to pro level and achieve success. Then I'll shut up and listen to your analysises and accept them even if I don't like them. But if you lack knowledge and information (how fast is Mobali on 100m?, just as example) don't talk as if you had it and would know things better than someone who has much more knowledge and information than you!

[Doctor DOOM]

And your problem is that you are so caught up with opposition( fear of ? ) to any change that you just don’t think ( and apparently, READ straight ) !!

1- Twist it all you want, oft feebly. But “the truth is out there”. The team has MANY deficits and whether we talk about them or not, they remain there.

Now, comes the absurd part: just becoz we are not in the position to do something, we shd refrain from even talking about them ? if that is your logic, then, good call not picking up fields that use “logic” as their basis !

Secondly, yet again, we go back to the old analogy:
If a square peg doesn’t fit into a round hole, no matter how many times one tries. It means it is NOT going to fit.
This is an experiment done with monkeys. And after sometime, the monkey discovered a way to solve it: by trying ANOTHER PEG to fit into the round hole. And he tried and tried till he found one that did fit.
………… A monkey !
I don’t have to spell out anything any further.

No need for “unlimited source of quality” coz we don’t have such luxuries . But we certainly have a few other options ( other pegs ) that never get tried as seriously as nosrati or zareh ( square pegs ) were !
Basically it is “nothing ventured, nothing gained”. And we have gained NOTHING in correcting many defects, coz we never ventured to try our options …. Due to branko’s insecurity ( that god forbid, if he’s proven wrong on his selection ) and laj-baazi !

And btw, the players suggested ARE doing well, and performing well. If this proposal is so outrageous and unacceptable to you ( to twist it as if it’s highly technical ), then, my friend, you have denial problems and reality issues !


2- who said I want to be a coach ?
you seem to be challenged when it comes to “reading” matters also !!
coz the attached quote in my post is to show you : it doesn’t NEED a degree or coaching certificate to SEE / NOTICE the team lacks in x , y and z areas.

Now, I understand and accept the reality that everyone has his/her own limitations intellectually.

But go back and read the quote once more, and tell me is that someone trying to become or act like a coach? Or someone who says TM’s defects are most obvious that even regular fans detect them .

….. and those of us who put TM as our priority ( unlike others ) , demand correction of these areas from the coach who has been here for the past 5 years, supposedly worked with all players, supposedly has a file of every player in his cabinet (!!!!), supposedly is experienced , supposedly …. !
yeah, yeah, yeah . but, All those claims have to materialize into reality and prove themselves.


If for YOU noting what player is good at what and how, is such a daunting and humongous task that you simply don’t see it within your intellectual capacity, then so be it.
You are free to your opinion.
But don’t expect others to be as limited as you.
Accept diversity. The sooner, the better for you.
So you wouldn’t embarrass yourself time and again with such posts which basically belittle your own understanding of such an EASY sport.

[Martin-Reza]

Don't get carried away by mentioning 30 things at once and trying to insult me by questioning my intelligence.

What do you think do you lack to be a coach? Or differently put, do you think do you lack football knowledge compared to Branko and is there anything he lacks in comparison to you?

Just answer as straight as possible and don't try to escape by typing dozens of paragraphs.

[Doctor DOOM]

..... and btw, ( I forgot to add ) , this demand of "talk when you have a coachign certificate" is proven that much more pathetic, when we see such demands never applied to the posts/members that usually "fall in line" with branko's thinking !!!!


stop embarrassing yourslef now.



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to answer you:
I dont claim to be a coach.
never did.

I dont claim to be technically on par with any coach.
never did.

but I do "announce" ( news to you ) that I do have EYES.
and I do "announce" ( news to you ) that I am intelligent enough to know when a player makes mistakes continuously or drifts elsewhere continuously, or cant do x or y or our players cant string 3-4 passes together ( mind you, I have to thank my EYES for this ) , ... .

and this, is where we have a problem.
you expect me not to notice these BLATANT ( "clear as day", "most obvious", "most apparent", ... pick your choice ) defects, and not say a word !
I do.

coz my priority is TM .
not branko or x or y.

simple as that.

[Martin-Reza]

Just answer the question and don't try to escape by cheap provocation and getting off topic as always.

[Doctor DOOM]

just did

[Martin-Reza]

No you didn't, you gave one of those chicken answers once again, trying to escape admitting the truth, which is that you in no aspect concerning football are even close to the guy you always describe as big moron. Guess what it tells us about you .

[Doctor DOOM]

well looki here :

one has problem with a moron.

the other supports him , no matter what.

what does that make the second fellow ?


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btw, this kind of talk works on those teenagers you have in the football board.
you know , the insinuation, labeling, aggressive remarks, .... .

there, you may threaten a guy or try to force this absurd notion of "reasoning" (!!!!) upon him so he'll agree.
( and hey, as a bonus, he may even use branko's face as an avatar !! )

but dont expect it to work with everyone.
not with us here.

you wanted to know if I am a coach or what right do I have to comment or .... .
and I did answer you, the team's defects are so clear and visible that even a regular fan like me would notice them.

now, if this doesnt sit well with you, ..... tough !
maybe you can go to football board and try to sway some more teenagers and manhandle them.

good luck, btw.

[Martin-Reza]

Again, very cheap escape attempted. Hiding behind plenty of blabla, what you are famous for.

Does it hurt so much saying it? That Ivankovic's football knowledge exceeds your's in every single aspect? Or do you really, lol God forbid, believe to be more knowledgeable than him?

This is the basis of every discussion. Before you hit the keyboard you must know it and the start is to admit Branko is more knowledgable than you openly or at least have the balls to admit that you indeed think you are more knowledgable than the national team coach.

