There are rumors in Tehran that Sven Guran Erikson is coming to Tehran (next two weeks) to negotiate for the head coaching job of the TM? What do you guys think ? I appreciate if everybody provide a list of their perceived pros and cons.
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"When I see the good in you, you get motivated, feel good about yourself and that creates synergy. It creates an environment where everybody can work better together. I think in the Iranian culture it becomes very ordinary to always see the bad in each other."
Afshin Ghotbi ( Former TM Head Coach)
Nasser Hejazi was the Takhti of our football.
Mohammad Panjali (Former PP and TM Captain)
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From the magnitude of rummers and level of prospects....even if they are not true......It appears, IFF, wants to do a " BANG !!", with a future coach.......Originally posted by Ali Chicago View Post
years of procrastenations, goofy managerial negotiations, and failier after failier......it seems, they want to put a rest to thier misrable past !!, or atleast attempt to do so !!
So, be it Maradona, or Erikson.......they want a Big name.......and It does not appear that a " Normal " name would do the job they are intending to do....
How successful they may be, with infemy of Iranian system..is to be seen !!
But, I must admit, they do deserve a credit for thier audacity.
Working in countries like IRAN, requires a different coaching mentality......and I personaly do not see that either in Maradona,nor in Erikson.
nevertheless...such coaches , normaly lack big names,that IFF is looking for....the only one, that has the potential that satisfies IFF goal,and appropreate credetials for such tasks..would be GUSS HIDDINK.
So, my shorter answer would be, he is not a right person for TM job.
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a major step up from what we've been getting since blazevic.
I dont care what ppl say about him failing in mexico or after that ivory coast, coz there are a lot of factors that are unrelated to Iran and Iranian football. Given our standards and level, he is definitely a major step up.
if he was good enough to coach england for 5 years, he damn sure is good enough to coach iran
however, having said all that, I really doubt IFF is capable of pulling off such a huge deal.
chances of bonacic or denizli or terim or coaches like these guys is far more (more believable) than erikssonComment
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would be great but sven would take one steps and is very politicaly "smart".
i doubt he makes this move.Humanity. Love. Earth.Comment
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He is a disgusting charlatan. I absolutely hate the man.
Dare I say he's no better than Ghotbi or any other of the mercenary type coaches we have working in the Mideast.
He was lucky to have some very talented squads, but all he is into is call girls, easy money and pretending that he's a very calm man. He could never last in Iran anyways. He does terrible in places where man-to-man management is important.
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Originally posted by dvader6 View Post
From what I gather, his team in English first division isn't doing well and he seems to be wanting to do a nationla team. Coaching a national team is different from a club team after all. He is supposed to fly to Iran within next two weeks, so we can wait and see if comes true."When I see the good in you, you get motivated, feel good about yourself and that creates synergy. It creates an environment where everybody can work better together. I think in the Iranian culture it becomes very ordinary to always see the bad in each other."
Afshin Ghotbi ( Former TM Head Coach)
Nasser Hejazi was the Takhti of our football.
Mohammad Panjali (Former PP and TM Captain)
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It is not too surprising that IFF is desperate to sign a well known foreign coach after being bombarded with unprecedented criticism from all angles due to their on going failures. Football's poor showing , particularly since the other sports excelled in Asian games , has put the federation and STB in an awkward situation while people are demanding answers for why this sport , which gets the lion share of funds , is failing to satisfy the fans.
Obviously , they see the foreign coach as a quick and dirty means of plugging the gap and it is another method to say that the authorities are doing their best.
Erickson is NOT exactly a great coach and his track record is very ordinary at best and abysmal at worst. He will never get any decent European Club and his only chance to get employed is Asian or African countries who are desperate to silence the critical fans, like Iran.
Frankly , I would prefer to keep Ghotbi , who by the way signed a contract to coach a Japanese club, in preference over Erickson. While Ghotbi is not the perfect coach for Team Melli , at least he speaks the language , communicates relatively well and understands the culture. These are very important Human factors that Erickson lacks and will be a significant hurdle in his job. Tactically , he might be better than Ghotbi but what is the point if he cannot pass this properly to his players.
Thumbs down for Erickson, but then again I have hardly been a staunch supporter of foreign coaches in Iran. These coaches need certain standards to succeed and definitely they require ample time. In Iran , which is not really available in Iran.
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Originally posted by maij View Post
Well come back agha Majid. Truly missed your input in F+. After the pleasantry I share your feelings toward Erickson. His record in Mexico with Ivory Coast (which are somewhat similar situations) showed he isn't the white magician (like Troussier or Guus) that we need.
P.S. You mentioned Ghotbi has a contract with a Japanese club? Would he be the head coach? Is it Shimizu? In Iranian papers they mention it a lot, but having a solid source like you is quite different."When I see the good in you, you get motivated, feel good about yourself and that creates synergy. It creates an environment where everybody can work better together. I think in the Iranian culture it becomes very ordinary to always see the bad in each other."
Afshin Ghotbi ( Former TM Head Coach)
Nasser Hejazi was the Takhti of our football.
Mohammad Panjali (Former PP and TM Captain)
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A: Eriksson is not remotely interested to work in Iran and has a CONTRACT with Leicester.
