Daei's Dispute with IFF (Navad Show)

[Ali Chicago]

Found this regarding his jerseys in his latest interview.

وي در ادامه گفت: ديدم كه يك خبرنگار در يادداشتي نوشته است كه چرا در برنامه نود راجع به لباس*هايي كه به تيم ملي داده*ام و طلبي كه از فدراسيون بابت اين مسئله دارم سوالي پرسيده نشده است. بايد بگويم وقتي سرمربي تيم ملي شدم فيرات با من بود. به فدراسيون فوتبال پيشنهاد داديم كه آديداس يا پوما را به عنوان اسپانسر تيم ملي انتخاب كنند. به مسوولان فدراسيون فوتبال گفتيم كه اگر شما نامه*اي را به رايموند كالموند بنويسيد مي*تواند با ارتباطاتي كه دارد آديداس يا پوما را براي اسپانسري تيم ملي به تهران بياوريم، اما متاسفانه آقايان سه ماه امروز و فردا كردند و كميته بازاريابي فدراسيون فوتبال اصلا نامه*اي ننوشت. متاسفانه كسي نبود كه پاسخگوي ما باشد. كالموند هم نمي*توانست خودش همينجوري برود با آديداس و پوما صحبت كند. اين باعث شد كه مسوولان فدراسيون فوتبال به من نامه بزنند و بگويند كه لباس*هايي را براي تيم ملي تهيه كنم. اين نامه*ها هم اكنون وجود دارد ضمن اينكه من اسپانسر تيم ملي نبودم كه بخواهم براي دادن لباسها به فدراسيون پول بدهم.

Thanks for sharing the info. I don't doubt MR. Daie's comment and am sure that IFF marketing department is unqualified and unprofessional. Having said that, Mr. Daie played in Europe and knows that no TM (even Tim Bak Too's national team, these days don't pay for their uniforms. Even in this interview he doesn't talk about what was the compensation (if any).

It is no secret I am not a Mr. Daie's fan, but I always repsect him for the unselfish w work he did during the WC 1998 and 2002 Qualifications. He travelled millions of miles probably, risked his spot on the roster in his team, played with a broken/injured rib injury. I wish Daie of the recent years behaved more like Daie in that (1998-2002) era. During that era he was a true patriot that put Iran's national team and country above his own gains. I am afriad I can't say the same about Mr. Daie after 2005.

I know maybe I am asking too much from Mr. Daie. But I guess he himself raised the bar (my expectations) by what his examplery behavior during the 1998-2002.

[Ali Chicago]

Very thoughtful post thank you. Although I think compared to when he initially took over the TM he is much improved. He was much worst when he initially took over the TM and at that time, he wasn't fired from the TM head coaching.

To be honest I think Mr. Daie is a victim of the lack of professionalisem in our football. Mr. Daie is a fierce competitor, that is what made him what he is. He should come through the ranks. Made his mistakes there and maybe 5-7 years from now he would have been a great coach for the TM. But he was put on the spot and I think he wasn't prepared at all for the emotional pressure.

[Ali Chicago]

As the discussion around Daei's Contract with IFF initiated on Navad, I was somewhat exciting to hear what he had to say and what the outcome of this argument encounter will be at the end of his TV appearance, however in all honesty I was disappointed by how this matter was handled by both parties, particularly Daei. First off going into details of such contracts on a very popular international TV show was purely inappropriate and unprofessional. at some point during the argument I got a felling as if this was the courtroom and I was watching live broadcast Judge Judy on an IRIB TV!
What also bothered me was the way Daei handled the argument, although some slim signs of improvement may be observed in his tone and overall demeanor, but still I saw the old aggressive and misbehaved Daei with little tolerance towards criticism and disliked questions/statements... At one point it seemed as if he was sitting kenaare sofreye abgooshto piaaz and arguing with his mom and dad or sister and brothers over his cut allowance, very immature and unprofessional behavior from a man who is a graduate from a very highly ranked Iranian university!
As for the IFF and their reps I am speechless...

