A few points on saipa-kuruvchi game

[Doctor DOOM]

I mainly concentrated on the large contingent of TM players at saipa to get an idea of their form.

1- kaabi
as seen on countless occasions, kaabi's positioning in crosses coming from the opposite side are usually wrong and he either allows a lot of space behind him to be capitalized by the flank players, or he is left in a no-man's zone, not covering anyone !

This is something that needs to be worked on. He has to know whom he has to mark and where he shd be positioned.


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2- Rahmati
the guy is one classy player.
I'm not saying this becoz he scored. But becoz he's been performing rather consistently for the past 3-4 years, I am aware of his last year at paas and the past 2 seasons at saipa.
at the moment, he is a far better option than either of ando or the sub-par sadeghi.

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3- sadeghi
this is just a continuation of series of useless and utterly inferior displays by him.
I wish I had counted his turn-overs, coz they'd have reached double figures easily!
now, in a club, due to many restrictions in number of squad , I can understand the club coach having trouble replacing players.
but this fellow shd not be allowed anywhere within 10 kilometers of TM camps. It's a bloody CRIME to see him in the camp, deserving of prosecution by the law.


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4- Hosseini
He did well on many occasions, especially in 2nd half when he was assigned to mark rivaldo.
but in the first half, his lack of speed allowed a lot of room for that chilean fellow.

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a note on saipa:
their first goal was a classic case to be made for a team NEEDING width.

sharifinasab runs down the right side and ON THE RUN ( as opposed to many who stop. waste time for dribbling or changing foot or ... ), crosses the ball quick and low.
perfect execution.
and saipa did use these crosses far more and far better in the second half. the result is them exerting their authority in the last 45 minutes. testament to this is their countless dangerous opportunities.
they were just unlucky not to have scored on a couple of those.
they could have easily won the game.
moral of the story: ANY team needs width, if they want to get anything out of a game.


excellent game reading by littbarski for assigning hosseini to cover rivaldo whenever he got close to our 18.
this shd have been done in the first half too.
But I think the first half was WASTED becoz the team was in AWE of rivaldo and also didnt know much about that chilean chap who ran riot in our defense.
if saipa were more poised and composed from the first minute, I'm sure they wouldnt have conceded 2 goals that easily !


which brings me to the shameful matter of our tehrani fans, proving once again what a useless, brain-dead bunch of idiots they are ..... for chanting "rivaldo, rivaldo" in the second half, when it was saipa who needed support and encouragement !

inferiority complex to what extent ?

[Doctor DOOM]

At least the good thing is they can learn from this game and know what are the routes to put pressure on the uzbeks.

secondly, I dont think they'd be in awe of rivaldo the next time.
if they can manage to do what hosseini did to rivaldo in 2nd half , and try the same for the other chilean guy, then I think players like sharifinasab, Torre, kaabi and rahmati will be able to cause some damage.

I wasnt impressed with the uzbeks in our crosses.
put in razaghi along with torre ( to get some height advantage ) up front and I think we'd have a shot.

[TM-Fan]

About Parvin, I think he is a player with potential, but he played very selfishly in the second half. I hope Litbarski can teach him German team work.

The first Saipa goal was a beauty. I also hope to see more of these in the IPL and TM.

[Martin-Reza]

Parvin is also one of those wannabe playmakers who keeps the ball much too long. I have already given up on him.

Sadeghi actually was one of the better players. I always like Rahmati, nothing outstanding but a solid clever player.

Good to see Hosseini can also play in DM if necessary, although he is no Nekounam of course. Maybe the new Golmohammadi .

[yashar_fasihnia]

i think sadeghi played well today. he was all over the field, controlling saipa's midfield. he ran for the whole 90 minutes, all involved in challenges and always creating space for team mates.

parvin should learn to be less selfish. same with razaghirad.

we gave away stupid fouls infront of the penalty area specially kazem borjloo. he should control his tackles more.

i think the saipa team needs to work on its stamina, towards the end of the game when the team needed a goal, the second wave of attack from the midfield line was hardly seen.

i think once agian, saber mirghorbani was useless on the field. i would really like to see issa toure start with iman razaghirad.

i also think ashtiani with his technique and dribbling skills would be more effective than zeneydipour in openning up the layered defense of the uzbeks.

finally, i think kianoush rahmati is on top form lately. he had a good game. distributed the ball well, tackled all along and took some nice shots on goal.


