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    What do you guys think? The formation with Mobali as OM is simply not working, if we have a OM like Ballack, Lampard, it would work but Mobali is just too slow and he isn't able to think and play equally!

    The situation, where he lost the ball was just too pathetic... He deserved the yellow card! Not for yelling, but for this stupid way to play modern football.

    Next topic!

    Without any doubt: 4-2-3-1 is the only possible formation for Iran!!!!
    TEAM MELLI UNTIL THE END

    #2
    It is nothing against Mobali in that case, but it's simply not his position to play as second DM/CM in a 4-2-3-1. He should have two guys behind him to have his back and concentrate on the offensive duties he's strong in.

    I liked Beikzadeh as leftback though. Not everything he did was good, but he seems an interesting option for that weakspot of ours.

    I was glad to see Kaebi back as RB, he definitely added stability, although some bashers will again blame him for Pandev's header.

    I think Kazemian wasted his chance today, Meydavoudi was only slightly better.

    I think sth obvious today was that Ghotbi forbid his defenders to send high balls forward. Throughout the game they relied on short-passing in build-up. Wasn't always good, but still better than all those senseless long balls.

    Else, not much to say.

    Fair draw in my opinion.

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      #3
      what a boring game.
      the blasted rain in made it EVEN WORSE!!!

      nothing much to say about his drag of a game except:
      - nice goal by Iran.
      - mobali and khalatbari shd have gotten yellow cards for their protests
      - marg bar baraan
      - nice to see shots taken at TM games
      - ando's shooting has been impressive in the past few games
      - shojaei continues his weak performances
      - rain ruined the game's potential
      - goal conceded is yet another carbon copy of many others goals conceded due to kaabi's missing in action and his distance from the central def
      - nosrati's ONLY position is the CB and not on the sides
      - Rain ruined the game
      - boring game and 2 hours of my life that I'll never get back!!
      - ansarifard deserves a starting position. showed great promise in the past few games
      - beginning to think ghotbi DELIBERATELY starts with the wrong line up ... only to correct it in the second half and then be able to boast he did better in the "coaches' half"!!!!!
      - .... oh, did I mention the rain crapping all over the game?

      ============

      btw, dear persianallstars from vienna, I know it's become a cliche' ... but it just suits this occasion so well I cant resist saying it:
      what are you smoking and how can I get my hands on one too?

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        #4
        The story of "Deeeg" and "Abkesh" continued as expected (for those of you who dont know and of course are interested in what I am talking about, please refer to my post Iran - Jordan thread).

        Positive note: as MR jan mentioned, no more craptastic long balls from Defensive line.

        Shojaee & Nekunam: Can someone please tell me why they played?

        Kazemian: Horrible performance! and I am trying to be nice here

        Ando: Solid in the past two games...

        The rest: blahhhhhh!

        Overall TM performance: Lost in no-mans-land without having access to google maps... Poor TM!!!

        Ghotbi: you continue to amaze me man, keep up the good work... it just keeps getting better and better (same goes for dastiyar holandiye)

        Natijeye footballi: In case of insomnia, ask your doctor about the new sleeping pill available for free on the internet; "TM's recent matches"

        P.S.: I am sure someone somewhere in an interview with some newspaper will blame the rain for some team's truly amazing performance
        Last edited by TrueBlue; 11-18-2009, 10:45 AM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by TrueBlue View Post
          Positive note: as DD jan mentioned, no more craptastic long balls from Defensive line.
          Shall I be flattered or insulted because you confused me with DD ?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Martin-Reza View Post
            Shall I be flattered or insulted because you confused me with DD ?
            OH DANG!!! Many thousand appologies Mis-Typing noted and corrected!
            Mokhlesim MR jan

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              #7
              np, I understand that two people whose views harmonize so much can easily be mixed up

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                #8
                Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View Post
                btw, dear persianallstars from vienna, I know it's become a cliche' ... but it just suits this occasion so well I cant resist saying it:
                what are you smoking and how can I get my hands on one too?
                aziz, it's a very good stuff and its called "UNDERSTANDING". You can have some if you like my friend . I suggest you must acknowledge that you are wrong "for the first time" .

                and besides, you're absolutely right, I had to smoke something otherwise I couldnt image how I would have survived Mobali's "superb" performance .
                Last edited by persianallstars; 11-18-2009, 11:11 AM.
                TEAM MELLI UNTIL THE END

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                  #9
                  It was good opportunity to field some of U21 players for experience since IFF refuse to schedule a decent game for them. Alas Ghotbi did not do that.

                  Ghotbi should have selected a young CD for experience in such games. He prefer experienced players but unwilling to try more of U21 players.
                  It is good he finally trusted Ansarifard and so far he has good appearances, why not giving more chances to others? Both Hajsafi and Ansarifard have played several international games with U16, U19 in the past just like other members of Omid team.


