The plight of Ali Karimi

[maij]

Maybe it's a bit of an over-interpretation, but it seemed the national team functioned better without him against China. Since his footballing skills are very much beyond doubt, I guess it would have to do with his character, unless my impression is wrong.

I can't say anything about the China match since I have not watched it , but I wholeheartedly agree on the second part.

Time and again it has been proven that football needs much more than pure skill from the player. Character , motivation and will power has given players will less God given skill the edge of skillful players.

I never say that Karimi , or any player for that matter , should not be selected or not needed for TM unless that player has lost the will and desire to play for his country.

In Karimi's case , I am not really sure how he feels about playing for Team Melli or Ghotbi per se'..... I do have my doubts.

[Ali Chicago]

Maybe it's a bit of an over-interpretation, but it seemed the national team functioned better without him against China. Since his footballing skills are very much beyond doubt, I guess it would have to do with his character, unless my impression is wrong.

I saw about 40 minutes of the game in the first half. But not sure what you mean by "functioning better without him"? Are you saying without Karimi TM did better? Compared to what? Assume u are right, How can you be sure "alleged better performance" was due to absence of Karimi? "

I am merely asking for clarifications here. I have no interest to make this pro vs. Anti Karimi affair?

[maij]

No sooner than Karimi is planned to return back to Steel Azin's team , the rumors are rife of yet another "Hashiya" , another set of differences , another trouble brewing !!!!

مهدوي*كيا، سياوش اكبرپور, حسين كاظمي و چند بازيكن ديگر در جبهه مخالفان كريمي قرار دارند

1:14:00 am - 1389/ 6/ 20 : در تاريخ مهدی قوامی


هر چند بازگشت علي كريمي به استيل آذين از لحاظ فني به سود اين تيم شد ولي اين موضوع حاشيه*هايي را به همراه داشته است.
چند بازيكن سرشناس استيل آذين در حال حاضر رابطه چندان خوبي با جادوگر ندارند و گفته مي*شود كه فوتباليست*هاي اين تيم به دو باند مختلف تقسيم شده*اند كه يك باند متعلق به طرفداران كريمي است و در باند ديگر مخالفان اين بازيكن حضور دارند.
، در بين دو نيمه ديدار استيل آذين و تراكتورسازي كه با شكست ياران كريمي همراه بود، اين بازيكن در رختكن از بازي تيمش انتقاد كرد و حتي صداي او بلند شد كه اين موضوع براي چند بازيكن سرشناس استيل آذين چندان جالب توجه نبود.
اگر يادتان باشد كريمي فصل گذشته هم در يكي از بازي*هاي تيمش در رختكن داد و فرياد به راه انداخت كه اين موضوع با واكنش مهدي مهدوي*كيا همراه بود. در حال حاضر بازيكناني مثل مهدوي*كيا، سياوش اكبرپور, حسين كاظمي و چند بازيكن ديگر در جبهه مخالفان كريمي قرار دارند و چند بازيكن مثل عشوري*زاد، حسن اشجاري، نشاط*جو، ميلاد زنيدپور، فريدون زندي و محمد غلامي هم در باند كريمي هستند.
به نظر مي*رسد حاشيه*هاي زيادي در اين تيم پرستاره همچنان وجود دارد و مشخص نيست چه سرنوشتي در انتظار اين تيم خواهد بود.

[St_Mark]

During yesterday game with Saba, toward the end while they were behind, Karimi created a good goal scoring chance from right flank, Kabbi kicked the ball high above the bar that angerd Karimi.
According to Isna and Mehr unpleasant exchanged took place between the two. Karimi demanded Kabi out but according to coach he was under impression Kabi himself wanted to be out.
Incident like that won't help Karimi . Team Coach repeatedly stated he has yet to see any "Star" in his squad in reference to Karimi, Kia, Kabi, Kazemi, zandi, Zeniedpour, ...
I doubt that goes well with players including Karimi , but so far Karimi has been silence about that even when he has to play as a CD.
That frustration will explode soon or later.

درگیری علی کریمی با حسین کعبی

از جمله حواشی بازی دیشب درگیری کریمی و کعبی بود. پس از آنکه کعبی موقعیت صد در صد گل تیم استیل آذین را از دست داد کریمی به سوی کعبی رفت و درگیری لفظی این دو شروع شد.

در ادامه علی کریمی به سمت کادر فنی رفته و خواستار تعویض این بازیکن شد. پس از اتمام بازی در هنگام ترک نیمکتها شاهدان عینی از خروج کعبی با چشمانی گریان خبر دادند

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تومباکوویچ:

بازیکن بزرگی در استیل آذین نمی بینم

قم - خبرگزاری مهر: سرمربی تیم فوتبال استیل آذین تهران گفت: بسیاری معتقد ند تیم استیل آذین بازیکنان بزرگی دارد، ولی من بازیکن بزرگی در این تیم نمی بینم.

