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    #16
    Originally posted by Hajagha View Post
    - I read your previous post once more.
    - Turkey example: You talk about tolerance by a big number of people, I talk about individuals. you and me. You tolarate and let the society follow you.
    - Value: Have you heard about "valued brothers" or "baradaran arzeshi" slogan in Iran? It doesn't sound so favourite inside Iran. I found your post push the same senario with different value, I may be wrong.
    - Your post was so passionate, I thought you are young. I didn't mean any offense and I didn't mean immaturity.
    - I have to work on my psots to not have the impression of self absorbtion,out of touch,outsider mentality.
    - As self medication, I should tolerate any kind of views. Yours included.
    Cheers,
    Haji e Aziz...............I should Tolerate you too, as you are far easier to Tolerate
    I also try to understand what is that you are saying !!!,as well as,leting you know, there are others who think differently.......and this is what AFGAN people are not doing,and talebans are running the country without opposition from inside.....and that is the whole point of my post....Tolerance, yet being heard !
    And as far as Being passionate........., it is the least I am doing for likes of those who were raped in the ASS,more than twenty times,and had rectum infection !................
    I feel like they ****ed my ass !
    ( learning from you ) Cheers !

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      #17
      Originally posted by Hajagha View Post
      Majid jan, I am yet to call Governmental-Team, Team Melli. I have no hope for this governmental, overpaid and noncompetitive football. Imagine Liverpool and Chesea were making their fans that much mad, how much money they were losing? How much would their stock drop?

      So, the whole football is fake. Put your beer into freezer for 17 minutes, then bring it our, open it, sip the extra cold beer and laugh at their entire stupid government from top to the bottom.





      So , knowing all these facts about the absurd , amateurish and comical status of Iranian football that is quite often a source of depression and disgrace for any passionate fan , I wonder why is there this inner feeling that makes me switch channels to IRIB , or come back home early or even cancel appointments to see the boyz engage in their silly display of football ???




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        #18
        Originally posted by zzgloo View Post
        I also try to understand what is that you are saying !!!,as well as,leting you know, there are others who think differently.......
        I hear you aziz too, but I already separted the guilty ones from uniformed ones, here it was:

        Originally posted by Hajagha View Post
        I think Sourian and Rezazadeh's act is way different than some one like Ghotbi. The first two believe what they did, the last one did just because of money, pure money.
        Ghotbi is the digrace, Sourian is just "stupid".

        Cheers

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          #19
          Originally posted by maij View Post
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          It is like I see myself in the mirror.

          A question Majid jan, are you supporting a team or beautiful football? I am the second one. I easily change my team based on the players, coaches, style of the game,...

          Now, I am all the way for Liverpool, Arsenal, Barca and Real. Last year I couldn't decide between Barca and ManU. Last Worldcup I was for Portugal, this time, I am all Spain.

          I just love soccer, I can't help myself. My passionate about football is much more than Iranian football which I still love (mmmm maybe like now).

          Cheers

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            #20
            Originally posted by zzgloo View Post
            I am Appalled...........!!!!!
            Did " Sooyian " not know anything about, mass demonstrations ?
            Did " Soorian " not know about,prison tortures ? rapes ?.....did Sooyian not know about likes of " Neda Agha Soltan " ?
            He did, and he made a choice !
            under a system like the IR Soorian and his likes have been, are being, and will be used as toys for the regime propaganda ... simple as that

            do we know what the circumstances were under which Rezazadeh, Soorian and others were made to do what they did? no we don't, and we will never know till this regime is in place

            ستايشگر آموزگاری هستم که انديشيدن را
            به من بياموزد و نه انديشه ها را. زرتشت

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              #21
              Originally posted by Mr.Click View Post
              under a system like the IR Soorian and his likes have been, are being, and will be used as toys for the regime propaganda ... simple as that

              do we know what the circumstances were under which Rezazadeh, Soorian and others were made to do what they did? no we don't, and we will never know till this regime is in place
              ............
              Why do we have to understand thier situation ? and they not haveing to have to of ours ?.....
              why , millions of youth, same age as Soorian, come out and risk thier life , for IRAN and us, ...and they , Soorian and Reza zadeh, get the benefit of the doubt ?.....
              It is a similare argument I have with " Hajagha ",..as in any country, there is always forces of progress and forces of " Reaction "....even in USA, Democrats and Republican, have to fight it out..and millions voted for " Bush",and are now against " Social health care which has been a parodox in american society !!!...............
              But, the major point is, unless, the forces of progress , do not come out, and show thier " will ", and show thier " Majority ", the forces of " Reaction ", ( ERTEJA ) ( Against progress ), would never find out what is a "true path " ,and will claim ,thier view as reality,and claim the country.
              .....
              Here is the Million Dollar question :
              How could likes of " Soorian " understand, they can not sell people to authurities so cheap next time ?......and the answer is, we, the majority should let them know, while they are tolerated, they are no longer a faivorit of the land,let alone being heros !
              We must be heard, and draw a line, specialy at this very decisive jucture....other wise....we will deserve this islamic republic !........Khalayegh har che layegh .......what do you think we deserve ?!.......show it !...or you will lose it !
              Last edited by zzgloo; 10-07-2009, 08:37 AM.

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                #22
                haji jan, there are two possibilities here and either way you look at it, Soorian is guilty.

                possibility 1 - He, as you said, truly believes in AN and truly thinks the movement is orchestrated by US/UK axis and neda was killed by foreign agents, and the torture in iranian prisons were done by foreign agents, and all the evidence proving tampering and doctoring the votes are mere tricks, and the 1000's & tens of 1000's of ppl voicing their dissent are "foreign agents" and .... basically whatever IRIB feeds the sheep in Iran.
                here's he's guilty of ignorance and lack of intelligence, .... or in other words, guilty of being a sheep.

                or

                2- he knows all that which has happened and despite all this knowledge, still backs AN.
                which makes him guilty of treachery, of being a disgraceful evil person with no conscience.


                I'd like to slot him in the first group, perhaps not wanting to believe our sporting heroes could be that evil minded.




                now, if we want to be very generous and kind to him we can say he could be guilty of being weak minded as well by not believing in anything these dirtbags are about, but having been FORCED by the gov't to make this gesture ... even if reluctantly.

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                to Mrclick:
                as far as rezazadeh is concerned, he's been campaigning for AN way before the elections and that fits very well with the picture I have of him which is an uneducated, unexposed small town person who's gifted with the ability to lift heavy objects.
                as a sportsman, I guess I would back him.
                but as an Iranian, he's a huge let down to me and frankly I dont even consider him intelligent at all.

                so rezazadeh's case is very different from soorian and other soorians. and certainly from a sell-out like ghotbi.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View Post
                  haji jan,

                  here's he's guilty of ignorance and lack of intelligence, .... or in other words, guilty of being a sheep.
                  Since when being stupid is a crime?

                  Peyman joon, baba the only thing this guy knows is wrestiling. He probably is from poor family, uneducated, being involved in sport and spending the bigger portion of his day in sport arena...

                  ...and last and not least, his head hit the ground so many times.

                  baba, leave the poor guy alone, he is just a wrestler, like a driver, like a doorman, like a janitor. He didn't come out from library finishing political master-book or didn't finish a debate in Withe-House and decided to dedicate his medal to A.N.. As we say " bache jav-gir shodeh".

                  You guys are just mad bcz A.N. got a popular endorcement and you have all the right to be angry.

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