an accidental discovery ?

[Doctor DOOM]

I am away from home and had a lot of free time today and decided what the hell , lets watch saba-ss game.

I missed the first 15 minutes, but the final 80+ minutes was quite absorbing.
on many levels.
for me, this was the first time I was seeing Qom's stadium and saw how rowdy the qomis were with all the bottles being thrown at players ... foe AND FRIENDLY !!!! LOL !
but that's besides the point.

I was particularly intrigued by a few players & issues in the game.

I found saba's FESHANG-CHI an absolute pleasure to watch.
my god, where was this lad hiding?
I know this is just one game I've seen. but if he follows such levels in another 2-3 games, I'd say lets call him up at TM camp trials.

I mean he has replaced Asadi who has been quite solid for saba on the left. thus forcing karimi to take Asadi out of the left and place feshangchi instead. the lad is immensely skillful with the ball. and that kind of wild skills for a left back? that's just craaazy ! ( good crazy )

he was quick and pacey as well. and with nice crosses to boost.
I like the lad and think he has great potential.


but that is NOT the "accidental discovery".
you gotta wait for this one.

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next issue is what makes alizadeh's throws more dangerous than a regular free kick?
really. can anyone tell me why we cant KICK the ball the same way he throws the ball, which creates such danger ?
the question's amazing in its simplicity!
is it the height of the ball? is it the speed of the throw? is it the point of landing? ( in other words, the trajectory )
so how come when alizadeh's throws there is so much anticipation that is absent in all these free kicks?

again, this is not the accidental discovery , either.

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here it is:
I invite everyone to watch the saba-ss game again, if only to follow ASADI's performance as central back.
the guy was extremely solid and had a marvelous performance.
the icing on the cake was when he saved a goal on the goal-line also.
but what really interested me was his PACE and SPEED as CB.

isnt that what we're missing at TM? a quick-footed CB ?
he is experienced. he is multifunctional ( can whip zareh's behind as LB anyday of the week ). reads the game well. and has been among the better players/defenders of IPL in the past couple of years. but more importantly, he is FAST.

would it hurt if we tried him as an alternative to either aghili or hosseini against the more quick opponents ?
I say definitely not.


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I found Feshangchi, Nouri, Asadi and Kolahkaj as extremely high performing players in the game.
and what I like is all of them are young and have a bright future.

on ss camp, akbarpoor was lively, but his bad temper just ruined everything.
montazeri did well in defense as well.

[purple_haze]

Good observations DD jan. Feshangchi was really a breath of fresh air! He totally owned the left side in the second half and wasn't that bad in the first either.
He comes from the Perspolis youth teams originally. I don't know where he's been since, but I'm sure the reds will be looking to bring him back if he keeps this up.
Asadi is IMO one of those players who always does his job and has a high lowest level, making him consistent. Kinda like Nekounam in a different position.

I agree with you about the good Saba players who really stood out. Another player on the other hand who seems to be having a dip in form is Gholamreza Rezaei. It started with the Saudi game and became even worse today. He was IMO one of Saba's worst players today. I've seen tendencies of him in TM not being a team player and not passing the ball when he's supposed to do, but today he took that to the extreme! Saba played quite a good passing game with decent speed, but every time the ball came to him he just slowed them down with his many failed and most ineffective dribbling attempts. At least when feshagchi did it, he mostly got past his players and also passed to in position players, but Rezaei just wanted to do it all himself and failed. Maybe his TM success has gotten to his head?

About the throw ins, I think it goes back to our lack of good crossers and in general low crossing technique! Alizadeh can deliver fast, pinpoint throws with decent hight(not too high and not too low), while the best crosses delivered by our players are more than often lacking enough pace and are either too high (GK has time to come out and pick) or too low (defenders clear).
The sad part is, I've recently even seen arab countries' players deliver far better crosses than we do!

[Martin-Reza]

Yes, Feshangchi looked promising in offense, we must not forget though that leftback mainly is a defending position, so the question is, how good could he deal with a lively quality rightwinger? I don't think we can really rate the guy after one game, unfortunately due to IRIB's broadcast policy we will not have much opportunity to see this guy again.

Kolahkaj and Nouri indeed are good players, the latter one class above the first in my opinion.

I didn't keep a special eye on Asadi I must admit and didn't have the impression he was more than solid, but as said, I wasn't fully concentrated on him.

[Masoud_A]

I am away from home and had a lot of free time today and decided what the hell , lets watch saba-ss game.

I missed the first 15 minutes, but the final 80+ minutes was quite absorbing.
on many levels.
for me, this was the first time I was seeing Qom's stadium and saw how rowdy the qomis were with all the bottles being thrown at players ... foe AND FRIENDLY !!!! LOL !
but that's besides the point.