به گزارش خبرنگار مهر در قم، لوبیسا تومباکوویچ که شامگاه شنبه پس از باخت یک بر صفر تیمش برابر صبای قم در سالن کنفرانس خبری ورزشگاه یادگار امام قم با خبرنگاران گفتگو می کرد، اظهار داشت: استیل آذین بازیکنان با ارزشی دارد ولی این بازیکنان باید خود را در داخل زمین نشان دهند.

وی با بیان این که تا تبدیل شدن به یک تیم برنده خیلی فاصله داریم و باید بیشتر کار کنیم بیان کرد: برخی در رابطه با تیم استیل آذین می گویند این تیم بازیکنان بزرگی دارد اما من این مسئله را قبول ندارم.

[maij]

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At this rate , Karimi will be running out of friends in Steel Azin. However , I sometimes wonder if he really cares. I personally know that Karimi has always been quite friendly with Mahdavikia for many years. The report of the alleged differences between the two is quite disturbing.

As for the Kaebi's case , again it is the same old Karimi act. He thinks he is the coach , chairman and everything in between. Since when does a player demand the substitution of his teammate ?

The arrogance have gone into his head and all his supporter should be ready for more acts of aggression , arrogance and thriller. His victory against Ajerloo will certainly go to his head , and like you I think Karimi will soon explode against the coach and demand his change (perhaps not in public , but certainly in private).

[Nokhodi]

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At this rate , Karimi will be running out of friends in Steel Azin. However , I sometimes wonder if he really cares. I personally know that Karimi has always been quite friendly with Mahdavikia for many years. The report of the alleged differences between the two is quite disturbing.

As for the Kaebi's case , again it is the same old Karimi act. He thinks he is the coach , chairman and everything in between. Since when does a player demand the substitution of his teammate ?

The arrogance have gone into his head and all his supporter should be ready for more acts of aggression , arrogance and thriller. His victory against Ajerloo will certainly go to his head , and like you I think Karimi will soon explode against the coach and demand his change (perhaps not in public , but certainly in private).

Majid jan, I don't know the full details of what is happening in Steel Azin, but Karimi has always had a habit of lashing out against people who he is friends with. For example he and Kavianpour were very good friends but their friendship ended very suddenly. Apparently Karimi is not even on good terms with his brother Farshid! Anyways, hopefully this is all a misunderstanding.

[toofan]

all this sagas karimi created im not too happy aboutm, even though im not sure
if he started all this.all i know is how come no one else gets into so much trouble.


i wont want him in AC11. I dont want another WC06 issue.

[maij]

Majid jan, I don't know the full details of what is happening in Steel Azin, but Karimi has always had a habit of lashing out against people who he is friends with. For example he and Kavianpour were very good friends but their friendship ended very suddenly. Apparently Karimi is not even on good terms with his brother Farshid! Anyways, hopefully this is all a misunderstanding.

Yes..that Karimi / Kavianpour is something. I it alleged that Kavinpour was in tears in front of many close friends while talking about how Karimi has mistreated/insulted him while Karimi on his side was accusing Hamed of cheating him in their business partnership Dubai !

At our level , we cannot vouch for either side simply because we do not have the full story nor do we have any evidences...but as Toofan said in his post " how come no one else gets into so much trouble?"

It is really..really difficult to defend a person like Ali Karimi . He is always one step away from trouble and hashiye , and it is NOT always with his peers or the authorities , but it also reaches up to his friends , teammates and even direct family members.

[St_Mark]

Yes..that Karimi / Kavianpour is something. I it alleged that Kavinpour was in tears in front of many close friends while talking about how Karimi has mistreated/insulted him while Karimi on his side was accusing Hamed of cheating him in their business partnership Dubai !

At our level , we cannot vouch for either side simply because we do not have the full story nor do we have any evidences...but as Toofan said in his post " how come no one else gets into so much trouble?"

It is really..really difficult to defend a person like Ali Karimi . He is always one step away from trouble and hashiye , and it is NOT always with his peers or the authorities , but it also reaches up to his friends , teammates and even direct family members.

He won another one.

حسين هدايتي اين كار را انجام داد تا شايد قائله ها حداقل در اين يك مورد بخوابد اما به محض بازگشت علي کريمي به تمرينات استيل آذين، شماره 8 ترجيح داد با تمرين کند تا شايعات قبلي مبني بر اينکه کريمي مي خواهد لباس هاي تيم را از توليدي دوست نزديکش مجيد ساعدي*فر تامين كند، به نوعي تاييد شوند.

