Iran-Taiwan + Comments/Analysis

[Nokhodi]

But If I were the coach, I would go with such a lineup in the WC:
---------------Hashemian---------------
------Zandi------Karimi---------Kazemian
-------------Nekonam--Jabbari-----------
--????-----Rezaie--Golmo-------Mahdavikia
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I really like this, but I would never have Kia play rightback, he's just too good in TM on right midfield. Kaabi isn't that bad in rightback.
So I would replace Kazmeian with Kia, and put Kaabi back in defense.

[Doctor DOOM]

lets look at it this way:

you're regular sporty guy , who is supposed to go fight some big tough fellow.

one day you beat some little first grader ( and do it in such a scrappy manner . not at all convincing ) .
do you say oh, I think I did well.
I did beat this kid.
especially the way I punched him or kicked him !!!


you go on thinking like this, you're gonna die young at the hands of that bully !!

so plz dont even bother with we did well or ok or ... !
when there is NO opposition, you have NOTHING to measure urself against.

as I said earlier:

punching air is easy.
air boxing could be very heady.
but, let me see you punch a wall, and THEN, we'll talk.

[Darvish11]

lets look at it this way:

you're regular sporty guy , who is supposed to go fight some big tough fellow.

one day you beat some little first grader ( and do it in such a scrappy manner . not at all convincing ) .
do you say oh, I think I did well.
I did beat this kid.
especially the way I punched him or kicked him !!!


you go on thinking like this, you're gonna die young at the hands of that bully !!

so plz dont even bother with we did well or ok or ... !
when there is NO opposition, you have NOTHING to measure urself against.

as I said earlier:

punching air is easy.
air boxing could be very heady.
but, let me see you punch a wall, and THEN only, we'll talk.

analogy of the year!

And hadi, your formation is ok, but I really think we need 2 players playing striker.

[Hadi]

I think Not, We should play with one striker. The reason for that is that we have many grea attacking Midfielders but only 1 experienced, On form, and top quality striker. Also, it makes more sense to play with one striker againts Mexico and Portugal and then add to our offensive power with subs if needed.

In the formation you have written in your signature for example,

we only have 2 centerbacks, 1 right back and no leftback! We have Mobali as a winger and Kazemian as a left striker! Kazemian lacks finishing in a striker position and Mobali is no good for the wings. I think the better formation with those players is:

-------Hashemian-------------------
--------------------Kazemian-------
--------Mobali--Karimi------------Kia-
--------------Nekonam--------------
---Zandi-----------------------Kabi-
----------Rezaie----Golmo-----------

Still, we see that Zandi is no left back and the team is too offensive for a WC game againts Mexico and Portugal.

[Hadi]

I really like this, but I would never have Kia play rightback, he's just too good in TM on right midfield. Kaabi isn't that bad in rightback.
So I would replace Kazmeian with Kia, and put Kaabi back in defense.

Yeah, well no arguments there. That can work too. But I was thinking of using Kia like in Hamburg so he can be inolved in more playmaking than himself running to the byline.

Since with this formation our three offensive midfielders are not playing wide, we need a similar quick, powerful, skillful player as a left back with good crossing skill. Right now probably Manie is the best choice but I say use Madanchi or even Kabi there and see what happens. Madanchi is sloppy in defending but he can learn and Kabi wont be the first right footed full back to play in left.

[Dr.shark]

unfortunately I dont have much time to talk and will address things in detail later, but for the time being lets just suffice with these :

1- remember trying to shove that square peg into the round hole, ... for months and wasting of game after game insisting on this braindead idea?

nosrati playing as central defender ( instead of the idiotic idea of left back ) answered all these, and underlined why a coach who is NOT fit to be a head coach ( a decision maker ) and is only good for assisting, is NOT a good idea to leave a national team to him !


2- apart from yet another wasting of opportunity in testing those who deserved to be tested, we saw Daei start and finish !!


3- and the most absurd and idiotic decisions of all :
playing 3 natural def-midfielders at the same time !!!!

alavi, teymoorian and nekounam !
and the most braindead of them all :
3 DEFENSIVE midfielders against a team so weak, so impotent that they say "it is an honor to be PLAYING Iran" !!!!
how much more WIMPY can this guy get ?

what a revolutionary idea to "WASTE MORE OPPORTUNITY" instead of actually planning an alternative midfield formation !!!!!!!!

branko ought to be given a medal in conjuring up more ways to waste chances , each and every time !!!!!

