Observations and player rankings Iran - Costa Rica

[Martin-Reza]

Let me tell you this. I DO NOT BELIEVE BRANKO IS AN HONEST WORKING MAN AS LONG AS DAIE PLAYS IN TM AND DOESNT GET SUBBED EVEN IN MATCHES LIKE THIS!

Daei was subbed out against Lybia in minute 78.

Daei didn't play at all against South Korea after an injury.

Daei was subbed out against Macedonia in minute 69.

Daei was subbed out against Togo in minute 62.

That were the four last matches in 2005.

Now he plays through twice again and Branko's not an honest working man.

[khabalood]

I don't believe in the Daei mafia rumours you find in the football forum. I do however heavily question the fact that Branko plays Daei a full 90 min knowing full well he has serious knee injury problems. I just don't see the point of him playing a full 90 with his health concerns while subs are warming the bench. I find it careless on Bran*** part that he disregards Daeis health concerns.

[zzgloo]

We simply had mexicans scared....as they warned themseleves not to take Iran lightly....
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/grafic...06/sel_ira.htm

[Doctor DOOM]

haji jan,
1- how can you say our left side problems are solved?

2- and then go on to say zareh is like kaabi on the left ?


our left side is limping terribly as usual. did you see ANYTHING worked from that side that is worth mentioning?

where was our left mid ?
hell ............WHO was our left mid?

did zareh add ANYTHING to our offensive game on the left ?


which brngs me to the second statement: kaabi-zareh

I think they are absolute OPPOSITES of each other.
while one guy uses his head, despite his slight built, the other is at best, an average defender .
while one guy is quick and skillful with the ball, and adds a tremendous weight to our offense with great sense of attacking football, the other is simply HORRENDOUS in all these .
he cant pass well, cant cross well,adds ZERO to the attack on the left.

while one guy is there based on his OWN MERITS and performances, the other is there becoz of our incompetent coach's brother who coaches him at his club !!!!

I am quite surprised to see you compare the two !

[Hadi]

Daei was subbed out against Lybia in minute 78.
Daei didn't play at all against South Korea after an injury.
Daei was subbed out against Macedonia in minute 69.
Daei was subbed out against Togo in minute 62.
That were the four last matches in 2005.
Now he plays through twice again and Branko's not an honest working man.

Martin Jan,
No I wasnt talking about the past. Thank god he was subbed-out in those 3 matches after years! I think that was only to release the pressure on Branko. In the
Libiya match, the whol nation was stunned to see him subbed. Doesnt that tell you that something has been wrong. That he wasnt being subbed when he deserved to?


I am saying that clearly, in the recent 2 matches, there was a need to sub him in the Costa Rica match and also he shouldnt have even played againts Taiwan
because they were so weak that we would have been better off to test other strikers. but again, he played and wasnt subbed.

[faraz]

while one guy is there based on his OWN MERITS and performances, the other is there becoz of our incompetent coach's brother who coaches him at his club !!!!

Prove this statement. Back-up your talk, and prove it. Do you have audio of Branko and his brother discussing TM players?

[BehzadB]

Martin Jan,
....................................and also he shouldnt have even played againts Taiwan because they were so weak that we would have been better off to test other strikers. but again, he played and wasnt subbed.

As long as the goals Count he will be in there, full 90. These are his last games. He may only play another 4/5 or 6 official games. That's all.

I think, Dadkan and IR want to give daie every chance to score as many as he can, Because they want daie's goal record to remain untouched for ever.

The problem is that we Iranians haveing nothing in the world of football, can be "alaki khosh" with these records. IN reality They mean nothing.

No one in Iran remembered or even cared who had scored more goals in the History, untill Daie approached that number. AND now we are the only people that remember. But No one else does. because noone else cares.

This goal "tally" of Daie has hurt TM in the last 4 years and will conitnue to HURT TM at the WC. I just hope it was worth it for Daie and Dadkan and co. Because, I promise you, a week after he retires No one will care how many goals he has scored (beside daie and a few people), but everyone remembers Danaiefard's goal, Estili's Goal and Kia's goal. Hope he gets his too, otherwise.... all those goals (the record) will mean very little.

[Hajagha]

haji jan,
1- how can you say our left side problems are solved?

2- and then go on to say zareh is like kaabi on the left ?

1, I noticed several forwarding attempt and fairly good defensive job. He was OK, however I am not looking for some thing extraordinary from him. He was an average player, then we have no immediate problem and should focus in some other area.

2, Did we watch the same game? What I saw was a very weak and uninspired Ka'abi. Particularly in this game our left side was much stronger than right side bcz of absence of Kia and bad performance of Ka'abi plus a good performance from Zare, Zandi and specially Madanchi.