اين تيم در سه بازي مقابل پيکان، مس و تراکتورسازي هم با لباس هاي آمبرو به ميدان رفت اما داستان به همين جا ختم نشد و زماني که اين تيم در قم با لباس هاي مجيد وارد ميدان شد، همه به اين نتيجه رسيدند كه ستاره به تنهايي دراستيل آذين همه کار مي کند

Ali & Majid

چنین است رسم سرای درشت
گهی پشت به زین و گهی زین به پشت

[zzgloo]

Then there is another side to ALI KARIMI :




http://www.persianfootball.com/forum...ad.php?t=89677



این هم علی کریمی در کنار بلندقدترین پسر ایران که در برنامه ماه عسل شرکت کرد. از بلندی قد خودش دچاره عارضه شده بود. مجری ازش پرسید چه آرزویی داری. گفت سه تا آرزو دارم. یکی اینکه سالم باشم. لپ تاپ داشته باشم. و علی کریمی رو از نزدیک ببینم. همون شب علی کریمی یه لپ تاپ براش خرید و رفت به دیدنش و گفت هزینه درمانت هم میدم بری آلمان. هر سه تا آرزوشو برآورده کرد



علی کریمی در کنار بابک معصومی - زمانیکه کسی کمکی به بابک معصومی نکرد علی کریمی تمام مخارج بیمارستانشو پرداخت کرد


عــلی کـريمـی در جمـع کـودکـان بـی سرپــرسـت

[maij]

He won another one.

Ali & Majid

چنین است رسم سرای درشت
گهی پشت به زین و گهی زین به پشت

I Sat down with this guy in Kuala Lumpur and in Dubai and had a chat and tea , but never knew who he was !!! So this is my namesake who is a doctor , a businessman and and sport clothing manufacturer....!!


So , Karimi thinks that "Majid" brand is better than the world famous "Umbro" !!! Bless him...he is supporting the local industry.....

[maij]

I have not refreshed this rich discussion for sometime , I am happy to update it now but this time with some brilliant news.

ALI KARIMI IS IN SCHALKE O4

After his unfair dismissal from Steel Azin , there were not many chances for Karimi to play in the league for one reason or another. It was mostly due to the regulation which limits number of first division registered players in each club.

Karimi was even thinking of hanging his boot at the tender age of 32!

Of course, the unfair dismissal is a personal opinion ,ot hers may think it is not. The declared reason (..) by the club for his dismisal was due to Karimi playing for Al Ahli of Dubai in an exhibition match without club approval! Karimi said otherwise. I simply beleive Karimi because even an indiscipline person like him knows such basic regulations. He just does not take a ticket and fly to Dubai without the club approval or knowledge. The dispute revolves around who was the authorized person. Steel Azin claims the person who gave the OK to Karimi was not authorized to do so , in that case that adminstrator should have been disciplines NOT Ali Karimi.

In any case...the call from Schalke and Magath in particular came like a breath of a fresh spring air for Ali Karimi. OK , the short contract could be limiting , but I think it is long enough for Karimi to excel and show his worth.

Karimi was short of inspiration in Steel Azin. He really did not have the heart , the willingness , and the drive to play for this no name team. People who followed Karimi's career and know his personality will very well be aware that in the case of lack of drive , Karimi will be an ordinary also ran player nothing exciting and very much under par.

Schalke 04 is a new and fresh challenge. Barring injuries and if Magath gives him playing time . I believe that Karimi will excel and thrill his supporters. Schalke is not in a good position at the moment to challenge for the title but qualification to Champions League is possible if they press on and win a few games climbing the table.

I am thrilled to see Karimi in Schalke 04 and follow his progress after a longish time when Karimi was going nowhere but down south. These are exciting times and once again I would personally be following the Bundesliga again.

Go Karimi,

[Ali Chicago]

Wish him all the success in Germany. See if he can get a starting or even a sub in Schalke.

Onre more thing, I hope Karimi be the Karimi that Magath wanted, someoen like Arjen Ruben ( I know their posts are different), who gets the ball, holds the ball, initiate and take risk. Not trying to become a typical Bundesliga players who runs hard and work hard without improvising.

[Hajagha]

Majid jan,

Just by following Karimi, one can understand the story of Iranian football. Never know what you get.

BTW:

So , Karimi thinks that "Majid" brand is better than the world famous "Umbro" !!! Bless him...he is supporting the local industry.....

When I was in Iran, I bought a pair of fake NIKE sweatpants. I tell you the quality of the pants are much better than the original ones. it keeps me wonder why they fake it then.

I guess Karimi already tested that too.

Cheers,

[maij]

Majid jan,

Just by following Karimi, one can understand the story of Iranian football. Never know what you get.

I certainly vouch for that statement...

When I was in Iran, I bought a pair of fake NIKE sweatpants. I tell you the quality of the pants are much better than the original ones.

it keeps me wonder why they fake it then.

I guess Karimi already tested that too.

Cheers,

Well , I am glad you found the quality in those fake goods , Reza Jan. I , on the other hand , was never that lucky.

The last time I bought some fake in Tehran , about 10 years ago or maybe or more, It was a white Esteghlal jersey with a large blue logo printed in the front. It was summer and after wearing it for the day , I took it off for washing ...I was pleasantly surprised to see the Esteghlal blue logo was now transferred on my chest ...That was a bonus , I guess!