Approval performances by Ali Daei as the coach

[Hajagha]

In my book, Daei proved that he is the best coach we can get for the Team Melli for now and years to come regardless of the future outcomes.

My reasons:

- His ability to select the best squad, who most of the international coaches will not able to do so because of lack background knowledge.
- His willingness to change when the formation, tactic and or player(s) do not respond, who almost all our previous coaches have not done so.
- His performance during the game for reading the game, bringing the best sub’s at the best time and improving the team performance. What all the previous coaches haven’t done so, an example can be Ciro who was forgetting he can change players. Or Branko who was afraid to change Daei himself.
- Being brave to put aside yesterday’s names that are not in form. Who none of the previous coaches (except Mayeli-Kohan who has lots of other issues) have done so.
- Using the unknown names as the assisting such as Human Afazeli and Gholampour who are among the best personalities in our football and have the today’s knowledge.
- Willing to work for Iran and will be in Iran regardless of his performance.
- His recognition internationally, his education and ability to talk in foreign languages, give Iran some credits. Which all domestic coaches don’t have them.

Based on above, we won’t get a better coach than Daei. But this doesn’t mean we will go on the pitch and destroy all teams. A coach has a limited ability to a team performance and result. It means we will lose, we may even badly lose. Will this be Daei’s fault? Of course not as all the winning won’t go only to Daei’s credit.

We have reached the ceiling of coach's ability with Daei, we can not bring any body to get better performance. If you think otherwise, you are day-dreaming, my friend.

Let’s not destroy our resources when we are disappointed.

Cheers,

[zzgloo]

We have reached the ceiling of coach's ability with Daei, we can not bring any body to get better performance. If you think otherwise, you are day-dreaming, my friend.
Let’s not destroy our resources when we are disappointed.
Cheers,

Hajagha jaan.............
With all due respect, your above two statements, are less of a " supporting the resources " , and more of an " Insult " to the history of football in Iran.

[Hajagha]

Hajagha jaan.............
With all due respect, your above two statements, are less of a " supporting the resources " , and more of an " Insult " to the history of football in Iran.

Why aziz jan? Because I don't think Arsen Vanger will be Iran's coach in upcoming years? Or I don't think we are hidding Henry and C. Ronaldo in our left back pocket? Or Maybe I missed it when S.Arabia and Iran became joint World Champs? Can you enlighten me with the history of Iran’s football, Maybe I am missing some thing.

No aziz jan. I am pretty aware of Iranian football. Your chain is as strong as your "weakest link". And I tell you from what I have seen from Daei in the last few months, he is not your weakest link. Then you got to the ceiling of the ability of a coach. If you don't get the result you like, fix your "weakest link" whatever it is.

By the way, you were quite quick to label me with "INSULT". Where did I insult? Oh, where I said “don't destroy the guy reputation?” Sorry then, go and destroy the guy’s life with the first goal Iran concede.

Cheers,

[zzgloo]

Why aziz jan? Because I don't think Arsen Vanger will be Iran's coach in upcoming years? Or I don't think we are hidding Henry and C. Ronaldo in our left back pocket? Or Maybe I missed it when S.Arabia and Iran became joint World Champs? Can you enlighten me with the history of Iran’s football, Maybe I am missing some thing.
No aziz jan. I am pretty aware of Iranian football. Your chain is as strong as your "weakest link". And I tell you from what I have seen from Daei in the last few months, he is not your weakest link. Then you got to the ceiling of the ability of a coach. If you don't get the result you like, fix your "weakest link" whatever it is.
By the way, you were quite quick to label me with "INSULT". Where did I insult? Oh, where I said “don't destroy the guy reputation?” Sorry then, go and destroy the guy’s life with the first goal Iran concede.
Cheers,

Hajagha E Aziz......Based on my little knowledge of you, (which is all positive ! ), I do not know whether to argue with you , or offer to buy you a Chilled mog of Canadian Molsen ?
May be the reason I used The word " Insult ", was because , I senced a little Sarcasm and patronizeing about iranian football in your statements....Although I could be wrong , or, may be this is the way, you show your frustration in your own way..I do not know.
We may have elementary football compaire to Holland and Italy, but we are feared by 200 other countries in football .
We may have stupid system and management , but we are called " Mighty " in news papers of UAE,Syria,and Jordan,etc.
We may have lower standard of liveing, but we do not, and should not consider ourseleves as lesser being than those who happen to be born in a different geographical location.
The day, we accept we deserve less, is the day we have given up !