Cheers

[Doctor DOOM]

1- faraz jan, one doesnt have to have a recording of anything to assume why a sub-par player has a fixed starting spot at TM, while there are other players much more deserving than him ( who incidentally perform far better than him in the same league ) dont get a call, or if they are called, dont get to play even a few seconds.

it is as simple as that.

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haji jan,

1- as I said elsewhere, if you refer to manssor jan's pictorials on our left side , of a few months ago, you'd see why I say it is not solved, as things remain in the same abysmal state.

zandi doesnt stay on the left, which creates a world of space for the opponents.
zareh cant attack , and cant cross from the left either. ( I am NOT talking about "attempts" here. he may "attempt", but what's the point in counting attempts when they fail almost all the time? )
his passing isnt all that good either.
he does make mistakes in defense too

so basically the picture on the left is:

A) huge spaces exploited by the opponents
B) lack of half decent offense
c) at best, average defense

shd we be happy with this?

when we have a PROVEN talent like Mani'ee with excellent record in assists and scoring , playing at the top of his form , one must be extremely lajbaaz or highly incompetent or blind ( or any combination of these ) not to even call up the fellow, ... when such problems still exist in the team.


2- you refer to a game, I point to our left side as a whole in the past few years.
just "one game" ( lets assume that average performance was actually a brilliant one ) does NOT mean the problems are solved.

and if you take the right side performances and showings in the past year, the left is nowhere near it.

[BehzadB]

......................... dont get a call, or if they are called, dont get to play even a few seconds.

it is as simple as that.

that has been a big puzzle for me too.

The coach calls up a younger player for TWO meaningless games, and the OLD men Daie and Gol get to start and finish.


I just wonder about two things (well I used to , not anymore)

1. I wonder WHAT those older players were trying to get BETTER at after all these years by playing in these stupid games. What aspect of Daie's and Golmohamadi's games was brnko trying to TEST?

2. I wonder, HOW "not playing" would help that first time TM player that was called up and never got to play.

If it was our last friendly before the WC, I would undrestand. If it was a "countable" game i would say he Only cares about results. But these were two weak, meaningless, "for practice" games for us and our coach keeps wasting these "few" chances that we have till the WC.

When he took out Naveedkia with 3 minutes to go, I really felt bad for the kid and I am embarresed by what Branko did. He could have easily taken another OLDER player out. and I though he was the master of psycology!!!

[Doctor DOOM]

behzad jan, just as that "kish camp" was just an eye-wash for the naive & gullible fans ( who actually thought he's going to reform, many other decisions of his are as horrible and decietful.

what can we expect from a coach who insists on trying a failed idea again and again and again ( playing nosrati or zareh at LB , when it is clear they are NOT the right players for this position ) !!

.............. unless he's a master tactician by placing a right footed ( right back or central defender ) at LEFT side .....TO CONFUSE THE OPPOSITION !!!!!!

their inability to do anything worthy will surely confuse and confound the opponents into thinking : "there OUGHT TO be a reason for such crass and stupid decision. maybe the player will suddeenly explode into a roberto carlos' grand father or lizzarazu's great grandfather or ..... !!!!!"

and they'll watch & zoom in on this position thru'out the game ( expecting the impending explosion ), so much that they'll forget about the rest of the game.

[Hajagha]

...you refer to a game, I point to our left side as a whole in the past few years.
just "one game" ( lets assume that average performance was actually a brilliant one ) does NOT mean the problems are solved.

and if you take the right side performances and showings in the past year, the left is nowhere near it.

This topic is about "Observations and player rankings Iran - Costa Rica", each game stands for itself.

I saw relatively a good performance from the left side and I stay opptimistic that stay this way or even get better.

Cheers

[Doctor DOOM]

This topic is about "Observations and player rankings Iran - Costa Rica", each game stands for itself.
Cheers

fair enough haji jan.
if we have to take this game only, then we shd not discuss the overall picture of the position.
maybe in another thread.

cheers

[Martin-Reza]

I am saying that clearly, in the recent 2 matches, there was a need to sub him in the Costa Rica match and also he shouldnt have even played againts Taiwan
because they were so weak that we would have been better off to test other strikers. but again, he played and wasnt subbed.

Hadi jan, I think if the skipper, who is not planned as part-time worker, didn't play through since summer 2005, it was time to let him play through again. I would have had no problem if he got subbed out in one of the matches, but it's not really a problem when he plays the full 90 minutes twice after not having done so in four consecutive matches.