Not before this is clearified, we can approach the matter how a rational and intelligent human being can voice critisizm, namely not the way you are doing. But this can't be even talked about as long as you are playing your cheap games, trying to keep your whole illusion of "rational critisizm" alive.

So don't be afraid, be a man and just answer the very simple question I had asked you. You're afraid of giving a straight answer. Who's the wimp now Dr. Doom?

Do you think do you lack football knowledge compared to Branko?

[Doctor DOOM]

hehehe

now, I get it.
you're not used to ppl talking back.

you expect everyone to immediately fold and agree as if what u said was gospel !!!

hehehehe


and u'r used to having the "last word" .

ok, buddy.
lets all pretend you had the last word.

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as for the Q, I have answered it in post # 24, and #20 on me not being a coach or having any claims to it or ... .
and have said so in many threads and posts.

now if you have problem understanding such simple statements, what can "I" do ?

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now, I'm allowing you to have the last word, to save your face here.
which I think I shd, since u r the editor in chief, and we cant have any editor in chief embarrassed in HIS site.
no, ladies and gentlemen, that would not be fair !

go ahead.
have it.

[Martin-Reza]

No, you did not answer. Just writing anything after a question is not an answer.
You were answering to a question that was never asked. I would show you why it is important to clear that question before talking about what one needs in order to see what, but you're winding like a worm to escape that question.

You are trying to do the second step (talking about what is needed to see blabla) before the first one, making clear who is talking about whom. You do that intentionally to keep some backdoor open. Without having it ouspoken directly, you can still escape to your famous endless postings and accusations.

You say you don't want a "cowardly coach who is afraid of everything". I am sick of cowardly critics who are afraid to give straight replies to simple questions.
I didn't say someone with less knowledge than Ivankovic cannot see problems, if you afraid I would use your answer against you.

The question is fair, direct and simple, and as a rational critic that you claim to be you should be man enough to give a reply. What I want is the truth, you claim to be a fan of the truth also, so why being afraid of a direct true reply? Always knowing everything better, but too afraid to answer a simple question directly.

[Mr.Good]

now, I'm allowing you to have the last word, to save your face here.
which I think I shd, since u r the editor in chief, and we cant have any editor in chief embarrassed in HIS site.
no, ladies and gentlemen, that would not be fair !

go ahead.
have it.

I thought that you had somthing "different" in the way you think.
But with that last post, it seem to me that you have somthing wrong with your character.

Martin-Reza, along with Majid, Mansoor, and Human are the most knowledgable members of this forum. Whenever, I come to this forum, I look for posts by these people. Their post, even if it was one line has much more information in it than your nonsense books you are typing.

The way you are downplaying TM coach and the members that dont agree with you shows your real class. It seems that respect doesnt work with you any more. You need replies with the similar class of yours.

[Martin-Reza]

We've reached the root of the dilemma on which Dr. DOOM's whole "logic" bases. We all, including himself, know that Branko is more knowledgeable than Dr. DOOM. But Dr. DOOM's whole critisizm bases on the accusation that Branko is a moron, which is why he's doing so much wrong. So we could conclude Dr. DOOM needs years of training and experience to reach the level of a moron. This is mean now, but the main point is that Branko is no moron but a very knowledgeable person, and persons less knowledgeable than him, like Dr. DOOM, can be knowledgeable too.

The problem is as soon as he admits Branko's wisdome in footballing matters exceeds his, he cannot argue the way he did so far, namely that Branko makes idiotic mistakes obvious to all of us because he's a moron.

That's why he's winding like a worm as I said, to escape a direct answer to the posted question. Wow, and this is the guy leading the Branko critics. I always wonder if the real critics are not ashamed a guy like this is making a bad name to all critics, also to those who argue in a rational way and in accordance to their status.

[Doctor DOOM]

Q was :
Do you think do you lack football knowledge compared to Branko?

Answer ( many of them, actually, and not only here, but in several places ) was :

to answer you:
I dont claim to be a coach.
never did.

I dont claim to be technically on par with any coach.
never did.

"Voila!!!"

and have said this on several occasions and in several posts/threads.


now how difficult is the above answer to understand, I wonder ?



Now, the contentious issues of TM are open for everyone to see.
Many have voted on them and have acknowledged their existence in many polls, one right here on the F+ page.
I doubt 98% of those who voted have any coaching license.
Did you question their votes?
Did you ask them to produce their coaching certificate?

Or are we living in a fascistic place where no1 can question why those problems exist and …. ?
I would like to think it isn’t so.

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and btw, agha khoobe, nothing wrong with my character.

- As a member I am entitled to my opinion.
Or do u refute it?

- As a member I can take any side I believe in.
Or do u refute it?

- As a member I voice my opinion and ideas and … in my posts .
Or do u refute it?

- ( Disagreement & diversity in views are the reason for existence of such fora and I welcome a debate anyday.)
As a member I respect any and all members, but as long as they do the same to me.
but when someone comes an attacks or tries to belittle my opinion or … I will return the favor. Make no mistake about this one.

To give you an example;
when you call my views nonsense, I totally lose respect for you and may even regard you as a narrow minded, immature kid ( now, THAT's a character !! )

Now, when I have answered MR’s question, and yet he asks it again and again, I am led to believe the crux of the matter is elsewhere, and not in the Q or my answer !

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and btw, the actual worm is "squirming" becoz he has indeed got the answer to his Q, but the tragedy of it is , he doesnt LIKE the answer !!!


I could also say some inane thing like : "wow, this is the guy who is editor in chief of pfdc" or .... .
but wont, coz I still like pfdc, and think of it as my own site, as has been for almost 8-9 years now.
but I CAN say, I am ashamed that such a close-minded fellow is in charge of this site .