                  Beside Athletic and physical gift players should be smart and some of TM players were not smart game wise today.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Martin-Reza View Post
                    np, I understand that two people whose views harmonize so much can easily be mixed up
                    hehehe
                    good one. repped duly

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by St_Mark View Post
                      It was good opportunity to field some of U21 players for experience since IFF refuse to schedule a decent game for them. Alas Ghotbi did not do that.

                      Ghotbi should have selected a young CD for experience in such games. He prefer experienced players but unwilling to try more of U21 players.
                      It is good he finally trusted Ansarifard and so far he has good appearances, why not giving more chances to others? Both Hajsafi and Ansarifard have played several international games with U16, U19 in the past just like other members of Omid team.


                      Beside Athletic and physical gift players should be smart and some of TM players were not smart game wise today.
                      Well said.

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                        #12
                        Fact of the matter is, whenever Ghotbi does action A someone here will say he should do action B where B is not equal to A. We are just culturally used to it.... Can't change thousands of years of Iranian evolution.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by St_Mark View Post
                          It is good he finally trusted Ansarifard and so far he has good appearances, why not giving more chances to others? Both Hajsafi and Ansarifard have played several international games with U16, U19 in the past just like other members of Omid team.


                          Beside Athletic and physical gift players should be smart and some of TM players were not smart game wise today.
                          now, this is something that gets me interested:
                          gradually injecting kaveh rezaei into the team. although one of the rare good things ghotbi's done is trusting ansarifard.
                          so I wouldnt mind seeing kaveh getting a few minutes here n there to gain experience and slowly find his place in the team.
                          I seriously see no problem a team having a couple of teenagers in their 23 man roster

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View Post
                            now, this is something that gets me interested:
                            gradually injecting kaveh rezaei into the team. although one of the rare good things ghotbi's done is trusting ansarifard.
                            so I wouldnt mind seeing kaveh getting a few minutes here n there to gain experience and slowly find his place in the team.
                            I seriously see no problem a team having a couple of teenagers in their 23 man roster
                            The idea undoubtedly sounds interesting, but one might also ruin a young player if he's pushed too early. It's really hard to judge from far away. Generally I'd recommend to wait a little bit, the guy is barely 17. But some, like Kaebi, are already ready in that age.

                            Originally posted by St_Mark View Post
                            Today for first time finally Jalali played both Gholamreza Rezaei and Kaveh Rezaei in a friendly match. Former TM player and UAE reject did not do well and sidelined for injury while Kaveh Rezaei played well and scored. It’s just one game but a good coach with vision won’t waste valuable resources and times testing repeatedly failed players.
                            Did I miss out on sth? Is G. Rezaei playing for Foolad now?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Martin-Reza View Post
                              The idea undoubtedly sounds interesting, but one might also ruin a young player if he's pushed too early. It's really hard to judge from far away. Generally I'd recommend to wait a little bit, the guy is barely 17. But some, like Kaebi, are already ready in that age.



                              Did I miss out on sth? Is G. Rezaei playing for Foolad now?
                              Yes , he moved to Foulad with new controversy. Although both parties deny, part of deal was for Foulad to hire his brother too.

                              Now he is playing for Foulad, his broyjrt for Foulad novin (Lig1).

                              From Jaleb news

                              غلامرضا رضایی: داستان من و این باشگاه به لجبازی کشیده شدوقتی چنین اتفاق هایی افتاد من و زارع دوست داشتیم به ایران برگردیم تا اینکه پول بازیکنان را دادند و فقط پول من پرداخت نشد. اختلافات بابت این موضوع بیشتر شد. حتی از این تیم شکایت هم کردم اما بعد به این نتیجه رسیدم که در سن و سالی نیستم که ذهن خودم را درگیر این مسائل کنم. به هر حال با توجه به پرس و جوهایی که کردم به این نتیجه رسیدم به ایران بازگردم. مهاجم جدید تیم فوتبال فولاد خوزستان گفت: در فوتبال امارات خبر خاصی نبود و دوست داشتم به ایران برگردم.

                              غلامرضا رضایی در گفت و گو با فارس درباره بازگشت خود به فوتبال ایران و پیوستن به فولاد خوزستان صحبت های زیر را مطرح کرد:

                              *در امارات خبری نبود
                              در امارات خبر خاصی نبود. به آنجا رفتم که همه چیز بهتر شود اما قسمت بود آنجا نمانم. در امارات هر چه شنیده بودم اتفاق نیفتاد. گفته بودند در این کشور پرداختی ها به موقع و سر وقت است اما نمی دانم از شانس من بود یا قسمت بود که تا دو ماه به هیچ فردی در باشگاه الامارات پولی پرداخت نشد. بین هیات مدیره اختلاف ایجاد شده بود و به همین دلیل پول نمی دادند.