Keano Jaan;

I guess we Iranians are very impatient and blow fuses easily (yours truly included as well). In case of Mr. Daie I guess he was born fuseless to begin with. Hope he improves in the future.

[Keano]

Why is that? Is it an after effect of the wide criticism after he was appointed as Team Melli coach? Is it due to the one loss against Saudi Arabia that resulted in his sacking? Is it the feeling of being victimized , targeted and unfairly held responsible ? Is it his natural intolerance to negative issues? is it an inherent phobia of public humiliation

Actually he has been under immense pressure and unfairly overdone criticism by both media and public ever since 2002 WCQ. It is quite a difficult and frustrating task to put up with so much negativity and ruthless treatment, be it by Media or football fans, not to mention his own teammates plotting and rising against him in a prestigious tournament (WC 2006).

Yes we are by nature a very hot tempered nation, strangers to tolerance and unfamiliar with patience. For us the Iranians, there's no such thing as middle ground, the hardest thing for us to do is to agree to disagree, yes we got plenty of Ali Daeis all over the country and even here in PFDC, don't believe it? go to General forum and Football forum and read some of the sensitive threads and topics, you'll see Daei's peers left and right!

The culture is culturally messed up! How to fix it? hmmmm...

[Ali Chicago]

Actually he has been under immense and pressure and unfairly overdone criticism by both media and public ever since 2002 WCQ. It is quite a difficult and frustrating task to put up with so much negativity and ruthless behavior be it by the Media or football fans, not to mention his own teammates plotting and rising against him in a prestigious tournament (WC 2006).
Yes we are by nature a very hot tempered nation, strangers to tolerance and unfamiliar with patience. For us the Iranians, there's no such thing as middle ground, the hardest thing for us to do is to agree to disagree, yes we got plenty of Ali Daeis all over the country and even here in PFDC, don't believe it? go to General forum and Football forum and read some of the sensitive threads and topics, you'll see Daei's peers left and right!
The culture is culturally messed up! How to fix it? hmmmm...

I have a solution for you, I bet it works for the guys at least. Let them get busy with that GQ gal that u have in your banner!!!!

[Keano]

Oh you mean my GF Mila?

[maij]

Actually he has been under immense pressure and unfairly overdone criticism by both media and public ever since 2002 WCQ. It is quite a difficult and frustrating task to put up with so much negativity and ruthless treatment, be it by Media or football fans, not to mention his own teammates plotting and rising against him in a prestigious tournament (WC 2006).

Yes we are by nature a very hot tempered nation, strangers to tolerance and unfamiliar with patience. For us the Iranians, there's no such thing as middle ground, the hardest thing for us to do is to agree to disagree, yes we got plenty of Ali Daeis all over the country and even here in PFDC, don't believe it? go to General forum and Football forum and read some of the sensitive threads and topics, you'll see Daei's peers left and right!

The culture is culturally messed up! How to fix it? hmmmm...

Beautifully put...

As for the solution to this semi screwed up culture , I suggest education , knowledge and awareness , nothing but that. Normally it take long time and changes can be only felt by a following generation or cycle of years.

In Iran , the changes might take longer simple because the Iranians are highly opinionated and regardless of the level of education or qualification everyone seems to be an self proclaimed expert there. From the the sewage worker all the way to CEO , they will comfortably talk to you about diverse subjects from Nuclear Energy to Football to Air pollution ..... and they talk as experts .

One of the ailment of football in Iran in my opinion is exactly that, the wrong culture. Iran always has 70 million Team Melli coaches and thus Daei was in the in a no win situation to start with.

Something else that I like to add is that we do not seem to be content and always want more , frequently "We demand more than we actually deserve", This is very true in our football.

[maij]

Oh you mean my GF Mila?

She could do with a bit of nutrition

[Ali Chicago]

She could do with a bit of nutrition

Two notes:

Agha Majid likes them topol mopol (haji Bazari Pasand)!!!!