He can get a lot more wimpyer. He can make us play like chines tipe with one man in net and the rest on diffenece. No forwards or any thing and he will say it was an honor for us to play......
this is his plan and he will get their you will see when mixeco scores 8 goals on us and then portugal does the same thing.
now we will have so people coming out and telling no Branko is good maybe this time they might even say to us that we should be him too

[Dr.shark]

The way I saw the game was poor for us as we did not do what we wanted
(1) we saw the same old boys playing
(2) this 4th rate team was not able to do much against our team so we did not see how our players would do if they were to be in front of some one that has slills
(3) we had daie (a god player) with a bad knee that has been giving him problems for some time in the game for 90+ min.
(4) nosrate playing in deffence but thinking he is a forward???????
and golmo up giving headers to corners.
Now when taking corners one would think that some diffence should be left back just in case but not for us we are so strong when it comes to diffence that nosrate and golmo can both come out ?????
if we were like Colombia then Branko would be no more. I wish we were like Colombia right now.
as far as the players that should play for us right now and would make a good team would be:

-------------- Oladi-------------- Hashemian----------------
Zandi--------------------------Karimi--------------
-------------Nakonam------------------------
------------------------------Mahdavikia -------------------------
Navidkia------------------Rezaie---------- Kabbi
----------------------Golmo---------------------------
----------------------Taleblu----------------------------------
and our subs should be :
Enayate
Daie
Moballi
Jabbare
Taymorian
Zare
Alavi
Merzapoor
Bagheri
Azizi
we should try this team I think it will do good to have people that are fast have played against players from other top countrys ex: bondislega
with some young fast high skill irane players ex: Oladi in one team al least then we will be passing and with those high skills making chances to score.
I also think that if we can not find a coach for our team then we should try to send this team with out a coach to the world cup.
It would look better for us when we lose bad out their if we had no coach then to have a coach and lose so badly out their in the world cup.

[Hajagha]

mmmm, nobody says Daei scored once and assisted another one, then he desreve to be there for another 20 years?

Guys, kick him out, all other problems will be solved.

[Hadi]

Thats the Spirit Haji

I also think Daie is the symbol of conservative style in TM. His crossing of the list will do great thing for TM.

[Behrooz]

Daie did his job by scoring one goal and assisting another but he should not play 90 minutes specially against weaker opponents when we are up 4-0.

One area we need to work on is on counter attacks using many (useless)crosses for Daei. We need to penetrate thru the middle and create chances for combinations, shooting, running, etc., and thus adding more dimensions to our offnese besides relying on Deai's headers from bad crosses..

[khabalood]

I think Not, We should play with one striker. The reason for that is that we have many grea attacking Midfielders but only 1 experienced, On form, and top quality striker. Also, it makes more sense to play with one striker againts Mexico and Portugal and then add to our offensive power with subs if needed.

Hadi jaan, I don't think that would be a wise decision at all. Portugals back for is a world class defence. One striker would be helpless against them and if we were to create any chances at all we would have to have our midfileders runinning into the box. In essence doing the job of a second striker. The difference being that when our players are forced to play out of position holes in the field open up that would be exploited by a fast team such as portugal on the counter, and with our finishing make no mistake about it there will be a counter attack. That said I think it vital that a second striker play, so that our midfielders may maintain their positional play.

I do not have enough knowledge about the mexican defense to form an opinion the matter in regards to them, but if they are similar to portugal than I believe teh aforementioned plan should be used.

[Hajagha]

Hadi jaan, I don't think that would be a wise decision at all. Portugals back for is a world class defence. One striker would be helpless against them and if we were to create any chances at all we would have to have our midfileders runinning into the box. In essence doing the job of a second striker. The difference being that when our players are forced to play out of position holes in the field open up that would be exploited by a fast team such as portugal on the counter, and with our finishing make no mistake about it there will be a counter attack. That said I think it vital that a second striker play, so that our midfielders may maintain their positional play.
I do not have enough knowledge about the mexican defense to form an opinion the matter in regards to them, but if they are similar to portugal than I believe teh aforementioned plan should be used.

Actually we need only one fast, skillfull striker as probobly we only get our chances in counter attack. That would be Hashemian with the help of Karimi/Kia/Ka'abi. If you check Asian cup matches again, you will see the same scene over and over which in all scenes Daei left behind.