[Hajagha]

Hajagha E Aziz......Based on my little knowledge of you, (which is all positive ! ), I do not know whether to argue with you , or offer to buy you a Chilled mog of Canadian Molsen ?
May be the reason I used The word " Insult ", was because , I senced a little Sarcasm and patronizeing about iranian football in your statements....Although I could be wrong , or, may be this is the way, you show your frustration in your own way..I do not know.
We may have elementary football compaire to Holland and Italy, but we are feared by 200 other countries in football .
We may have stupid system and management , but we are called " Mighty " in news papers of UAE,Syria,and Jordan,etc.
We may have lower standard of liveing, but we do not, and should not consider ourseleves as lesser being than those who happen to be born in a different geographical location.
The day, we accept we deserve less, is the day we have given up !

[maij]

Great Post Reza Jan.

I was initially quite concerned with the appointment of Daei , simply because of his low experience in coaching , but he proved my concerns unwarranted by the way he conducted himself and did a great job qualifying for the final rounds of World Cup qualifiers with a game on hand after a shaky start.

Don't get me wrong , Daei is still at the beginning of his coaching career and is yet to emulate his great playing scoring feats , but the signs are good that he will be as competitive, as professional and as motivated as a coach as he was a player.

One thing I like to add to Daei's attributes that perhaps it is not too complimentary to him.

Daei is one hell of a "Poost Kloft" ...... and to be honest , this is exactly what the Iranians need. A guy who has guts , does not give a SH** about the mafia surrounding football , has stamina and perseverance.

Team Melli does not need the "Nice Guy" attitude , otherwise players , fans and the media will piss on him. They can't do that with Daei...he is a Raging Bull..... Bless him.

[zzgloo]

Your were right aziz-e man, it was a bit sarcasm in my post as I was surprised to see your post with the message that “I have no idea where I am standing”.
As you might know me, I don’t talk from my butt. So, when I say we can’t get a better coach than Daei, I knew all the things you said out there. So, please don’t treat me like a moron.
Back to the topic. I understand your logic to expect better but the question is “can we get them?”
I again encourage you to think about “the weakest link” statement. If you think a bit deeper, you won’t bring some advices such as “we do not, and should not consider ourseleves as lesser being than those who happen to be born in a different geographical location.” And “The day, we accept we deserve less, is the day we have given up!” which has no use but frame them and post them on the wall.
You don’t agree with me? Fine, bring an example from past or future and say “you are wrong”.
Time to get out of the office and go to a sport bar and watch Italy-France buddy.
Cheers,

Cheers ......
I did not understand where you got that statement from : " I have no Idea where I am standing "......some one els might have said that , not me.
Haji jaan....I have no intention for you to abbandon your logic, as I understand it as well , which is very self sustaining, realistic., and one way to look at things.......
But to answer you if we can " Get them better ? ".......
The only reason Iran has better football than India....or some other countries in our part of the world....is not just because we have more people,nor is it because we have longer history ,and it is defenetly not because we have better system..............It is because : " we want to be good at it more than they do ".....please, do note , this is not just for posters, or be hanged......it is the reality.........." Khastan , tavanestan Ast ".

[Martin-Reza]

Very good analysis...for a Canadian

[Kaveh]

Credit to Daei, I believe he can achieve a lot, be ghole maroof janamesho dareh.

[Hadi]

100% agree with Haji.

Under this Management and government, we should be glad we dont have Mayelikohan.

[Hajagha]

Thanks guys.

As Agha Majid said, Daei has a lot to improve.

But this post was not to praise Daei. My intention was to say "enough of coaching concern", we've got the best we can, however "this best" (Daei) can improve himself and learn from his mistakes (or not). This doesn't change the equation that he is still and will be the best option for us for quite a while.

Saying all that, I like to see him talk a bit more mature specailly in the interviews. Also, bring himself a bit higher level and don't get into argument with the journalists. One more, I can see he is getting fat, try to stay in shape too.

