Approval performances by Ali Daei as the coach

[kaz]

When I accuse someone of something , I better have a proven valid point same goes for the case when I criticize someone or compliment him. When you refer to someone as the Mafia , which is downright degrading , then it is obvious that there is more to it than pure sporting analysis.

Majid khan, Daei HIMSELF said that whoever gets the job has the "biggest lobby" - i.e. band/mafia.

Guess who got it?

We all know how he got it too. So why deny here that Daei is backed by the government?

[maij]

Majid jaan..........
We are not clans,....
we are not squads......
We are not haters......
we are not bashers......
We do not even know each other....
Do n't you think, you are little out of line ?
We are intelegent individuals who think different than you do .
How come all of the sudden your view is the correct one ?
Only because it seems wise ?
Or is it because, you and 5 other staffs here decieded so ?
what " signle evidence of credebility " has your clan offered ?
Please stop branding people as " Squad of haters ".....
Go ahead , and think the way you want....I personaly would congradulate you for your, collective PFDC stand of yours for any TM head coach...
But stop , insulting people's intelegence, and branding them as if they are lesser than you.
If you disapprove of some one's reasoning, just talk to him, or tell him what you have to say.....or just ignore him.
What piece of evidence have you or your clan has offered about Daei's qualification ?.......................
Other than with him we have reached the ceiling of a coach's ability ,which you considered as a " great post ".
We have talked about this bad habbit of all PFDC staffs, but you guys are just too much,and have taken your positions too seriousely.
DO NOT GENERALIZE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only reason that makes you write with such arrogance , is because you are a PFDC staff......
And that , I assure you, will not make your or any PFDC staff's wrong , right.

[maij]

Now , that is more like it.

Our success is not strictly measurable by a "PASS" or "FAIL" grade.

In a test you may score 50/100 and pass but keep in mind the NEXT test you will have to score 65/100 to pass. This is the main argument in a small analogy.

Daei may have scraped through a rather easy group where our superiority is evident: we play crap, they still fear us and defend in their own half and we win.

Fine ..... I have no real argument on that except I tend to disagree on the easy group , and agree on play crap except for the last 2 games.

Why it's important that his "Mafia" bazi come to the fore is not to bash him, it's exemplify that our best players have PROBLEMS with Daei...mainly due to DAEI himself. In the next group such players will be needed to beat much tougher opponents.

I think MAFIA is a offensive statement , and I am not too keen to discuss those politics , simply because (A) I have no insight of the inner circles but (B) most importantly , I am not interested in the politics. I follow football for other reasons.

All I can say in defense of Daei in this case , is that it is natural that IFF, PEO or any authority to appoint someone to their liking. You would do the same if you were a Boss, Agha Kaz. I have done the same. Do you seriously think that Alex Fegueson will play or select a player he does not like in Man Utd? Di you know that in anger he throw a boot at Beckham , the jewel of the crown of English football , and then decided to sell him? Not that I am applauding such act , but personal relationship is important in teamwork. If you can not get on with someone , then you lost the plot. but again back to Daei ..there are always 2 sides to a story , what makes you think Daei is the culprit and not those "Yaghi" players ?

Yes, Troussier is not a guarantee, neither is Hiddink. But you take the best of what you can get...not the most inferior candidate. Daei gets a PASS grade for this round but he is out of his element and if we can we should be looking for the better coaches that are still available to us. We won't do that, because AGAIN, Daei is highly connected.

Right...but the post was about the approval rating , which you said Daei gets a PASS. Whether he is the right candidate , if we need someone better than him ( the answer in my opinion , is not right now , but definitely YES) is another argument.

This is essentially the Branko scenario in just a different form. MANY people here mentioned the inferiority of our performances - even point by point analysis (which is 'tangible') yet many here remained blindly devoted. They blindly pointed at 'results'.

Again , performance is an issue , but the end result is very much THE TANGIBLE most important issue at this stage of the game. To me , it was very clear that the more the team trained together , the better was the harmony and the result. Of course no guarantee that the trend will continue , but one remains hopeful. Employing Branko's method is no shame to me , he was the most successful coach in the history of Iran...That is tangible.

The shit hit the fan in the World Cup itself where we came LAST to a team whose players DID NOT EVEN HAVE CLUBS. I, for one, do not want a repeat. If people are actually arguing that if we play like we did in the FIRST qualifying group we will pass the LAST one then it's going to be hard to convince you or bring something 'tangible'.

