A thread, for Branko to notice :

[Doctor DOOM]

got a few names and numbers to open a discussion:

1- foolad concedes 4 goals against abumoslem !
( I dont know the line up, but I'm guessing both kaabi and mirza played. )

mirza and kaabi, 2 players at TM for whom we never even BOTHERED to find alternatives for !!!


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2- Mani'ee :
IPL's top assists man.
left footer.
young & energetic.
speedy.
scores regularly too.
scores a hat trick on IPL's closing.

yet, is dropped from TM after a few minutes !!!
especially when we have a horrible left side, with NO solution in mind !

yeah, I know zandi is left footed, but where is he ?
he's nowhere to be found, near the left side !!!


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3- SS defense
Esteghlal wins the IPL, with a great record for its defense-men.
yet NO-ONE ... not a single player from its defense is called up for TM !!!

.... while out of form and bad defenders enjoy a zone of comfort at TM , no matter how crappy they play !!!


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4- zareh :
an out of form defender, whose best performances are on the WRONG side of the post he plays at TM : right side !!
and those performances are waaaaaayyy far back now!

he's so bad, that even branko's own brother sits him out of some games !!

yet, he enjoys an irrational trust and the ticket to each and every TM game, as a fixed player !!!
( oh, btw, his team just coceded 4 goals !! )

go figure !


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5- yahya:

yet another case of horrible form , yet starting fixed at TM !!!

and hey, they just conceded 4 goals !!!

bravo TM defenders !!


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6- enayati :
21 goals in one season.

contrast it against TM strikers:

daei, 11-12 ?
borhani, 8-9 ?
VH, 2-3 ?

lets add them all up. maybe then they'll surpass enayati's !

yet, enayati gets few chances and is never trusted with a 2-3 games string of opportunities to settle in the team and prove himself .... just like the chances nosrati, kaabi, alavi, mirza, zareh, borhani, ..... got !!


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7- Talebloo.

just as branko's first choice is losing form every day, and displaying horrible and at least fault-ridden shows, talebloo is going from strenght to strenght !

saved a penalty today with some good blocks in the goal.

yet we see ........ oh what the hell.
I'm tired of saying it again and again !!


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8- Mobaali :
there's no need to elaborate on his form in uae, and how he has managed to pull up a team at the bottom of uae league to be placed third, and as I am writting this, assisting one goal and scoring another against former asian club champions, al-ain !

while we have an out of form navidkia, injured again recently, preferred to him at TM !!!!

really, I must sit and figure out this NEW brand of logic !




I think for the time being , these 8 points are enough.

[Martin-Reza]

You need to learn to get your facts straight (and to stop your annoying agenda).

1 - Great, you base your judgement on guesses without having seen the match you're talking about. Foolad had to red cards btw, but I guess that's also Branko's fault

2 - Get your facts straight, Eidizadeh of Est-Ahv is top assister of IPl, then come Rajabzadeh and Maniei, plus Zandi's not glued to the sideline since we play a diamond midfield - as for explanation of that system see any football literature of your choice

3 - Great record, SS had the same amount of points (one less) last season and became third. Fortunately for SS there was no consistant team like Foolad last season around. Furthermore defense is a matter of the whole team and not just of the defenders - who never in their lives played in a fourback btw. Saipa just conceded 4 goals more, so maybe we should invite their whole defense as well...

4 - Zare didn't even play, so he's not on fault for conceding four goals, if that was the point you tried to make in that hate-message

5 - Yeah, Football is a one-man-sports, so blame it all on Yahya - without even having seen the match.

6 - I'd invite him as well, but I don't cry when Branko sees it differently.

7 - He saved a penalty? Wow, call Real Madrid, at least good to see you're getting tired of your own hate messages slowly

8 - Again you need to get your facts straight, Mobali didn't score

So all hate, wrong facts and old stuff.

[BehzadB]

MR jan,

you gotta admit, Golmohamadi has been poor to say the least. I think he is going to be a liability. I hope I am wrong.

[Paradigm]

Dr. Doom you just spoke my mind. These 8 cases are just unbelievable. I still think Mirza could be TM's #1, but he has had a bad streak lately. Today both Kameli and Montazeri (Foolad defenders) had been red carded. In fact I heard Mirza did not even play today. Regardless, glad to know Talebloo could compete for the position and is a reliable back up.

[faraz]

MR jan,
you gotta admit, Golmohamadi has been poor to say the least. I think he is going to be a liability. I hope I am wrong.

From the TM games that I've seen, Golmo has almost ALWAYS been solid. I'd still put him and Rezaei (who have been a duo for a long time now) together for the WC. I don't see any point in changing these 2 and putting an internationally inexperienced central defender to partner up with Rezaei (with whom he's never played).

[BehzadB]

From the TM games that I've seen, Golmo has almost ALWAYS been solid. I'd still put him and Rezaei (who have been a duo for a long time now) together for the WC. I don't see any point in changing these 2 and putting an internationally inexperienced central defender to partner up with Rezaei (with whom he's never played).

Nosrati can be a player the takes over Gol's spot.

[Hajagha]

From the TM games that I've seen, Golmo has almost ALWAYS been solid. I'd still put him and Rezaei (who have been a duo for a long time now) together for the WC. I don't see any point in changing these 2 and putting an internationally inexperienced central defender to partner up with Rezaei (with whom he's never played).

It's true, he has been solid in TM games but do we have any plan B if he is not? Who's going to be his sub?