It's easy, we can't affoard a slow, nonskillfull, old and oer rated srtiker against world class teams.

Cheers

[mehdy]

Jabbari....What a beautiful player he is!

His ball-control,touch,Backspin,pass....All are beautiful!!!

I think His talent is more excellent than another TM game-maker(Zandi,Mobbali,Navidkia).

[mehdy]

Lets discuss what we saw in the match today here in the F+ forum.
Taiwan was much weaker than I expected and TM should have won with a better scoreline and played a better match. Although I understand that this is TM's first match after a long time and we saw some new faces, but we saw the usual flaws again.
Players:
The Bad:
1-Ali Daie: againts defenders who are less than 1/10 of what we will face in WC he was unable to control the ball well. No need to say this again, he is slow, his finishing has drastically declined and he is desperate. The only positive move was his assist to Madanchi's first goal.
2-Mohammad Nosrati: He claimed he is back on form but again we saw the nerves. It was funny how he constantly tried to be like "Lucio" and take part in attacks. Today he played as a central defender and in 1-2 occasions showed he is not TM material. How is he going to handle the huge pressure the Portugal and Mexican strikers put on him when he has the ball. How can he play simple and effective passes in that sort of pressure and atmosphere. How can he not give away freekicks againts quicker more skillful player. He is a disaster waiting to happen in the WC. He may not have been a disaster today but I am looking at this guy playing againts Christiano Ronaldo.
3-Rasool Khatibi: The selfish boy does it again. Frustrates all. We didnt even see his usually good finishing. Akbarpor also showed he isnt experienced in TM level and needs more time.
The Good:
1-Mojtaba Jabbari: Man of the match. Just compare him with Nekonam. Nekonam has turned into a mediocore player and Jabbari was Iran's sole playmaker
2-Teymorian: Did pretty well although I dont like to use him on the right at all.
3-Kabi: Surprisingly he showed he is stil our number one man in Right defense. Good passing, quick and motivated.
Now to the tactical flaws I saw:
-The lack of putting constant and organized pressure on the opponant when they had the ball. Taiwan didnt have much of the ball but we never saw organized pressuring from our strikers and Attacking Midfielders. The Taiwan players were actually so weak that they gave the ball away themselves without any pressure most of the times.
-Lets hope this was the last time we played with Nekonam-Alavi combination. With this formation, we have 0 creativity, speed and ideas in midfield. We just need to use one of them and preferably with Nekonam. Alavi will just slow our game.
-Our tactic was obviously crossing in todays match. But it was sad to see our players unable to get a good percentage of healthy crosses againts D-class defenders. And when they did, our strikers showed they act like amatures when heading the ball (ie Daie)
-I am sure the Mexican coach was smiling when he saw how slow our team is and how easily Mexico will be able to dictate the game.
-The biggest problem of TM in the WC in my opinion, will be the pressure of the oponant on our defenders. Everytime we can get a healthy ball to our playmakers in the WC, we will be dangerous. But I am afraid our defense (and defensive midfielders) will crack under the pressure, make mistakes, give the ball away and will look confused in no time. We need to work on this. Just watch our 1998 WC tapes and see how well the ball is transferred from our defense to Estili, Mahdavikia and Azizi.
Here are my scores (kicker style)
Nosrati: 4
Golmohammadi: 3
Zare: 3.5
Alavi: 4
Kaebi: 2.5
Nekounam: 3
Khatibi: 4.5
Daei: 4.5
Madanchi: 2.5
Akbarpour: 4
Teymurian: 2.5
Kazemian: 3
Jabbari: 2

Your Signature was proven.

[Darvish11]

Actually we need only one fast, skillfull striker as probobly we only get our chances in counter attack. That would be Hashemian with the help of Karimi/Kia/Ka'abi. If you check Asian cup matches again, you will see the same scene over and over which in all scenes Daei left behind.

It's easy, we can't affoard a slow, nonskillfull, old and oer rated srtiker against world class teams.

Cheers

from what i have seen from mexico when they play teams with one striker, they abolutely eat the guy alive. And the games that i have seen have mostly been WITHOUT marquez. There is no way that we can penetrate that mexican defense with only one striker. You said in an earlier post that Kazemian lacks finishing. That may be true, but he is a playmaking striker. That is a good mix with our finishing striker, Hashemian. The duo of Hash and Daei WILL NOT work in the world cup. Neither will just hashemian by himself.