I was particularly intrigued by a few players & issues in the game.

I found saba's FESHANG-CHI an absolute pleasure to watch.
my god, where was this lad hiding?
I know this is just one game I've seen. but if he follows such levels in another 2-3 games, I'd say lets call him up at TM camp trials.

I mean he has replaced Asadi who has been quite solid for saba on the left. thus forcing karimi to take Asadi out of the left and place feshangchi instead. the lad is immensely skillful with the ball. and that kind of wild skills for a left back? that's just craaazy ! ( good crazy )

he was quick and pacey as well. and with nice crosses to boost.
I like the lad and think he has great potential.


but that is NOT the "accidental discovery".
you gotta wait for this one.

-----------------------

next issue is what makes alizadeh's throws more dangerous than a regular free kick?
really. can anyone tell me why we cant KICK the ball the same way he throws the ball, which creates such danger ?
the question's amazing in its simplicity!
is it the height of the ball? is it the speed of the throw? is it the point of landing? ( in other words, the trajectory )
so how come when alizadeh's throws there is so much anticipation that is absent in all these free kicks?

again, this is not the accidental discovery , either.

----------------------

here it is:
I invite everyone to watch the saba-ss game again, if only to follow ASADI's performance as central back.
the guy was extremely solid and had a marvelous performance.
the icing on the cake was when he saved a goal on the goal-line also.
but what really interested me was his PACE and SPEED as CB.

isnt that what we're missing at TM? a quick-footed CB ?
he is experienced. he is multifunctional ( can whip zareh's behind as LB anyday of the week ). reads the game well. and has been among the better players/defenders of IPL in the past couple of years. but more importantly, he is FAST.

would it hurt if we tried him as an alternative to either aghili or hosseini against the more quick opponents ?
I say definitely not.


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I found Feshangchi, Nouri, Asadi and Kolahkaj as extremely high performing players in the game.
and what I like is all of them are young and have a bright future.

on ss camp, akbarpoor was lively, but his bad temper just ruined everything.
montazeri did well in defense as well.

You are making the performance of Saba's players look too good, you saw one game from them, prolly one they will not repeat alot, and suggesting your accidental discovery solves TM's whole defense issues?

[BehzadB]

the one thing that stood out in that game, was the lighting at the stadium..

For a shahrestanee stadium, this one had very good lighting..

[Doctor DOOM]

You are making the performance of Saba's players look too good, you saw one game from them, prolly one they will not repeat alot, and suggesting your accidental discovery solves TM's whole defense issues?

LOL.
if you can show me where I said "this IS THE solution to TM's "whole defense issue", then I'll agree.
you sure are ready to jump the gun without much ponderance, arent you?

I said it is worth looking at guys like feshangchi or asadi.
and all I said was "it wouldnt hurt to TRY them out" in test games and trials. I also said "if feshangchi keeps up this level of quality for another couple of game...".
that does not mean "they are the answer to our defensive woes".

hope the do zari fell through this time.
your zeal to jump at ppl has made you "too quick for your own good" , masoud jan.


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and yes, I'd say "nothing ventured, nothing gained".
it's a rather simple concept and easy to comprehend.
if you dont try X or Y for your trouble spots, you'll never know what you're missing.
sometimes nothing comes off these trials. sometimes you find absolute gems.
nothing ventured, nothing gained

[Doctor DOOM]

today, instead of watching the more advertized games of SS-SS(A) or sepahan-zob , I watched the saba game in shiraz.

I just wanted to follow up on the two players I'd been impressed last week. and I found :

1- feshangchi continued to have a good performance ( not as great as the one against SS last week )
I think he had more defensing to do becoz that Goodarzi kid down fajr's right wing was a live-wire! pure dynamite, that kid.
so their duel was extremely interesting.
both impressed me.
( I think goodarzi was an U-19 TM player )
so Feshangchi certainly deserves a closer scrutiny by TM staff.


2- Asadi, as central back.
he had another very good game. and what I focused on was his speed and pace. The guy does have pretty good speed and on a couple of counters, covered for yahya from a diagonal angle and reached the ball faster than the fajr attacker who was running straight at the ball.

Another good prospect for CB if the need for pace over-rides the physicality of the player.

3- Rezaei, had yet another disappointing game.
I dont know if it'd a "form" thing or perhaps his recent goals at TM, but the guy thinks he can do it all without the help of any other , and hates to pass the ball !!
has TM games gone to his head ? maybe.
but the last 3 games from him ( ksa w TM, and last 2 saba games ) , he's showing a declining form.
or perhaps the low quality of the oppositions ( kuwait, uae, palestine, syria, jordan, azerbaijan, zambia .... ) has a lot to do with his performances?
he'd better get in shape and learn to be a TEAM player once more.
we cant afford to lose more forwards at the moment !


