After watching two ACL games today, seeing our top teams losing one after one, both at home and away, I wounder if we will see any football glory in coming 3-4 years. Very sad. This is what I was talking about in my previous thread " Are we any good at all". Our top teams cant even beat mediocre Qatari teams.
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Originally posted by Essi View PostAfter watching two ACL games today, seeing our top teams losing one after one, both at home and away, I wounder if we will see any football glory in coming 3-4 years. Very sad. This is what I was talking about in my previous thread " Are we any good at all". Our top teams cant even beat mediocre Qatari teams.
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Pretty much.
Iran has relied on 'raw talents' being thrown in the midst of the football system(Azizi, Karimi, Mahdavikia, Daei), instead of building a system that can produce talents.
When the reliance is placed on the system, there is some measure of consistency(see Australia, for example). However, when the system needs to hope that a miracle player comes along every few years, when he doesn't come...well, we find ourselves in 2009.Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.
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i think i should mention one thing:
when our leagues top perfomers are at this level, it should indicate where our real football is in asia.
when these same players who are getting owned in ACL by teams from uzbekistan and qatar are supposedly superstars in IPL, it clearly shows how much we are OVER ESTIMATING our players.
why dont we ask ourselves how many of our IPL "stars" have failed to shine on an international level?
our players might have more potential or be more skilled than other nationality players, but overall, our players arent good enough and have MAJOR football flaws.
add to that our weak infrastructure, our poor management, our incapable coaches and that pulls us further down!Last edited by yashar_fasihnia; 04-07-2009, 05:41 PM.
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Originally posted by Martin-Reza View PostI have another theory connected to my thread.
No team with an Iranian coach can be successful over a longer period.
Maybe it is too easy, but it might be the key.
all the above said, I also think we should not overreact and remember that in football often events and decisions during a game change a game and at the moment we are just going through some bad times and that's not to say that what you all said is not correct, but I am sure this phase shall pass too and there is enough in our football to pull through these bad times.Last edited by The-Red; 04-07-2009, 06:21 PM.sigpic
Salute to anyone who stands against these barbaric, inhumane and irrational laws of ANY religion.
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football makes a lot of money, so there are plenty of wolves around it.
Football is also a very good Political tool, so there are plenty of politicians around it. These two facts are true every where.
take those facts about football, and add the fact that in Iran, it is the Government that owns the whole football apparatus. he, who owns it, runs it.
So, let's recap.
Money, political gain, ran by government people!
Platform all set up for disaster.
Look at our Volleyball, Basketball and futsal teams! they haven't done too bad. in fact they have done awesome. and they too are run and managed by the same IR, the same mullahs, the same STB, the same country, the same people..
Why is that?
IMO, because there is no money in them. so the assholes and wolves, stay away for the most parts..
I am sure you have all heard : "football-e ma sahaab nadareh"! well, Sahaab nadareh pool ham ziad toosh hast.. what can we expect to get back when both are true??
the mess that we have on our hand.
Privatization, that's the only way.
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I'm afraid I must bring this up again after today's games. Sepahan losing at home, their own coach (Kazemi) admitted that they didnt manage to create a one single goal opportunity while PP was trashed by this unknown Qatari team. I mean I dont remember when was last time a Iranian team in a international competition conceded 5 goals!!!
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Originally posted by maij View Post
Unless football is organized and managed competently and to the highest possible degree of professionalism, the success of Iranian football will be far apart, periodic and patchy.
Unless there is a serious progress of mentality and culture, success will be rare and sporadic.
Unless there is an effective program of resource management in football, the chances of winning trophies and championships will be low.
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