Don't forget, we have 23 players to take with us. in defence we have seen Ka'abi, Golo, Rezaei, Zare, Nosrati and Kameli. Six players for 4 positions!!!, we should be more careful about our reserve team and the number of defensive players we take to WC. I would add atleast one or two players to this numbers and may change some names as well. Who's coming to my mind? Definietly, the ones shine in the league and not having a file in Branko's drawer.

[Martin-Reza]

MR jan,
you gotta admit, Golmohamadi has been poor to say the least. I think he is going to be a liability. I hope I am wrong.

As faraz said, Golmohammadi's really always been good in TM. The guy saves our ass in defense. He isn't the first player who has problems at the club but plays great in the national team. Teammates, atmosphere, systems, etc are different.

I also think we often tend to think too short-termed. It's mainly about quality, not about shape. Golmohammadi has qualities that make him unique in Iran, regardless if he has bad shape currently.

Haji mentioned an important issue. It's not about defenders as a whole, but about central defenders. We'll have three wingback options and with Mahdavikia and Teymourian (possibly also Amirabadi) further wingback options in the roster. But we have only four players who can play central defense, of which two (Nosrati, Alavi) could be needed on other positions as well (leftback, central defensive midfield). I think an additional central defender in the roster would be crucial.

[BehzadB]

I think an additional central defender in the roster would be crucial.

I don't disagree that Gol has been solid at TM for most part. I just don't think he is showing signs of a dependable Central defender. I certainly hope he is better than what he has shown in the last few weeks. He get's turned around too easily by younger players. he has lost his agility, and makes mistakes one would'nt expect of him.

I just hope we are not OVERLOOKING a weak link at the heart of our defense. other than that, I have been a fan of Gol and always thought he is a classy guy and a classy player.

[zzgloo]

It's true, he has been solid in TM games but do we have any plan B if he is not? Who's going to be his sub?
Don't forget, we have 23 players to take with us. in defence we have seen Ka'abi, Golo, Rezaei, Zare, Nosrati and Kameli. Six players for 4 positions!!!, we should be more careful about our reserve team and the number of defensive players we take to WC. I would add atleast one or two players to this numbers and may change some names as well. Who's coming to my mind? Definietly, the ones shine in the league and not having a file in Branko's drawer.

I also,like you and faraz believe he has been solid, and add,that he may be the most solid player we have....He is acting and playing more like a captain,than Daei.....I would rank the players, ( as far as Being the most valueable to the team.....

1-Mahdavikia.
2- Golmohamadi.
3-karimi.
4-hashemian.
,and the rest,go after these 4.

[Doctor DOOM]

Apparently, the incompetent fool didnt bother to come to either of the two major games of IPL yesterday !

not for saba- paas, where there were a lot of TM players involved, and many others shoned brightly ( mani'ee especially )..... nor for his own brother's team ( and his favorite defender, zareh. forget about the fact that zareh doesnt even get to start for his own club !!! ) !!!

this is the involvement of the TM coach in iranian football !!!
this is the proof of his interest in iranian talent and league !!


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1- golmo's last game with TM was when?
and was that "solid" ?
or shd we fix players based on how they were a year back ??!!!
or keep them on the bench, in favor of more in form players ?


factors like "consistency" is ignored, denied or conveniently omitted !!

2- foolad got 2 red cards.
and that makes the abysmal defensive woes for the whole season excusable !!
great logic.

mirza didnt play. fine.
but is that supposed to cover up his lack of form that has been evident to one and all ?
what kind of logic is that?


3- 12 ( or so ) assists is so different from 13 ( or so ).
typical diversion of topic, and evasion of the crux of the issue.
no wonder branko has such supporters !!

besides, even eidizadeh is not invited.
that makes branko's selection even more flawed and defective !


4- I guess mobaali's two assists are not to be counted ( since one was thought to have been a direct score !! ) and navidkia's ...ummm.... errrr.... whatever , while injured, is to be reason for the call up.

or shd we discount his consistent influential form the whole season, just becoz he didnt score in this game, and only assisted 2 goals ?!!!!!!

again, factors like "consistency" is ignored, denied or conveniently omitted !! which suits branko's flawed thinking !


5- shd we have short term goals or long term at this very moment?
2 months away from WC, and we're to be more bothered about 2008 games !!!?????
right ?

a sensible mind will think short term at this moment, and concentrate on the players' form RIGHT NOW, at present.
not what they had been a year ago, or what they would be a year from now !!

another sign of flawed thinking.


6- the matter of alternatives and subs is ( as reza jan brought up rightfully ) very important also.
something that a good coach would always keep in mind, especially with months left to the games.
something that branko was/is incapable of !


7- zareh's case defense was most ridiculous !!!

out of form, out of position, out of favor ( from his own coach, and TM coach's own brother ) .... and still ppl defend his case !!!


6- talebloo saving a penalty:
one thing to say : ignorance is bliss.
instead of aping branko in "trying" to ridicule a valid arguement, one shd have enough intelligence in recognizing the crux of the issue.

yes, it is just another great show among MANY others.
which is more to say for branko's first choice.

no-one denies mirza's talent, but to deny TM of competition for spots and kill any motivation and bring in complacency ( which mirza, yahya, kaabi, zareh, .............. are suffering from ), branko does ( onec again ) the wrong thing !






it just offends one's intelligence to keep quiet in the face of such irrational and illogical attitude.
well, apparently some ppl either dont mind their intelligence offended, or lack any intelligence for it to get offended !


I wonder , are we working towards a record breaking failure at the WC?
something to top el salvador's 11-1 ( or some such score ) loss, maybe?
or are we trying to keep up with ksa's 8-0 loss ?