Esteghlal should plan to get GN back!

[Doctor DOOM]

One more time expense and investment are two different things. Sazeman trabeeyat badani pays for expenses and is afraid of selling SS and PP to someone else (since whoever take over these two teams, potentially can become very influential).

ali jan, irrespective of the NATURE of intention behind the sazeman's aids, the FACT is that they are being aided by the govt. and often heavily.
that's all I'm saying.

now, do I agree that PEO has a right to do so ?
NO.
do I agree that clubs shd stand on their own w no interference from govt?
YES.


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Read about Hassan Rowshan quarrles with Fattollahzadeh about the budget of youth programs for SS. Then you realize how improtant is money.
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btw, the very fact that you brought up on SS youth program not getting enough funds ( which we can safely translate as not enough attention ) proves my point that they dont have the proper system to develop and then inject their seniors with those youth.

no wonder many of their youth actually end up in other clubs until they become stars and then ss has to pay through their nose to buy them back.
jabbari's deal rings any bells ?

no wonder ss youth dont see much of the funds needed . coz almost all of those funds and aid is spent on the seniors and buying "stars" from other clubs and ... etc.


...... all of which brings me back to my square one: it is not about the money. it is about HOW this money is spent and used.

[Ali Chicago]

btw, the ss you speak about in the COUNTRY's youth championship is NOT the tehran chapter of ss. it is the ahvaz one. ( ay naaghola. wanted to sneak it in, eh ? )
in fact the most accomplished ones are sepahan, ss-ahvaz and zob.

No I was talkign about SS Tehran. As far as I know, SS ahwaz hasnt' won anything at the U19 or U 23 level league. To clarify, I would like everyone to know that there is a u19 and U23 league held in Iran and all the major clubs have team in it. Zob Ahan won the title two years ago. Unfortunately those two leagues don't get much coverage.
There is a record of each youth program for each club, go see how SS Tehran has done there year in and out. That is the depth of the SS youth program.


Even before SS ahwaz was formed SS Tehran in among the top three teams at the under 19 and under 23 championship of Iranian clubs. For the records Sepahan youth program isnt' as good as zob ahan or even SS Tehran (based on teh number of titles at least and number of players they have developed) ZA developed Amrayiee Mosalman and many others. I gave the list of SS players in the past and this year, SS youth program delivered Bayat and Ghanbari. From Sepahan only youth (that I am not sure was brought up in their own youth program is Ehsan Haj Safi).