Kia, Karimi, Hashemian, Rahman Rezai

[The-Red]

Sadeghi is a fix starter because Daie knows him well and he is comfortable with having him around, not based on sadeghi's ability as a DM, CM, GM, or whatever M!

[Doctor DOOM]

so armin jan, just becoz a coach feels comfortable with a player, even if he's performing terribly, is enough ?

I can understand if the coach has two choices, X & Y of more or less similar abilities and parameters ( while both are playing well, and are in form ) and he picks the one he is more "comfortable" with.

but shdnt sadeghi's pathetic displays have some impact on this decision?

I'm comfy with this guy and will essentially reduce the team to 10 men, by ignoring how terribly he performs ??

look. I'd take that at club level.
I couldnt care less if such decisions are made at club level.
but TM is a different prospect. you HAVE TO make sure ALL ur decisions are correct, based on form and merit. NOT personal feelings such as likes or dislikes.
that's why I applauded GN's decision to call up samereh despite their personal disputes and squabbles.
THAT attitude is what we need at TM. a coach who puts his personal matters BELOW that of the team's.
and I'm sorry to say , although I was always a daei fan while he was a player ( you know it first hand , with our debates and discussions from those days ), him as TM coach is not turning out to be an entirely satisfying prospect!
he is showing quite a few worrying aspects that, to me, shd not be seen at NATIONAL TEAM LEVEL.

[Martin-Reza]

We dont have any better for DM? Haha. How about Teymourian and Nekounam? Maybe you over-looked them?
Simply put, our midfield is our deepest asset, and to hand a starting spot to this nobody is really a shame. I cant believe you defend him like this Martin, maybe we are watching different matches, but this guy is complete trash. TRASH

Come on, don't act stupid now. Of course top choice as backup for the two.

[The-Red]

DD jan I never approved of Sadeghi playing a 90 min game or be a starter...I think he is a decent player and for sure should be given a chance and be tried out, but playing him as a starter is just not what he deserves in my opinion...He is a good bench player and good to come for certain game situations where the team needs to add to its middlefield capability and a physical player who can do that for 20-30 min by getting into battles, certainly not a starter for TM though.

[Doctor DOOM]

^ that's all I wanted to hear.
for starter position, we have players far better than him.

be it DM : nekunam, ando
I dare say given his recent form, since not many players can retain their top form for long periods, and his form has visibly dropped drastically, rahmati or kazemi, who are in far better shape then him.
agreed?

for CM/OM, we have the likes of Jabbari, shojaei, ( Karimi , mobaali if daei stops his personal vendetta ) and even Zandi, who are better than sadeghi ( at least in his present form ... since some ppl dont like to face the truth)

for RM, we have kia, kaabi, kazemian ( if daei gets off satan's donkey ) who are clearly superior to him.


( anyway you look at it, sadeghi cannot be in the top 3-4 players for any of these positions. especially in his present form. ANY. WAY. YOU. LOOK. AT. IT. )

fine. daei feels he has to have a large number of saipa players in TM to prove whatever he wants to prove? .... fine by me.
but at least lets arrange the STARTING LINE UP by MERIT ( for a change ). shall we?

and if we go by merit ( and not "name" or "past form" ), sadeghi has no right to start any games.

[zzgloo]

I believe, the fiasco with Ali Daei and legioners ,have not started !
There is that , punishing of rahman
There is that , pants of Nikbakht,
There was the Enayati thing...
there is karimi,issue which has not finished yet,
There is the non-recagniction of Arab league players.
late assignment of assistant coaches.
......................................
All these,may at some point damage TM's out put......
But, comeing,Eygpt game or the following games....when we are supposedly are going to have all our legioners ..
.......
Some how ,I believe, we are not done, with Clash of " Egos ", or all legioners in-take, when they are together, of Daei's Regim !

[Doctor DOOM]

what I'm afraid of is while daei says he'll call the legionairs for the egypt game, he may end up with only nekunam, ando and shojaei , and cook up some more flimsy excuses for the rest, like ; this one's not ready, that one's not fit, the other one's in uae, the next is old, .... etc !

this is something that I never expected from daei. and I , in fact, remember arguing with you, bahram jan, over the very same thing.
I remember you did bring up the tension and the matter of "egos" between daei and the legionairs and I discounted it and refused to believe he would behave this way. unfortunately, now, I must admit you were correct and I was wrong in my assessment of daei as TM coach ! I stand corrected.
truly I didnt expect this

as a player I always believed Daei was the most patriotic player we've had in a long long time. and I believed he would put the team above any and everything else. and he DID, that's why I was so sure this attitude would follow him as the coach.
now, that very same team has taken a back seat to his personal dislikes and likes ... which is extremely worrying.

[KasraKhan]

what I'm afraid of is while daei says he'll call the legionairs for the egypt game, he may end up with only nekunam, ando and shojaei , and cook up some more flimsy excuses for the rest, like ; this one's not ready, that one's not fit, the other one's in uae, the next is old, .... etc !

Yes, I am afraid of that too DD jan.

But time will tell, we will find out in a very short time what execuses, if any, Daei uses for not calling up Hashemian, Karim and Kia. We are almost 1 month away from the Egypt game and 6 weeks away from the KSA match.