Yes dear Kaz , but who was at fault ? Dadkan ? Branko ? Daei? Karimi ? etc..or a combination of all???

Like I said , success or failures in football is combination of factors not isolated, although one can argue that a single factor would have th most effect.
To credit Daei as the sole and the only factor behind the qualification to the next round is as ridiculous as blaming him solely , if Team Melli did not pass.

There are hundreds of issues that mars the better progress of football in Iran , and I think PFDC forum we had very valuable discussions about it. The point that I believe in , is that we as fans , need to give credit where credit is due. The mechanism of appointing this coach or selection of that player is something that we never have a say in , but prosecuting the coach because of that wrong process , is not ethical either...Two wrongs does not make a right.


Thank you.

[maij]

Majid khan, Daei HIMSELF said that whoever gets the job has the "biggest lobby" - i.e. band/mafia.

Guess who got it?

We all know how he got it too. So why deny here that Daei is backed by the government?

I did not deny that Fact Agha Kaz. Hell , in Iran if one of those rishi's don't like you for one reason or another , you are a spent force , no matter how qualified you are.

Someone I know told me that his cousin a graduate from USA and a Master Degree holder in Civil Engineering , eventually lost his job as a senior planning Engineer , after some rishi noticed that he does not pray (regularly) in the ministry! ( it is a long story , but shows the power of some people and ideologies that govern the country.)

BUT...Although like I said earlier I don't really like to focus into politics , I sometimes wonder if Daei was the darling of the government , why was he not selected right in the first place??

[kaz]

Now , that is more like it.

Fine ..... I have no real argument on that except I tend to disagree on the easy group , and agree on play crap except for the last 2 games.

Fair enough.

I think MAFIA is a offensive statement , and I am not too keen to discuss those politics , simply because (A) I have no insight of the inner circles but (B) most importantly , I am not interested in the politics. I follow football for other reasons.

All I can say in defense of Daei in this case , is that it is natural that IFF, PEO or any authority to appoint someone to their liking. You would do the same if you were a Boss, Agha Kaz. I have done the same. Do you seriously think that Alex Fegueson will play or select a player he does not like in Man Utd? Di you know that in anger he throw a boot at Beckham , the jewel of the crown of English football , and then decided to sell him? Not that I am applauding such act , but personal relationship is important in teamwork. If you can not get on with someone , then you lost the plot. but again back to Daei ..there are always 2 sides to a story , what makes you think Daei is the culprit and not those "Yaghi" players ?

But you are entirely wrong on this matter as it IS a big deal. The government, due to FIFA regulations should have NO say on who is the coach. IF PEO/Aliabadi/AN himself want a coach it is out of order. It is a politicised decision that thas no place in the realms of sport.

I do have some inkling into the workings of this football institution and I know (it's quite obvious even if you don't have any foot in the workings) that the better candidates were put aside because they see Daei as one of their own - Iranian, religious, what have you. Normally, I wouldn't fret too much as this is invariably always the case. HOWEVER, this time there really were a long list of candidates and we shot ourselves in the foot.

Right...but the post was about the approval rating , which you said Daei gets a PASS. Whether he is the right candidate , if we need someone better than him ( the answer in my opinion , is not right now , but definitely YES) is another argument.

If approval is merely us qualifying then it is a matter of fact. So because we qualified = approval? I think not. I gave him a pass, but not my approval.

Again , performance is an issue , but the end result is very much THE TANGIBLE most important issue at this stage of the game. To me , it was very clear that the more the team trained together , the better was the harmony and the result. Of course no guarantee that the trend will continue , but one remains hopeful. Employing Branko's method is no shame to me , he was the most successful coach in the history of Iran...That is tangible.

Branko the most successful coach...yeah right. Could you please mention a title he won? Keep in mind, when he won the Asian Games in 2002 it was converted into a youth tourney.

For me, it is a shame. I want Iran to progress. With limited resources we managed to push above our weight in 98 and in 2002 we played much better football than we ever did for 2006 but the qualifying route was much more difficult. We have been regressing for a good 4 years now. Branko was apart of that failure. But this is another discussion best left to another thread.

Yes dear Kaz , but who was at fault ? Dadkan ? Branko ? Daei? Karimi ? etc..or a combination of all???