B: Ghotbi"contract" is only be confirmed by him. Nowhere is it to be found in the Japanese media so far. Considering his trackrecord of "contracts" ( Chelsea, Qatar League, UAE League, Russia NT team) this could also be bazar garmi.
C: A coach nots peaking the local language and not knowing the local culture is not even close to an excuse for not bringing in a foreign coach. If that was valid, it would mean that Iran should NEVER bring in foreign experts\coaches and it also means that neither should any other country (such as Japan, Korea etc). Would We really turn down a good professional coach with a good cv because he does not speak farsi?Comment
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Originally posted by xoraster View Post
hmmm.... although not exactly conclusive, but wouldnt be impossible either. given the track record of ghotbi, master of spin, ... well, who knows
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typical! somehow our officials are never found to be guilty. only the minions and coaches and players. but never an official is pulled up for failures!Originally posted by maij View PostComment
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He is not doing well in Leicester though, so hence the rumor. About your other points, I don't want to start another Ghotbi this or that.Originally posted by xoraster View Post"When I see the good in you, you get motivated, feel good about yourself and that creates synergy. It creates an environment where everybody can work better together. I think in the Iranian culture it becomes very ordinary to always see the bad in each other."
Afshin Ghotbi ( Former TM Head Coach)
Nasser Hejazi was the Takhti of our football.
Mohammad Panjali (Former PP and TM Captain)
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Mokhlis Ali Agha.Originally posted by Ali Chicago View Post
The news about Ghotbi was by word of mouth and the source was himself. Of course I got it third hand or fourth. How reliable is the news ? of course it is very difficult to tell. I have not been following the newspapers clisely and I don't even know if this news made the media.
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He is too good for Iran. I dare to say that Sven is one of the most misunderstood individuals in the world of football, mostly due to how the media (mainly in the UK) have portrayed him over the years. It is in fact a very humble man who is extremely down to earth - despite all the money he has earned, rightfully or not.
He has a fantastic track record and has been professional from day one at every job that he has had. People criticize him for his job with the England squad, but truth be told, nobody has exceeded Sven's results ever since he quit the job after the WC finals back in 2006.
Mind you, the England job is de facto a position that very rarely "develops" and "improves" managers. Can you come up with any big names that actually improved or went on to larger missions after having led the English national team? The answer is no. The England manager job is a job that should be taken as a managers' last mission in his career - because it doesn't matter how high or low the manager is regarded before the appointment - he will always end up with a worse reputation after having done the job than before commencing it!
Sven is a very experienced manager, and it is also a manager with a lot of respect for the players. He communicates with them and he asks them how they want to play. He allows them to become a part of the work instead of just delegating and proclaiming orders left and right. His management is very democratic, and it is perhaps not the easiest thing to incorporate such management in environments where democratic leadership is a lacking factor in various levels of society - be it from the homes of people to national institutions - regardless of which countries in the world.
Furthermore, Sven is a manager that is constantly praised by his current and former players. Nobody has anything negative to say about him, his personality or his coaching methods. He is by far one of the most skilled and sensitive managers - both tactically but also culturally. He knows exactly how to handle players from certain areas in the world, and this is something that has inspired a lot of young managers in Sweden lately. For instance, you cannot criticize an Argentian striker (for instance Hernan Crespo) in front of the whole group as you would be able to do in constructive way with a British midfielder (for instance David Beckham). Sven is very skilled at handling this big egos and making them work in one direction in order to reach the goals and objectives of the group.
A classical example is for instance when Sven was appointed at Lazio. The night before he was to introduce himself to the squad, the staff around the team and the service personnel at the club, he learned all their names by heart. The next day when he showed up at Lazio's training ground, he shook hands with everybody, saying "hello" plus the name of person he was greeting. They were very impressed by this and appreciated it a lot. He has done it in other clubs as well and it has always been a positive thing.
During the World Cup finals in the US in 1994, Sven was working as a commentator assistant for state TV in Sweden, and he traveled in the US together with the rest of the crew of network that had the broadcasting rights of the WC that summer. Every night, he took them out for dinner and he always paid for them, claiming that it was the only right thing to do.
The Mexico assignment was a joke, and so was the Man City project when Thaksin Shinawatra assigned Sven for a year. He still did good that season, bringing in some interesting players (that were successful) and he managed to lead the team to two victories over Manchester United. However, both projects were campaigns with political agendas. Shinawatra had no clue about how football works - and he ruined more than he built up during his time as the owner of Man City. He made Jesus Gil look like an angel.
With this being said, Sven is not the right guy for Iran in my opinion. Sven is too kind and too honest to make in an environment like Iran. He would most likely create a good vibe in team and be able to learn the players (and maybe even some of the coaches in Iran) a lot of things, but football is more than that. A clear parallel is the Mexico assignment he had a couple of years ago where he wasn't able to get his work done properly due to the external (and sometimes not related to football) factors that his environment caused.
People hate Sven and that's fine, I don't care. But the same people who hate him have misunderstood the whole thing about him.Last edited by Haf3z; 12-18-2010, 03:04 PM.We thank and support Mr.Kamran Delan for many years of dedication and service to Iranian Football Community.
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