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**zzgloo** · 05-14-2008, 09:39 AM

If I was the head coach, I would invite ALL.
What is there to lose ?...some meals at the camp's resturant ?
Why not, inviteing 60 players....in a mounth long camp......and no one should play if they do not attend the camp.....hence, let the competition settle the selection.

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Never theless,From the European bunch,I like:

1-Kia............we need the consistancy of crosses,set pieces,advance passes he brings ,even with his old yet battle tested body...we still do not have any one to replace this old man with.Being a step behind in European football is still fast enough for iranian football.

2-Hashemian...........the guy,thinks he is " messi ", but we are too thin at his position.

3-Nekounam..............We should build the TM around him.

All other Euro legioners can prove themseleves in the camp.

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Among Arab legioners :

1-Karimi...............

2-Madanchi..........

3-Kazemian.........

all other arab legioners can prove thier worth in the camp.

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Also, among locals......Bagheri should be invited once again.

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**Doctor DOOM** · 05-14-2008, 11:44 AM

bahram jan, it is not as if we can have an unlimited roster.
obviously the final 22 or 23 roster is in mind.
the 4 games are spaced so closely that u can be sure there wont be any changes to the final 22. daei has to close the team urgently.
... well, at least logic doesnt allow that.
the sooner he closes the team, the sooner he can get the core of the team corodinated and build the main team around them.
if he has 60 ppl to decide from, he will LOSE TIME considerably, when he could use that time on BUILDING the team.
coz our BIGGEST problem is lack of coordination. and continuous changing of players doesnt help at all.

for the next stage, however, we have a freer hand and luxury to experiment.

**zzgloo** · 05-14-2008, 02:01 PM

They do that in the NFL...it needs just one mounth....
Divide 60 in three teams......and interchange , offense with defense....
let team A offense play with team B defense, and etc.....
Every week, the head coach would eliminate 10 players..The competition will be so tough, and the real talents, and hard workers will show the themselves...and by the end of the camp, all will be in great shape.
It just needs, huge coaching staff...may be 20 coaches.

**maij** · 05-14-2008, 02:23 PM

I don't find the automatic call of legionnaire's for Team Melli camps as either ethical or clever.

The factors that should dictate that are :
1) Current form....not reputation or how many goals he scored a decade ago!
2) Suitability for the line up and game plan, including integration with other team members.
3) Dedication and willingness to be in the team. Hunger and desire to represent his country, which is not necessarily the priority of some of legionnaires.

**Doctor DOOM** · 05-14-2008, 07:23 PM

majid jan, I agree that legioners shd not think they have closed the deal on the starting line up. but they certainly deserve to be among the top 22 roster. unless they are injured or are absolutely horrible.

bahram jan, unfortunately ( or fortunately ) this is not NFL and what goes on there doesnt play here. especially with the time constraints.
the present situation of TM is quite unique and shd be handled very carefully.

**zzgloo** · 05-15-2008, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View Post

bahram jan, unfortunately ( or fortunately ) this is not NFL and what goes on there doesnt play here. especially with the time constraints.
the present situation of TM is quite unique and shd be handled very carefully.

I have always been very impressed with the NFL management...and I believe it is the management at its highest.....,and I know it is only wishful thinking to even dream such job in Iran....

The legioners , it seems to me, are in a strange situation.....and unfortunatly,I think they have become like You and me...in a sence,that Iran is no longer thier HOME !....and I doubt any of them would go back after thier playing years are finished...which will be great loss for Iranian coaching !...more over,..it seems by passage of every day, they are less in tune with Iranian football.....and may have become " MIS_FITS ".both as far as playing style,and as far as psycology...as they seem to have detachted themseleves from what is going on in Iran.

**gol_kuchik** · 05-15-2008, 09:36 PM

Could someone calrify: can the list include other than the 50 announced
in January?

If there is no limit, as many players (including the 5 top socrer, top 5 assisst
leaders and all legioners should be called). As Daei said himself, even bench
warmers in Europe get better training than IPL. But time is short.

BTW, I hope all of you who hated the idea of a "remote coach" cause TM
needed a full time coach agree that was just a trap set by AliAbadi and all
you good people fell for it

No one asked back then, if 7 or 8 of our TM
consists of legioners, wouldn't having a coach that lives in Euorope and
comes to Iran be a big pluse (ok, ok none of them is getting playing time,
but at least the coach could have monitored the training).