It is mainly Dadkan's and Branko's fault. Dadkan for insisting with Branko despite the overwhelming opposition and Branko for putting together a very unfit, disjointed squad that in both major tournaments he coached had infighting. Ultimately, it is his failure.

The players are the pieces on the chess board, the coach is the chess player.

Like I said , success or failures in football is combination of factors not isolated, although one can argue that a single factor would have th most effect.
To credit Daei as the sole and the only factor behind the qualification to the next round is as ridiculous as blaming him solely , if Team Melli did not pass.

That maybe so, but it is almost invariably and ultimately his doing. He chose the young players, he changed the formations/tactics/coaching assistants and if we were to have failed it was based on his decisions. Whether or not the players played poorly is aside to the fact that, for example, many of them were new or inexperienced; raising the question of why experiment when you are neither getting the results nor are the performances matching.

There are hundreds of issues that mars the better progress of football in Iran , and I think PFDC forum we had very valuable discussions about it. The point that I believe in , is that we as fans , need to give credit where credit is due. The mechanism of appointing this coach or selection of that player is something that we never have a say in , but prosecuting the coach because of that wrong process , is not ethical either...Two wrongs does not make a right.
Thank you.

Credit where it's due: Daei helped us qualify. But the buck stops there. We need to be much better and the questions are:

- is the team in the right hands?
- are there better people to lead?
- is Daei's poor relationship with our stars going to affect us?
- etc.

It's all an evaluation. Right now, if one of those listed coaches were interested I'd hand the team over to them. The qualification in where Daei passed was not a real test to our country and the fact that we scraped by isn't impressive.

The only shining light for me is the 2nd half of the Syria game and even that is not as impressive as it sounds, it's just relatively a lot better than the crap we played prior. If he builds on that, very good. If he doesn't, then don't call people Daei-bashers/haters/clan/etc. There are very good reasons to criticise.

[kaz]

BUT...Although like I said earlier I don't really like to focus into politics , I sometimes wonder if Daei was the darling of the government , why was he not selected right in the first place??

Who knows? Possibly because there would have been a large backlash and critique of him even being a nomination. Remember, Daei was not a candidate or in the running. He was essentially appointed in the 90th minute .

[maij]

But you are entirely wrong on this matter as it IS a big deal. The government, due to FIFA regulations should have NO say on who is the coach. IF PEO/Aliabadi/AN himself want a coach it is out of order. It is a politicised decision that thas no place in the realms of sport.

I might have not myself clear. I am totally against Government intervention in Iran's football. By God , I have littered this forum with my viewpoint. The politics within the IFF and football in general does not interest me.

I do have some inkling into the workings of this football institution and I know (it's quite obvious even if you don't have any foot in the workings) that the better candidates were put aside because they see Daei as one of their own - Iranian, religious, what have you. Normally, I wouldn't fret too much as this is invariably always the case. HOWEVER, this time there really were a long list of candidates and we shot ourselves in the foot.

Better candidates , perhaps.... And since you question Branko's record , tell me then...Out of the available Iranian candidates , who has a track record of winning anything for Team Melli or other national team. I might have missed something.

If approval is merely us qualifying then it is a matter of fact. So because we qualified = approval? I think not. I gave him a pass, but not my approval.

OK.... Kind of the same cliche' .. "YES , he has done BUT..... "

Branko the most successful coach...yeah right. Could you please mention a title he won? Keep in mind, when he won the Asian Games in 2002 it was converted into a youth tourney.

He is what the coaches record for Team Melli:

http://www.teammelli.com/Coaches/coaches.htm

Tell me who is the most successful , then

It is mainly Dadkan's and Branko's fault. Dadkan for insisting with Branko despite the overwhelming opposition and Branko for putting together a very unfit, disjointed squad that in both major tournaments he coached had infighting. Ultimately, it is his failure.

I hasten to disagree.

The players are the pieces on the chess board, the coach is the chess player.

In chess the players (pieces) are static unless moved by the coach ( the chess player). In football the players are dynamic and could very well move against the coaches wish and instruction. Sorry Kaz , but that is a weak analogy.

That maybe so, but it is almost invariably and ultimately his doing. He chose the young players, he changed the formations/tactics/coaching assistants and if we were to have failed it was based on his decisions. Whether or not the players played poorly is aside to the fact that, for example, many of them were new or inexperienced; raising the question of why experiment when you are neither getting the results nor are the performances matching.