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I wouldnt object if Montazeri ( SS ) was also invited to TM camp for a CB trial. has a good head on his shoulders. organizes the defense well. has been performing very well in the past 3-4 years in his clubs and junior TM's.
has good speed also.

[purple_haze]

3- Rezaei, had yet another disappointing game.
I dont know if it'd a "form" thing or perhaps his recent goals at TM, but the guy thinks he can do it all without the help of any other , and hates to pass the ball !!
has TM games gone to his head ? maybe.
but the last 3 games from him ( ksa w TM, and last 2 saba games ) , he's showing a declining form.
or perhaps the low quality of the oppositions ( kuwait, uae, palestine, syria, jordan, azerbaijan, zambia .... ) has a lot to do with his performances?
he'd better get in shape and learn to be a TEAM player once more.
we cant afford to lose more forwards at the moment !

Exactly what I said before, last week. Even in the last TM games he showed this one man show wannabe mentality. As we say "khore bazi". The kid needs to learn to be a team player and do what he's good at and not try to be a soloist super hero, cause frankly, although talented, he's not that good and his talents are found elsewhere.


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I wouldnt object if Montazeri ( SS ) was also invited to TM camp for a CB trial. has a good head on his shoulders. organizes the defense well. has been performing very well in the past 3-4 years in his clubs and junior TM's.
has good speed also.

I Agree and I've said it before. It's about time we add a defender who can also use his brain and not only adrenaline fuled muscle power.

[yashar_fasihnia]

thankyou. i have been asking for montazeri for a long time now.

mashalla, he is a bagheyrat player, which is very expected from a khuzestani footballer and at the same time, quite skilled in dribblings.

he adds to the attack well (like yahya used to in the old days he was younger), has good experience with the youth teams of iran (partnered with hosseini in youth TM before) and is also very vocal and communicates a lot with his team mates.
he is definitely, not slower, if not faster, than the rest of the team and is quite young.

even ferdosipour was amazed to day to see montazeri all over the field in attack and defense.

he acts and plays in a very "pokhte" and matured way for his age.

[Doctor DOOM]

^ I would like to think you would have said the very same thing had montazeri been playing for another team and NOT ss.
am I correct ?

becoz there are some fans who will praise only those players who play in their favorite club !
no matter how skilled the other fellows could be.

anyway, I think it wouldnt hurt to try out a couple of fresh faces to see if they can inject some needed pace to the central defense of TM.
so far both montazeri and asadi have been impressive.
will we see trials for these players ?

[Ali Chicago]

today, instead of watching the more advertized games of SS-SS(A) or sepahan-zob , I watched the saba game in shiraz.

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How do you manage to watch the Saba game in Shiraz, was it live, Just curious? Is there a way to watch local provinces TV (I figured that is the only way to watch Saba game) or there is an archive of these game on the net somewhere?

[yashar_fasihnia]

^ I would like to think you would have said the very same thing had montazeri been playing for another team and NOT ss.
am I correct ?
becoz there are some fans who will praise only those players who play in their favorite club !
no matter how skilled the other fellows could be.
anyway, I think it wouldnt hurt to try out a couple of fresh faces to see if they can inject some needed pace to the central defense of TM.
so far both montazeri and asadi have been impressive.
will we see trials for these players ?

ofcourse. if i wanted to praise my own teams players, i could have gone with players like kazemi and talebloo as well, but im not.

the fact that i constantly get to see montazeri play now that he is in esteghlal and also every coach in esteghlal is always using him as a fixed defender or DM ahead of all other players who have been at esteghlals services for years now (like kazemi, A.H. sadeghi and ghorbani) or even players who were invited to TM like shakouri and taghipour is also additional proof that this guy is indeed at a higher level than his other team mates. whether he is suitable for TM or not is another story, but i would like to see him being given a few games tryouts...

[Doctor DOOM]

ali jan, you can join :
https://www.glwiz.com/MediaCenterPage.aspx

and in the live TV section, there are 3 categories.
those stations outisde Iran, those IN Iran and then afghan ... etc.

in the section of domestic channels, you have fars TV, esfahan TV, khorasan TV, azeri TV, .... apart from the usual tehran's and jaamjams'.

for example, today I watch foolad's game in isfahan against sepahan.
and I must say I was quite disappointed at the immaturity of most foolad players.
many of them are way too young and inexperienced and mostly fell victim to sepahan players' experience and maturity!
quite distressing to watch chances fizzle away due to inexperience rather than anything technical !