its a pity abbas aghaei wont be available for saipa anymore because of his torn ligament. they have a good midfield and reasonably good defense.
their LB, ayoubi did ok. he is physically tall and strong, has a good pace, shows sign of maturity and is left footed if im not mistaken. maybe we can keep an eye on him in future games for TM LB position???

im only worried about our GK (sheikhveisi). this guy hardly has any experience inside IPL, forget international games!
and a bit our forward line. they dont look very potent.

we should go to tashkent with the aim of scoring. we cant rely on a 0-0 draw anymore.
so we should go there to score. im not so worried about being inferior to the uzbeks in midfield, im just worried that we wont be able to convert and we will concede and get knocked out!

hope it all goes well...

[maij]

The one important piece of play in the match that I like to highlight was the Rivaldo goal and how Jalal Hosseini made the SAME mistake as in the Saudi Arabia game which lead to their goal.

Rivaldo , being marked by Hosseini , quickly dispatched the ball to Jose Luis Villanueva on his left who was chased by another Saipa defender , yet Hosseini also went to the Chilean forward leaving Rivaldo all on his own. The Chilean then passed back to Rivaldo , and Hosseini was left with the impossible task of catching Rivaldo...He didn't and Rivalso slotted the ball like a professional.

Jalal Hosseini is a poor marker , and even one such lapse of concentration will cost his team dearly.

I did not consider Sadeghi as bad as Doc put him , he was full of running and tackling , but to very little effectiveness. He is a classical Iranian player who needs a few seconds before his next move or pass.

Kaebi wasn't bad ether , but some of his tackling , is just pure amateurish.

I consider Kianoush Rahmati as a very good player , but like Sadeghi he needs to be quicker in his moves. One touch football , is what is lacking.

Parvin: Not a Team Melli class of player. I don't know what will come of him in a few years from now , but he needs a loooottttt of education in modern football.

Majeed Ayoubi: A Classy defender.

Overall it was a fair result , although I think that Saipa will probably get eliminated in tashkent. They need to win , but with that sort of display , it will be very difficult , unless Littbarski can come up with a different strategy and specially in the forward line.

[Doctor DOOM]

granted that sadeghi was full of running.
I dont think anyone has ever accused him of "lack of running".
but mere "running" doesnt get us anywhere.
it has to have a purpose and shd be seen within a team's movements.

what really stood out for me was the large number of turn-overs off him and his bad passing.
the majority of his passes that did reach a siapa player was TO A PLAYER BEHIND HIM !!!!!
basically, if he was not there in the field, there wouldnt be anything taken amiss.

THIS may be forgiven at club level. but NOT anything close to "the best 22 man Iran has". nowhere near them!

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I agree w everyone on parvin.
but then again, he is very young and just a newcomer.
he needs to be more experienced and mature to use his gifts.
but definitely a potential for future.

[Martin-Reza]

Parvin isn't selfish, he just doesn't know what to do soon enough and since he has good technique tends to hold on to the ball and dribble. There is absolutely no future for this guy in TM I'm afraid.

[maij]

granted that sadeghi was full of running.
I dont think anyone has ever accused him of "lack of running".
but mere "running" doesnt get us anywhere.
it has to have a purpose and shd be seen within a team's movements.

Sadeghi seems to be all over the place in the class of English players who run for miles and miles in a game , hassle the opponents close on them and tackle. Some coaches love this sort of players, what some might term as a "Destroyer".

But when it comes to creativity and finesse , Sadgehi is quite far away from that. He does not seem to be impressive or creative. he does not even attempt to act like that , he has a specific job and he seems to conduct it fairly well.

Personally , he is not my type of favorite player and I would hardly think that many kids have Sadeghi's poster in their bedroom either, but I suppose his type and style are sometimes needed.

[maij]

Parvin isn't selfish, he just doesn't know what to do soon enough and since he has good technique tends to hold on to the ball and dribble. There is absolutely no future for this guy in TM I'm afraid.

I agree...His style is just not good enough for Team Melli , although he can , in odd cases , create some impressive play by pure individual talent.

But worst than him was Saber Mirghorbani. OH...this young man was completely and utterly lost. I wonder how long he will survive in Saipa?

[Doctor DOOM]

سرمربي تيم فوتبال سايپا گفت: از تجربيات بازي مقابل كروفچي در ديدار برگشت استفاده مي*كنم.