Because he saw it fit to bring young , inexperienced players and like we say " Javab dad". I am not a professional coach , but I would be hesitant to do what Daei did , however , he made the final round which means he has done something right.

Beside , cast you mind a few month back...What did the rich and famous of Iran football do in Asia 2007 ? OH...NO .please ...don't start on Ghalenoei ( although I know that you have a soft spot for Amir Khan)

Credit where it's due: Daei helped us qualify. But the buck stops there. We need to be much better and the questions are:

- is the team in the right hands? Probably , can't say for certain

- are there better people to lead? Definitely YES , but not at this crossroad

- is Daei's poor relationship with our stars going to affect us? Hell NO... I don't care less about any player (Even it was Daei himself) who refuses to play for Team Melli under any pretext.

It's all an evaluation. Right now, if one of those listed coaches were interested I'd hand the team over to them. The qualification in where Daei passed was not a real test to our country and the fact that we scraped by isn't impressive.

The only shining light for me is the 2nd half of the Syria game and even that is not as impressive as it sounds, it's just relatively a lot better than the crap we played prior. If he builds on that, very good. If he doesn't, then don't call people Daei-bashers/haters/clan/etc. There are very good reasons to criticise.

After Clemente and Artur Goerge saga's I doubt that your list is anything near practical. I don't think these coaches will be to keen to work and live in Iran , if they have lucrative much more easier tasks available.

On the second part , of course people will criticize the team and the coaches if they failed and I will be amongst the first of them .>>>>THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION......Judge on the end result , then predict the future...

[Doctor DOOM]

Aghayoon, no need to get hot under the collar.

we all want the best for TM, as everyone agrees. only our approach may differ a bit. much like the christian and moslem or jew or hindu do their own method of praying which ultimately leads to ONE god.

and the differences are only in "how" we want this success, not the success itself.
HOW MUCH we are ready to accept or put up.

now, if we take the topic as a simple question, which is does daei have your approval with respect to advancing from the group?
YES. we all agree. simply becoz he has advanced.

but majid jan, we have passing and we have passing.
if I get 10 out of 20, I've passed. much like the guy who gets 18.
but which one leaves his parents & supporters confident of further & continual success ?

and I think we all agree passing the 12th grade is one thing. passing the university exam is whole different ball game and you cant do it with the kind of knowledge that gets you a mere "pass mark" in 12th grade.

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kazem, armin and bahram also shd remember Daei didnt have time to work with the team.

more than half of the blame shd befall the IFF and aliabadi for all those things we all know.
but some of it , also, is his own ego ( not letting go of saipa and ... )

one thing that may support his claims is the gradual positive trend in TM's results.
performance QUALITY ? that's a different matter

we started with a loss against bahrain, draw at kuwait, draw with uae, a 1-0 win AT uae, a 2-0 win AT syria. so the graph is looking up...... result-wise.

does that mean our following opponents are going to let us continue this trend?
I highly doubt it, coz they are of a different quality.
imagine if we get a group like : australia, japan, bahrain, uzbekistan, Iran
I dare anyone here to come and tell me what we did in the first stage would be enough against these guys.
anyone ?
now some of us believe Daei is not as experienced as he shd to counter the big guns. coz the first stage is one thing, we all know when it comes to the last stage, teams really gear up and push their limits.


so both sides have valid arguments. no need to deride one side or the other.

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btw, majid jan, I have problem understanding the phrase "most successful" .
is that based on stats and numbers?
coz if it is so, then branko cant hold a candle to MOHAJERANI.

if that is based on QUALITY , then he cant be even mentioned in the same sentence as more than half TM coaches.

so lets not be overtly generous selectively, even if it helps make our case.

[zzgloo]

I am only asking people who have negatives points to validate it with reason and proof...Is that too much to ask ?

When I accuse someone of something , I better have a proven valid point same goes for the case when I criticize someone or compliment him.

majid jaan.....( I just do n't say jaan , I do mean it )
I have thought about these latest exchanges, and I have come to the conclusion, that we both " Az Kooreh dar raftim " !
As you remember, I was very appolegetic with my comments about Daei,and I was about to stop saying anything negative about Daei,for the sake of TM up-comeing games,and unity,untill your last ( In my opinion ) offensive post...