                              * با مربی و هیات مدیره مشکل داشتم
                              در باشگاه الامارات هر عضو هیات مدیره بازیکنی که دوست داشته بود، جذب کرده بود و به همین دلیل من در این باشگاه به مشکل خوردم. قبل از اینکه لیگ شروع شود می دانستم با این تیم به بن بست می خورم. نمی خواهم بهانه بیاورم اما وقتی این برخوردها می شد انگیزه ام را از دست می دادم. مربی می گفت چرا خوب تمرین نمی کنی. من هم گفتم نه این تیم پول می دهد و نه برخوردها درست است. از طرفی در تمرین که بازیکن نمی تواند معجزه کند.

                              *دوست داشتم به ایران برگردم
                              وقتی چنین اتفاق هایی افتاد من و زارع دوست داشتیم به ایران برگردیم تا اینکه پول بازیکنان را دادند و فقط پول من پرداخت نشد. اختلافات بابت این موضوع بیشتر شد. حتی از این تیم شکایت هم کردم اما بعد به این نتیجه رسیدم که در سن و سالی نیستم که ذهن خودم را درگیر این مسائل کنم. به هر حال با توجه به پرس و جوهایی که کردم به این نتیجه رسیدم به ایران بازگردم.

                              *فولاد در دور بدشانسی است
                              تیم های زیادی با من در تماس بودند اما تصمیم گرفتم با توجه به روراستی باشگاه فولاد، این تیم را انتخاب کنم. مدیران این تیم کار بلد هستند. وضعیت این تیم در جدول خوب نیست اما تیم خوبی هستند و فقط در دور بدشانسی هستند. این تیم روی غلطک برد باشد از این شرایط خارج می شود. با مجید جلالی تا به حال کار نکرده ام اما یکی از دلایلی که این تیم را انتخاب کردم او بود. می دانم که می تواند به فولاد کمک کند.

                              * جلوی ضرر از هرجا گرفته شود، منفعت است
                              با تیم الامارات دیگر مشکلی ندارم و قراردادم را با آنها فسخ کرده ام. هر چند که برای مدتی وقتم به هدر رفت اما جلوی ضرر را بیشتر از اینکه به من آسیب برساند گرفتم. مشکل من با الامارات فنی نبود. اصلا باید فوتبال این تیم را می دیدید تا متوجه شوید بحث فنی در کار نبود. داستان من و این باشگاه به لجبازی کشیده شد. هیچ کسی فکر نمی کرد کار به اینجا برسد. با هر کسی که مشورت می کردم می گفتند من آنجا موفق می شوم. اگر می توانستم بازی کنم شرایط این طور نمی شد. البته من از اتفاقی که برایم افتاد خوشحال هستم. حتما صلاحی در کار بوده است. در فوتبال امارات باید در تیم های خوب بازی کنی. تیم هایی که به لحاظ مالی شرایط بهتری دارند و هم فنی تیم های خوبی هستند.

                              * دوباره به تیم ملی باز می گردم
                              من در اردوی تیم ملی مصدوم شدم و از اردوها دور شدم. قطبی از وضعیت من خبر دارد. مطمئن هستم که دوباره به این تیم ملی برمی گردم. فقط باید چند بازی برای فولاد انجام دهم تا دوباره به شرایط خوب خود باز گردم.

                              * استیل آذین تیم خوبی است
                              وقتی آدم تصمیم به کاری می گیرد و خوب از آب در نمی آید، بحث پشیمانی از این تصمیم هم به فکر می آید اما زمانی که تصمیم به ترک استیل آذین گرفتم فکر نمی کردم چنین اتفاق هایی رخ دهد. استیل آذین تیم خوبی است و روزی که با آنها قرارداد بستم دلم با این تیم بود.

                              * فوتبال برادرم بهتر از من است
                              کدام عاقلی قبول می کند من برای عقد قرارداد با هر تیمی شرط بگذارم که باید با برادرم هم قرارداد ببندند.فوتبال او از من بهتر است اما اینکه چه مسائلی
                              باعث شد تا نتواند پیشرفت کند، بماند. اگر او هم با استیل آذین قرارداد بست به خاطر این بود که خود آقای استیلی او را خواست و از او شناخت داشت


                              به گزارش فارس، فولاد روز گذشته در دیداری تدارکاتی به مصاف شاهین اهواز رفت که این بازی با نتیجه 2 بر 2 به پایان رسید. گل های فولاد را کاوه رضایی و سیامک سرلک به ثمر رساندند.

                              مجید جلالی در این بازی در نیمه اول بازیکنان ذخیره و در نیمه دوم تیم اصلی خود را به میدان فرستاد. در جریان این بازی مچ پای غلامرضا رضایی آسیب دید و امروز تمرین نمی کند.

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