پير ليتبارسكي سرمربي تيم فوتبال سايپا پس از تساوي دو بر دو اين تيم مقابل نماينده ازبكستان در مرحله يك چهارم نهايي ليگ قهرمانان آسيا به خبرنگاران گفت: بازي بسيار خوبي را شاهد بوديم در نيمه اول كروفچي تيم برتر بود اما، در نيمه دوم ما بهتر از حريف كار كرديم.

وي افزود: كروفچي تيم قدرتمندي بود اما، سايپا از اين تيم قوي*تر بود. ما در نيمه دوم ازلحاظ يارگيري سيد جلال حسيني را مامور مهار ريوالدو كرديم كه او نتوانست كاري كند تا به همين دليل تعويض شد.

ليتبارسكي افزود: تصور مي*كنم براي بازي برگشت با توجه به شرايط قدرت بدني بازيكنان ما بسيار جلوتر از حريف هستيم و از شناخت*مان در بازي رفت براي بازي ازبكستان استفاده مي*كنيم.

وي خاطر نشان كرد: در نيمه اول بازي خط دفاع كروفچي عملكرد بسيار خوبي داشت اما در نيمه دوم تا اندازه*اي دفاع آنها باز بود و ما براي حمله به دروازه اين تيم از اين فرصت*ها استفاده كرديم.

ليتبارسكي در ادامه گفت: ما از تيم كروفچي شناخت چنداني نداشتيم ابتدا خيلي آرام و بااحتياط بازي كرديم اما در نيمه دوم تيم ما هجومي*تر بود و صاحب فرصت*هايي براي گل*زني شديم كه اين فرصت*ها از دست رفت.



re. sadeghi:
what I say is whatever he does on the field, almost every other midfielder at IPL can do.
and there are a handful of those who can do better.

[Kaveh]

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re. sadeghi:
what I say is whatever he does on the field, almost every other midfielder at IPL can do.
and there are a handful of those who can do better.

couldn't agree more

Although he did ok in this particular match, but generally, he has rarely shown anything outstanding or at least above the levels of the other IPL midfielders. Daei should think twice before selecting him.

[The-Red]

little off topic but concerning ACL of this coming season...it is obvious that our clubs are no where near challening for the ACL championship this coming season and Perspolis, Esteghlal and Sepahan are way behind where they have to be as far as Asia is concerned and that worries me...I watch these three every week in the IPL and wonder how short will be our this year's ACL run.
Kruvtchi-Saipa, as well as watching how some other clubs have being doing in Asia recently and improving, adds to my worries...The format of the ACL, allowing for only one team advancing simply means these three need to play to win every game and none have that ability at the moment, and to be honest, I don't think much will change in the next 3-4 months or so.
When you look carefully, out of Sepahan, Pas and Saipa who have made it through the first round so far since the ACL initiated less than 10 years ago, Pas was in a very easy group with one of its best teams of the recent years, still failed to make it past 8; Sepahan fully deserved to make it to the final after 3 tries in a row but that Sepahan team is not around anymore, not in spirit, not physically...Saipa only made it out due to being grouped in the easiest group of them and most likely will fail to progress,,, and this coming year we will go into ACL with a medicore Perspolis, far from top form Sepahan, and an below average esteghlal team,,,, Saipa's game in the return leg could be the last quarterfinal we'll watch in a while, but I truly hope I am wrong and maybe I am judging too early, giving too much credit to Asian club football and not enough to our own clubs

[Martin-Reza]

re. sadeghi:
what I say is whatever he does on the field, almost every other midfielder at IPL can do.
and there are a handful of those who can do better.

No, that is an illusion. Don't underrate this player because of personal disliking and unattractive play. For years we lacked such hardworking fighters with satisfying overview and physique. Kazemi and Kavianpour couldn't live up to the expectations and we had noone to put beside Nekounam. Then Teymourian popped up and now in Sadeghi we have a second option, someone who had played a vital role in Saipa's surprise league championship and so far successful ACL campaign.

[maij]

re. sadeghi:
what I say is whatever he does on the field, almost every other midfielder at IPL can do.
and there are a handful of those who can do better.

Hmmmmmmm...Of course you are right in a way. Because All other league players can do whatever team Melli players can do , the point is how often , how consistent and how better?

Like I said , Ebrahim Sadeghi is not Mr. Fantastic , but his stamina , running and hassling is not matched by everyone in the league.