I think , you felt like you had been bomborded with negative comments about daei,and to you people said those things,while with no evidence, as if they know it all...and that bothered you.

I have always appriciated the hard work of all staffs, except only one particular case, which I have been convinsed they abuse thier position.

Going back to the above reference from your post :
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" I am asking people who have negative points to validate it reason and proof......is that too much to ask "
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1---- Are you asking this question, as a member here, or as a PFDC staff ?

A: If it is as a member, no one here generalizes number of people all together, and call them " clans,Squads,bashers,Haters ".
B: if it is as a Staff, where are your proofs about every comments of every single person who said something about daei ?.since you put them all in one bascket.

2----Yes, it is too much to ask................we are talking about football fans,not university students...as long as they do not insult or use bad words,..no fan in the world speaks according to " The dialectical materialism ".

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And the secound part of your post:
" When I Accuse someone of something,I better have proven valid point,same goes for the case when I critisize or complement him "
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Did you have that about ,without any exception, all of the clan members ?
Did you remember that in all your own posts, or posts of fellow staff members ?
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I said, Daei speaks badly with media..............what kind of proof do you want ?
I said He does not have licence..............what kind of proof do you want.
I said, He does not have experince.........?
I said,He does not use all the good players while he can......?
I said, He was out coahced with metsu.......?
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You said very nicely, in one of your posts, when you said...." Niether you are right,nor I...and truth usualy lies some where in betwen " .
I know you are man of honor,and more civlized than most......................

I know, I have made mistakes...and I know I am not very logical......, I also " as kooreh dar miram "......Forgive me .....
I Have not lost any respect from you.....may be even it was added alittle.....since I have found out you are human like myself !

[The-Red]

^that's why this forum is the only place to discuss such controversial issues...people always find a way to keep it calm and cool heads prevails...I enjoy reading these discussions.

btw, I have said this so many times, but I wish somone like Dr Zolfagharnasab was considered to work with the team, or have daie work under him, which of course we all know daie won't work under anyone and at the age of 39 he has said he only will be there as a headcoach or not at all...!

[kaz]

I might have not myself clear. I am totally against Government intervention in Iran's football. By God , I have littered this forum with my viewpoint. The politics within the IFF and football in general does not interest me.

Then you are against Ali Daei's promotion?

Better candidates , perhaps.... And since you question Branko's record , tell me then...Out of the available Iranian candidates , who has a track record of winning anything for Team Melli or other national team. I might have missed something.

Winning things? Mohajerani, heard of him by any chance?

And even statistically speaking he is inferior to GN.

OK.... Kind of the same cliche' .. "YES , he has done BUT..... "

Not at all. Do I approve of him as a whole? No. Do I approve of him in the qualifiers? No. Do I approve of getting through the first round, yes. I do not approve of him in any sense that relies on his coaching ability.

He is what the coaches record for Team Melli:

http://www.teammelli.com/Coaches/coaches.htm

Tell me who is the most successful , then

Record? GN only has 1 official loss in all matches.

In qualifiers and tournaments of any kind, GN has 0 losses. Branko has 4 (just off the top of my head).

Define success. In my definition, neither was a success and neither would be eligible to lead us now.

In chess the players (pieces) are static unless moved by the coach ( the chess player). In football the players are dynamic and could very well move against the coaches wish and instruction. Sorry Kaz , but that is a weak analogy.

But they aren't static once they are used. When you play your rook you know the ability of your rook. Likewise, when you play a 37 year old forward you know the ability of said forward. Like chess, you build an attack on the pieces available to you. The order/way you use them is your tactic. If you lose, your tactic failed.

Because he saw it fit to bring young , inexperienced players and like we say " Javab dad". I am not a professional coach , but I would be hesitant to do what Daei did , however , he made the final round which means he has done something right.

See, this is what I mean when I say we have reverted back to Branko arguments. The ends justify the means? No. We got through because we are just that much superior to our opposition. Not because it paid to use youngsters who didn't know what they were doing. We performed poorer because of them (apart from Rezaei, I'd say) not better.

Beside , cast you mind a few month back...What did the rich and famous of Iran football do in Asia 2007 ? OH...NO .please ...don't start on Ghalenoei ( although I know that you have a soft spot for Amir Khan)

I only called for GN's chance in the cup and that is where the buck ended with him. Unless he won it or some equivalent feat there would be no backing for me for him to take over these qualifiers.