My main concern having watched most of the top IPL teams (Perhaps with
exception of Sepahan) is that unfortunately most of our players are what
I call 45 minute players (as best exemplified in WC 2006), but watch PP,
EsEs and most of other IPL teams and they simply can't sustain a 90 minutes
game (including our top score Khalili).

On the plus side, the 3/4 day schedule of IPL has helped get some players in
shape.

Anyways, invite as many as you can and let the hungry one take the job.
The biggest concern I have is team coordination, which will not happen with
all fresh faces, as tempting as the idea of hungry domestic players is.

BTW, Nekounam stated he has not received any invitation from Daei (as of
two days ago, and he did not sound very happy).

**Doctor DOOM** · 05-16-2008, 07:16 AM

^ dast rooye delam nazar baradar !
we never knew we're going to get a visiting coach ANYWAY, in the end !
otherwise I'd have agreed with the foreign one.

but seriously, I thought whoever the coach , he'd have resigned from his club in order to dedicate his time fully to TM. a few games with his club and the club would find a replacement and things would be normal after that.
I had no idea Daei would NOT let go of the club.

I also had no idea that the league commission would be so foolish & stupid to cram so many games in the end. I thought they'd do the more intelligent thing of postponing a few final weeks to the other side of WCQ's.

so in hindsight , we didnt get a good deal by letting clemente go.

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TM is already picked:
26, which is reasonable.
( more than 30-35 would have been absolutely unreasonable, due to LACK OF TIME to assess players and ... )

here are the players:

از سوی علی دایی 26 بازیکن به اردوی تیم ملی فوتبال کشورمان جهت دیدار با امارات دعوت شدند.
به گزارش خبرنگار مهر، اسامی بازیکنان دعوت شده به اردوی تیم ملی فوتبال کشورمان به شرح زیر است:
سیدمهدی رحمتی ، ابراهیم میرزاپور، سیدجلال حسینی ، رحمان رضایی، مرتضی اسدی ، ستار زارع ، هاشم بیگ زاده ، مجتبی شیری ، مجید غلام نژاد ، مهدی مهدوی کیا، جواد نکونام، آندرانیک تیموریان ، مازیار زارع ، ابراهیم صادقی ، سیدمحمد علوی ، میلاد میداودی ، امیر شاپورزاده ، غلامرضا رضایی، محمدرضا خلعتبری، فریدون زندی ، علی کریمی ، مسعود شجاعی ، مجتبی جباری ، رضا عنایتی ، هادی اصغری ، روح الله بیگدلی.

این بازیکنان باید ساعت 30/11 دقیقه صبح روز یکشنبه هفته آینده خود را در کمپ تیم های ملی به کادر فنی معرفی کنند.

قرار است اسامی بازیکنان دعوت شده تیم های سپاهان و پرسپولیس پس از دیدار فردای این دو تیم در رقابتهای لیگ برتر معرفی شود.

new guys that werent there in kuwait game:
asadi - good call for LB post
khalatbari
asghari - scores a lot these days
shiri ( done well at ss-A defense )
shapoorzadeh - good call
Nekunam
Gh. Rezaei
Bigdeli - done extremely well at SS-A
Zandi - finally he got in
mirzapoor - he's back , but in what shape?
and the biggest name ( in terms of news worthiness ) - ENYATAI - good call

no mobaali
no madanchi
no kazemian
no samereh
no VH
no A sadeghi
no ashtiani
no zeneidpoor
no K rahmati

I'd question alavi & sadeghi invites though.
I'm sure we'd have better guys than these two outside this list.

I can only assume he's going to pick aghili, bengar, perhaps hajsafi from sepahan
and pick niki, kaabi, khalili and perhaps nosrati & Va'ezi from pp.

in summation, I think he's changed a LOT of names from the kuwait line up.
he's called a LOT of new guys who werent called for the bahrain-kuwait games.
and he's dropped a few also, with no trials like madanchi, ashtiani, sadeghi, mobaali, rahmati, abasfard, ...
I'm very curious on some of the names dropped and some of the called .

**yashar_fasihnia** · 05-17-2008, 12:59 AM

my understanding of ebrahim sadeghi is that ebrahim sadeghi is a fighter, something like teymourian and hossein kazemi. he isnt as creative as karimi or jabbari, isnt as systematic as zandi, but is a player who runs a lot and pressurized the opponent a lot and has a lil of creativity at the same time helping in offense at times.

so if daei decides to play 4-2-3-1, he will probably be one of the 2 DMs cos of his endless running. maziar zare in my opinion lacks this fighting ability.
karimi, jabbari, navidkia, mobali, shojaei none of them have this attribute which sadeghi has.

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