[zzgloo]

what I'm afraid of is while daei says he'll call the legionairs for the egypt game, he may end up with only nekunam, ando and shojaei , and cook up some more flimsy excuses for the rest, like ; this one's not ready, that one's not fit, the other one's in uae, the next is old, .... etc !

this is something that I never expected from daei. and I , in fact, remember arguing with you, bahram jan, over the very same thing.
I remember you did bring up the tension and the matter of "egos" between daei and the legionairs and I discounted it and refused to believe he would behave this way. unfortunately, now, I must admit you were correct and I was wrong in my assessment of daei as TM coach ! I stand corrected.
truly I didnt expect this

as a player I always believed Daei was the most patriotic player we've had in a long long time. and I believed he would put the team above any and everything else. and he DID, that's why I was so sure this attitude would follow him as the coach.
now, that very same team has taken a back seat to his personal dislikes and likes ... which is extremely worrying.

Payman jaan......We all hope for the best,and wish things would n't turn ugly !

Nikbakht's reaction to Daei's comment was to leave the camp.
Rahman's reaction was ,to say nothing,and comply.
Enayati, same.
Karimi,tried to indirectly give some massages to the fans.
Most likely, hashemian,and kia's reaction to the daie's probable unwise , pointed future position against them, will not be of the Karimi kind, and it will be more like " ????????????????? "

You see, Daei is puting these guys in corner..in a way, that in one hand he down grades them, and in another he says they should be very honored to
play for he TM......
So, if you are karimi or Hashemian......you are damed either way !
If, you stay,he belittles you, and pushes the boundries of egoes.
If,you do not stay, you will be branded as arrogant who does not want to give 100% to TM.................
I may be speculating a little here....but one thing is for sure !
TM locker room atmospher is not going to be very friendly !

[perspolees]

Karimi : has not endorsed daie yet, nor daei liked President and poleticians interfiering in his business.
.....

lol daei got the job just because of those politicians interference!!
He even said it out loud" harki partish kolofttar bashe morabiye tm meeshe"

[Ali Chicago]

I hate to create Hasheyeh and side track Mr. Daie right now as the head coach of the tm. However, in my current trip to Tureky, many Iranians claimed that he married the daughter of the Mr. Velayati (former foreign minsiter of IRI and a current member of Shoraye Tashkhese Maslahate Nezam and a close guy to Khamenaye, one guy mentioned actually he married the daughter of another influential figure) and cited this as a sign of his influence in IRI. Now with lack of press freedom in Iran and a riped environment for rumers in Iran, it is very difficult to prove to disprove these claims. But this is what I heard.

Again I have no way of verifying or disproving this, so just as an FYI. Having said that, I dont' think this should be used as something to use against Mr. Daie. His personal life is his own business and he needs to be judged based on the performance of the TM in the field. But, I still posted this, so it can explain the influence of Mr. Daie in IRI

[zzgloo]

[QUOTE=Ali Chicago;1060404] in my current trip to Tureky,[QUOTE]

Ali jaan, let us know about your turkey trip;....I heard, Esteghlal,saipa,Perspolice,foolad khoozestan,and may be some others, had camps there.....
where did you go, ?who did you see ?

[Ali Chicago]

[QUOTE=zzgloo;1060478][QUOTE=Ali Chicago;1060404] in my current trip to Tureky,

Ali jaan, let us know about your turkey trip;....I heard, Esteghlal,saipa,Perspolice,foolad khoozestan,and may be some others, had camps there.....
where did you go, ?who did you see ?

SS and Saipa were in teh same camp, in the Green Park Hotel about 2.5 hour south east of Istanbul.
Players and coaching staff of SS were very nice and "Khaki". There were other teams 3 Turkish team and a team from Azarbaijan there as well.

SS was focsing mostly on fitness with 2-3 practice sessions per day. Dr. Hamid Khodadd is the fitness coach. According to him, he was studing in East Coast universities (Maryland I think) late 70 early 80s.

Based on teh practice session I saw Ahmad Khazviri, Maysam manyiiee, Amir Abadi, Ravankhah were in top form.

Of course there were problems as well. GN told me that the day before I visit , 15 players checks was NSFed so players were really pisseds as usual.

GN was looking at few forwards (Jabbari wasn't there btw). I helped with translating conversation between an alledgedly Brazilain agent and SS coaching staff. The guy didnt' seem very good though based on the tape IMHO.

Turkey is beutiful, nice weather (a lil too hot at this time, suggest to go in Sep much better), good food, good historical sites, warm friendly people, beauftiful ladies (in my case window shopping of course ). All in all a good experience.

[Nokhodi]

I hate to create Hasheyeh and side track Mr. Daie right now as the head coach of the tm. However, in my current trip to Tureky, many Iranians claimed that he married the daughter of the Mr. Velayati (former foreign minsiter of IRI and a current member of Shoraye Tashkhese Maslahate Nezam and a close guy to Khamenaye, one guy mentioned actually he married the daughter of another influential figure) and cited this as a sign of his influence in IRI. Now with lack of press freedom in Iran and a riped environment for rumers in Iran, it is very difficult to prove to disprove these claims. But this is what I heard.
Again I have no way of verifying or disproving this, so just as an FYI. Having said that, I dont' think this should be used as something to use against Mr. Daie. His personal life is his own business and he needs to be judged based on the performance of the TM in the field. But, I still posted this, so it can explain the influence of Mr. Daie in IRI

His wife is a old classmate of his from Sharif University. And judging by the wedding he had and the way the bride was dressed I doubt she is related to anyone high up in the government.

[KasraKhan]

His wife is a old classmate of his from Sharif University. And judging by the wedding he had and the way the bride was dressed I doubt she is related to anyone high up in the government.