Because the person who qualifies through here is likely to take us into the WC. We may scrape through here but the WC is a different kettle of fish altogether - again, Branko scenario.

- is the team in the right hands? Probably , can't say for certain

Probably based on a few games?

- are there better people to lead? Definitely YES , but not at this crossroad

Why not? We do not have matches for a while and are not in any danger.

- is Daei's poor relationship with our stars going to affect us? Hell NO... I don't care less about any player (Even it was Daei himself) who refuses to play for Team Melli under any pretext.

Daei is the cause of the friction. Let's not make it sound like the others are putting themselves above the team. Did Karimi or Mobali refuse to play? They are simply not being picked.

What one should also worry about is that his sensitive persona may get more of our stars on his wrong side. Such a coach, when you add all the other negative things, is just not worth it especially if all his positives are "maybes".

After Clemente and Artur Goerge saga's I doubt that your list is anything near practical. I don't think these coaches will be to keen to work and live in Iran , if they have lucrative much more easier tasks available.

Artur Jorge could have taken the side and it was Aliabadi's propaganda that kept him out. Clemente, even if we say we don't want a remote control coach could still have been with us. Troussier and Verbeek did not have those problems with being in Iran. Especially Troussier who is a Muslim convert who has coached more dire countries than ours.

On the second part , of course people will criticize the team and the coaches if they failed and I will be amongst the first of them .>>>>THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION......Judge on the end result , then predict the future...

End result is what? 50/100 is a poor score for a Student that gets 70/100 regularly. Yes, both are passes but we know what the student is capable of so 50/100 is a poor score. Change his tutor.

[Ali Chicago]

Many interesting arguments, but what baffles me the most is those anti-Daei clan , who have NOT offered a single evidence of credibility in their arguments on the subject matter. NOT ONE SINGLE fact that proves that Daei is a failure so far. Instead of indulging in credible arguments, what we get is a series of accusations and lots of IFs and BUTs. Any success is due to “LUCK” and playing “WEAK” teams!
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Watch the game Iran played against Kuwait in Azadi. No need to watch any further for proof. Aftab aamad daleele aftab.

Baba… I will join the “Daei Hate Squad” as well , but provide me something that is reasonable , tangible , concrete instead of insulting my intelligence. If one admits “ Yes , I have no evidence , and I know am speculating , but Daei is still an AS****” , then we need to relegate this forum to the boys squad and Lajbazi party.

No dadash, no one is in the so called "Daie hate Squad" but no one is in the "Daie Love Squad" either. He is teh coach and we simplay see his work and judge him based on that.

Actually in the long term, this is something that destroys Daie. Time will show Agha Majid. Let god forbid team doesn't make it past the second WC qualification and you will see emotions will be 100 times worst that the somewhat unjustified hate that was directed toward Daie after WC 2006.

On a more serious note, maybe what you are expecting from everyone else is unrelaistic. What do you expect from F+ member to come and here and praise Daie!!!!???
No one here insulting Daie (at least I didn't see any in F+), so why do you use "Daie Hate Squad". Hate is a very strong word and if you look in an English dictionary you see there are so many other words like indiffrent, neutral, luke warm, unenthsiastic, critical, disapprove, disagree. All of these words can describe the reaction of many people toward Daie's performance. Why did you use "Daie Hate Squad". Are you trying to silence any sound of disagreement with Mr. Daie? What do you want us to become "Payroo Khat Daie now".!!!!! and don't take a peep and just praise the man?? Would be any F+ thread then? After each game we come here and post Daie was great, team played great, Sadeghi's position was great, Sadeghi is a great player, for all practical purposes we need to play with three DMs (Sadeghi, Ando and Nekoo)? Is that what you would liek to see?

Well, from the generation that was raised by the moto of Khoda Shah Meehan (note shah is before Meehan even), and then "Payroo khat so called Emam Khomaini", one can't expect to see the disagreement and critcisem as what it is and uses labeling "Daie Hate Squad".

Without roo dar vaysee, Agha Majid, it is really disappointing to see this kind of attitude from someone who past thirty years been outside Iran and didnt' live under the Mullas dictatorship. From someone like that, one expects he can accept certian level of criticisem (justified or not) and doesn't label the critics as "Daie Hate Sqaud"