[zzgloo]

There is so much " wishful thinking ", and " Well wishing " about our coaching staff here ......
I hope my fellow members here know those two ,wishes, are not the same.
Although we want all the success for our TM, but should not take the up-comeing task, ( against,much improved, japan, Australia,Korea,etc ) so lightly.
Our currant TM is lot weaker than TMs of yester-years , ...Our coaching is much weaker and less experinced ,with a touch of Damageing arrogance.................and the time is not on our side.
We should wish well, but we can not be as confident.

[Hajagha]

There is so much " wishful thinking ", and " Well wishing " about our coaching staff here ......
I hope my fellow members here know those two ,wishes, are not the same.
Although we want all the success for our TM, but should not take the up-comeing task, ( against,much improved, japan, Australia,Korea,etc ) so lightly.
Our currant TM is lot weaker than TMs of yester-years , ...Our coaching is much weaker and less experinced ,with a touch of Damageing arrogance.................and the time is not on our side.
We should wish well, but we can not be as confident.

[zzgloo]

Your link between “coaching staff” and “current TM being weaker” is exactly what I insisted you to re-think about “weakest link” statement by me.
I don’t think any body here (or at least not me) saying that this TM is the strongest TM we have ever had. It might be even the weakest one in the last 10 years as I wouldn’t be surprised. But this is not the point of having the strongest coaching staff in the last 10 years or upcoming years.
Our weakness is not about the coaching staff. There are so many other issues that influence the team result and performance. For example, in the last 10 years, we have had a team that 4 Asian players of the year and another 3 candidates actively involved in the team, now our squad are barely good enough for having a candidate. We had all time best keeper, all time best scorer, all time best goal assisting player and all time best midfielder in the team. We had a player who could have changed the face of the game single handed. Now, we don’t have none of the above.
You may execute the coaching staff for our shortcoming, I don’t.
Cheers,

Haji jaan...............thanks for your thoughtful response........
Lets examine the relation between ' The coaching staff ', and ' currant TM being weaker '....or if anyone executing the coaching staff .

If I understand you well, you are saying,if the TM is not as strong as before, it is not Ali daei's fault ......and we should not blame him..........Did I understand you well ?

I ,however, am saying : " Is n't ,NOW, specificaly, the right time to have better coach ? "

Or is it the time " To nurture our resources ? "....although even Ali Daei was not the first chioce and its selection was under a very ambiguese circumstances.

Ali Daei has served his country well....and he probably has good future in coaching as well......

But, we remember the WC time, and what we thought we were needing....a top of the line coach.....we remember how other countries were scrambling to get the best coach.....

Did you see the coaching comparison between metsu of UAE and Daei ?....I know we won...but did you notice the value of coaching, with UAE's inferiore personel ?...............

Daei did not have as much coaching problem with the Local Syrian coach....but he is going to go against, chess playing , battle toughened coaches in the next round............with admitedly inferior TM compair to our past.

The situation requires us the most to get the better coach, as the nation is not ready to waist 4 more years for a on the job training of a coach.

For the same reason, you think we should not blame coaching now, ...we desperately need better coaching, now ! where the real battle of coaching is going to start.

[Ali Chicago]

Haji what do you mean by Approval Performance ........ Does it mean above average? Adequate, very good, excellent? Don't mean to be neat picking but I never saw apporval used like that? Did you mean to say "Movafagh" in Farsi?

I am not a Daie fan (from his playing year even). But team played better than UAE game and that in itself is a positive thing. Time still is needed to judge Daie as a successful coach or not? But it is a good sign to see the team palying better. So that is a postive sign.

One big unkown in my mind is that and I really dont' know the answer is , better performance by our team was due to improvement in our team, or Syria team was very weaker even from the team that played the first game against us. Second half it seemed they disappeared. Don't forget the same Syria team lost 4-2 to Kuwait the weak before.

Trying to remain positive and hopefully it is all due to our team improvement.

One more thing, I am not sure , Daie putting away all the old names is purely football based or setteling accounts?!!!! It was no secret that Kia, Hashemian and specailly Karimi were his harsehest Critics in WC 2006!

ON a lighter note, I notice Haji is very sensetive toward fat folks, Always getting on Nikki's gut case and now Daie is gaining weight, which is strange kind of. Since in old days Haji's were fan of the topol mopols. But then again , this Haji is westernized (corrupted by the Tahajoom Farhangi, so that would explain his taste for petite or in shape folks!!!