I agree with your observations about our cultural issues, but pressure on Daie started when he kept playing in the TM in order to get that title of the most goal scorer in the world. Granted it was the gutless coach (Branko) that kept invited him and played him even against Guam (as a result a generation of Iranian forwards went to waste and didn't' get experience). Still I think Daie's decision in the past are partly to blame as well. Daie's poor public relation demeanor toward the end of his career days (remember fiasco between him and Shays Rezi in PP Saipa game). This continued further. He is so polarizing, always has this US against them, conspiracy against him mentality. Please do a search in You Tube and see the clip when IR TV reporter tries to ask him a question before the Kuwait game and listen to Daie. This was at least a year before loss to Saudis.

You can't find a single national football player in the history of Iranian national team to be as polarizing (to put it mildly) as him. He is the most known Iranian player, yet he isn't the most popular player (despite his achievements).

[maij]

Kafashin admits IFF error on Daei's contract.

Not that this is of a great surprise , but Kafashian has admitted that they made a few errors on Daei's contract. he also admits that he was inexperience when dealing with this issue.

كفاشيان: با هيچ حقوقداني مشورت نداشتيم
متن قرارداد سرمربي را از روي قراردادي قديمي كپي كرديم!

[Ali Chicago]

Not that this is of a great surprise , but Kafashian has admitted that they made a few errors on Daei's contract. he also admits that he was inexperience when dealing with this issue.

كفاشيان: با هيچ حقوقداني مشورت نداشتيم
متن قرارداد سرمربي را از روي قراردادي قديمي كپي كرديم!

Thanks for sharing, as you said this ain't a surprise. In that shir to shir land, nothing will surprise me anymore. It is so sad to see our clubs and federation aren't professional enough to arrange for a contract in a way to not loose a dispute in the future. Remember how our clubs keep paying fines to the FIFA due to contractual violations.

[TM-Fan]

This is one of the main problems that we have had during the last 30 years and have been harmed a lot by it.

A manager for an organization is appointed from outside of that organization with absolutely no clue and experience from the job. It takes him a year or two to understand and learn and gain experience. During the learning period, he makes so many mistakes and harmful decisions. As soon as he learns a few things from his own fuccked ups, his own manager is changed and so he also loses his job to the friend of the new higher manager. And it happens again and again and again...

[Keano]

In other words Kafashian admits that they screwed up on this and many others cases in the past. Without a doubt before this matter is taken to FIFA by Daei, IFF will settle it down by paying him the amount.

The question is will they ever learn how to get things done in a professional manner?

[maij]

This is one of the main problems that we have had during the last 30 years and have been harmed a lot by it.

A manager for an organization is appointed from outside of that organization with absolutely no clue and experience from the job. It takes him a year or two to understand and learn and gain experience. During the learning period, he makes so many mistakes and harmful decisions. As soon as he learns a few things from his own fuccked ups, his own manager is changed and so he also loses his job to the friend of the new higher manager. And it happens again and again and again...

Unfortunately , this is a fact in Iran, poor management is the Achilles heel of the society and this poor management is not exclusive to football either as it touches many walks of life.

In a system where you need to be politically cum religiously acceptable to the authority in order to occupy an important seat in an organization or public office, professionalism is hardly a criteria.

This Kafashin , and I do bless him for accepting the blame and being man enough to admit his shortcoming, is a classic example. The guy was appointed as IFF head with very little managerial background in football and not much pedigree. It does not need absolute intelligence to be a head of a football federation but like many managerial position , proper experience , knowledge , excellence in dealing with people is required to succeed in the job....Kafashian , simply does not have the ingredient.

[zzgloo]

Still , we do not know, if Daei ,also made a mistake or not ???

having Kafashian admiting ,he should have had a new contract,does not mean, the contract signed is not valid.......

I still like to know what happends to the section regarding ali Daei....

If the contract says,:
" the first year is gaurantied,but the following year is not !! ", .........
What other sentences,within the same contract,nullified the previouse sentense ?

In another words, where exactly the contract was ,wrong,and benefited Daei ??