Ashjari

[Hajagha]

[Hadi]

I think Ashjari can be the left back we have been looking for in the past 6 years.

If you focus on his individual performance in the last 2 matches, it was very impressive defensively.

To be honest, I would risk it and put him in the South Korea match, if its between him and Zare.

[Martin-Reza]

As Zare is not more than the one-eyed among the blind we of course desperately look for a leftback alternative.

I'm not yet sure if Ashjari can improve our situation (I only saw him against Ecuador), but he is one of a few deserving a closer look.

Zare of course has experience being in TM since 2004, that's why I would still rely on him against South Korea.

Not to forget he is even older than Zare, turning 29 (DOB: 18.02.1979) soon and actually also is an RM if this info is correct:

http://www.footballworldsgame.com/fo...ashjari-48342/

[maij]

I did not realize that he was that old !!

I remember he was playing for Malavan , though.

I am not that concerned if he replaces the more experienced Zare , as I don't think Zare is irreplaceable either. However , I am still not that thrilled , if that is the right word , he does not seem to have anything special.

Yes , why not.....give the guy a chance and let his footwork do the talking.

[IranJavidan]

I am puzzled by the fact that Iranian football as a whole does not have ONE, just ONE LB better than Sattar Zareh?

To an extent that most of our recent TM coaches have played him out of position?

Be it Ashjari, Feshangchi, Heydari, Amirabadi, or anyone else.... I just think that Zare needs to be replaced immediately. He simply makes too many mistakes for a defender.

[RaginG Inferno]

He deserves a shot, because we are weak in this position.

[Masoud_A]

I dont want to look like im jumping on the bandwagon or that im praising him because he plays in ZZ, its that I have seen more than 10 games of ZZ and him, the guy has good defensive abilities much better than zare and he is deadly with his left foot try reviewing his goals for ZZ in 90 if you got them in your archive, im sure he can do much better than zare.

[shayan20]

It's really sad to see in a country with football its major sport, you can barely find 2-3 decent LB players to play in national team.
Everytime I see Zare in that position, he doesn't look comfortable, and I feel he will give a sooti.
But Ashjari seems more comfortable and is very stable in that position(I have also seen more of ZZ games this season).

I want to see more of him during some good friendlies.
Then we can judge whether he should start against SK or not.

[maij]

I am beginning to wonder....Does a team really needs a left footer to operate on the left flank ???

[Hajagha]

Thanks guys. Good points were raised here:

1, He is not that young I thought.

2, He is not playing left D in his club.

3, His has deadly left foot at least in his club.

4, It is puzzle why we don't have any good left D? Even the candidate ones in TM are not playing in that position in their club.

I guess I have an answer for the last one. I think we haven't understood yet how a true flat-4 defensive line works in Iran. When you have 4 defenders in one line, it means your left and right D must be handling the ball like attacking mid and be fast like forward. Such a player usually is positioned in the midfield in Iran. That's why if you want a left or right D in TM, you should look for the midfielder with ability in defense.

The traditional coaching in Iran are still more comfortable with big defenders in their defensive line. That's why we don't see a fast, technical player in the last line in our clubs.

Cheers,

[Hajagha]

I am beginning to wonder....Does a team really needs a left footer to operate on the left flank ???

Yes. At least he must be very (yyyyyyy) comfortable with his left as a defender, or he always
turn inside to his right-foot. As a right footed player, I can almost play everywhere except as a left D.

You never see Kaebi been in the left, but Gholamnejad or Amirabadi were there, why? because Kaebi has no left.

[Masoud_A]

Haji he actaully plays as a left D in ZZ.

[Doctor DOOM]

I dont want to look like im jumping on the bandwagon or that im praising him because he plays in ZZ, its that I have seen more than 10 games of ZZ and him, the guy has good defensive abilities much better than zare and he is deadly with his left foot try reviewing his goals for ZZ in 90 if you got them in your archive, im sure he can do much better than zare.

Ok. It seems among all of us, you & Shayan have the more complete knowledge of his capabilities.

I have seen his defending and compared whoever we've had in the past 4 years at TM, his defending seems to be far better ( by no means am I saying his defending is fantastic. but given his position, the general problematic left back position.... ).
So I can safely say I'm pretty satisfied with his "defending".

But in these 2 games, what I wanted to see and hardly got to see was how he performs his "attacking" duties such as overlapping, crossing, shooting, .... etc.

Perhaps you can shed some light on these duties so we'd know what to expect.

From what I saw, since these were his very first INTERNATIONAL games, I'd allow for some apprehension and conservatism in his performance.... As long as he is capable of more attacking ( hence my question on his club performance where he seems to shine and is comfortable with )


thanks

[Doctor DOOM]

I am beginning to wonder....Does a team really needs a left footer to operate on the left flank ???

I'd say that is not necessary at all, in my opinion.

the more important thing is "HOW" he approaches the mark, the ball, the runner, ... ?
is he able to pivot on the correct foot in the correct direction shd his mark pass him?
Is he able to tackle correctly with either foot, considering the touchline on his left?
How does he cross in his attacks? does he use his left foot to cross... or does he stop the ball and shift it to his right foot to cross ( which wastes the time and momentum, thus allowing for a tackle or marking by opponent defenders )

and some other aspects of the duties of a left back.

as long as player X can satisfy these criteria, I'd say it is irrelevant if he's right footed or left footed.

[Masoud_A]

Ok. It seems among all of us, you & Shayan have the more complete knowledge of his capabilities.

I have seen his defending and compared whoever we've had in the past 4 years at TM, his defending seems to be far better ( by no means am I saying his defending is fantastic. but given his position, the general problematic left back position.... ).
So I can safely say I'm pretty satisfied with his "defending".

But in these 2 games, what I wanted to see and hardly got to see was how he performs his "attacking" duties such as overlapping, crossing, shooting, .... etc.

Perhaps you can shed some light on these duties so we'd know what to expect.

From what I saw, since these were his very first INTERNATIONAL games, I'd allow for some apprehension and conservatism in his performance.... As long as he is capable of more attacking ( hence my question on his club performance where he seems to shine and is comfortable with )


thanks

actually I wasa kind of surprised not to see him much in attacks, he usually
get himself behind the box for rebounds, or storms in with a one-two and stuff like this, thats how he has scored like 4-5 for ZZ so far.