The new 27 men list of TM for asia cup and issues concerning it

[maij]

* حسين کعبي که در دقيقه 75 وارد ميدان شده بود، زياد دوام نياورد و با يک تکل خطرناک در دقيقه 85 با کارت قرمز مستقيم داور روبرو و از زمين بازي اخراج شد.

this kid still hasnt been able to control himself and his temper, even after this many years of top flight football!
maybe this is why qotbi doesnt call him.

Some people do not have the mental capacity to learn , or to be precise , learn from their mistakes. Kaebi is in this category. Frankly , I have stopped respecting him for a long time. If his standard on the pitch and his behavior is anything to go by , he is no loss at all to team melli. I guess Ghotbi has enough knowledge of this guy.

* قاسم حدادي فر وقتي قصد خروج از زمين به دليل تعويض را داشت، منصور ابراهيم زاده سرمربي ذوب آهن دست خود را براي خسته نباشيد به سمت اين بازيکن دراز کرد ولي حدادي فر دست او را پس زد و حتي روي نيمکت هم ننشست و به سمت رختکن رفت.

I'm waiting to see any reaction from qotbi on hadadifar's rude act after his substituion in zob-ahan's game. will that act damn the zobahan player?
this was very unexpected as I thought this guy is a down to earth and humble guy. doing this to your coach is bad enough. but to do it to someone like ebrahimzadeh, who is a very decent and cultured coach is beyond rude.

Now ..this one is a shocker !!!!!!

I do not know much of Hadadifar personalty except for his good performance on the pitch with Zob Ahan , but what he did to his coach , and a Gentleman is nothing short of disgraceful act. No excuses at all , this was a cheap shot from an uncivilized person...period.

I really and sincelry hope that Ghotbi noted that. Team Melli does not need this sort of people.....Damn , how would he behave after a dozen matches for Team Melli , I wonder?

Throw him out of TM camp ...let us have some dignity and class for God sake.

[Martin-Reza]

^ Well, Kaebi got sent off for a tackling and Hadadifar was angry and didn't shake Ebrahimzadeh's hand and refused to sit on the bench. That's not good, but everyday business in football and should be punished by the clubs with financial sanctions, but is no reason to exaggerate this. This happens and as long as a player doesn't repeatedly do that, it's no big deal.

He is LB. For RB Ghotbi had Montazeri in mind.

Well, that leaves us with one real RB, Heydari, and two central defenders who can play RB as well, Nosrati and Montazeri (three if you include Hosseini), as RB options. That's enough to compensate injuries and suspensions, but having only one player who can offensively contribute much as RB, is not ideal imo.

Zeniedpour just said that he would never ever forgive Ghotbi for not inviting him........

That's just childish. He is playing for a team in the relegation zone and neither in IPL nor in TM proved to be an irreplaceable player. I like him as a player, but I have full understanding for excluding him and there is no reason to make a personal issue out of this decision.

[zzgloo]

Arash Afshin or Reza Noroozi ?
The Foolad Team mates.....
which is better ?...which has a better chance to help TM ?

[Martin-Reza]

I'm very excited about Arash Afshing, but of course young talents always stimulate one's imagination.

He's a rightfooter feeling comfortable on the left wing, seems to be fast, technically good and also a regular goalscorer. Beng 1.85 meters tall, he also brings the necessary physique.

[St_Mark]

Arash Afshin or Reza Noroozi ?
The Foolad Team mates.....
which is better ?...which has a better chance to help TM ?

Afshin.

IMO Bakhtiar should have been invited , He is resonsible for sucess of Norouzi and Afshin.


He was expecting to be invited this time but he is not 20 yet and will have his chance.

بختيار رحماني كه فكر مي كرد يكي از دعوت شدگان خواهد بود در همين بازي با سپاهان بارها دو مدافع ملي پوش تيم ملي را آزار داد. او براي اين بازي هيچ انگيزه اي نداشت و نمي خواست حتي بازي كند. ما كلي با او صحبت كرديم تا توانستيم براي مسابقه او را آماده كنيم

رضاييان

[The-Red]

Is it just me or Zob Ahan could have more players deserving of a spot in the team!

And Oladi's drop is pretty stupid it you ask me, but then again, the coach is thinking something we probably don't know what it is based on, I hope!

[Ali Chicago]

^
just to make things clear:
Owladi has scored 6-7 goals in IPL as well as a couple in recent TM games.
hadi noroozi has scored 2 in IPL


you also might wanna check out hajsafi's Omid and TM games in 2010

Well, Hadi Nooroozi was injured, secondly Ooladi and Nooroozi role as far as Ghotbi are concerned can be very different. Nooroozi type of play and Ooladi are very different and Ghotbi might ( I said might since I dont' talk to Ghobti on a dialy bases!! ) use Nooroozi very differently than ooladi. For example , Ooladi is a type of a forward to play upfront get the call, carry the ball, hold the ball until help arrives. Nooroozi isn't any of this, he is from what I recall a sniffer in the box, somewhat faster. He is a PP player and I don't follow him that closely. But jist of it is that Ooladi and Nooroozi comparison are apples adn oranges. Ooladi to me needs to be compared with Gholami. Hope I can get my point across.

[Hadi]

Only Oladi and Madanchi are missing.

Oladi maybe not so much since we have too many strikers already.

Madanchi on the other hand...

[Hadi]

-------------------Rahmati------------------
-------Hosseini-----Talebi-----Nosrati------
------Teymorian----Nekonam----P.Nouri-------
GR.Rezaie---------Khalatbari----------Shojaie
-------------------Gholami-------------------

period.

[Hadi]

tactics:

press and run like hell, Tight midfield, look for runs of Rezaie and Shojaie on flanks, Khalatbari as main playmaker, 3 defensive midfielders play close to back line, avoid passing too much in own half and feed direct balls to the forward 4.

[Martin-Reza]

Isn't Madanchi injured? I think he didn't play for Steel Azin for a long time...

Oladi is an interesting player, but majority of his goals this season were penalties and as Hadi said, we already have many strikers.

About ZZ deserving more players in TM, I don't think so. Maybe M. Hosseini could have been added, but with 5 players they already have the biggest share of TM players, which is enough.

Btw, average age of this squad is 26.5. Not really youngm rather average I'd say.

[dvader6]

Well, Hadi Nooroozi was injured, secondly Ooladi and Nooroozi role as far as Ghotbi are concerned can be very different. Nooroozi type of play and Ooladi are very different and Ghotbi might ( I said might since I dont' talk to Ghobti on a dialy bases!! ) use Nooroozi very differently than ooladi. For example , Ooladi is a type of a forward to play upfront get the call, carry the ball, hold the ball until help arrives. Nooroozi isn't any of this, he is from what I recall a sniffer in the box, somewhat faster. He is a PP player and I don't follow him that closely. But jist of it is that Ooladi and Nooroozi comparison are apples adn oranges. Ooladi to me needs to be compared with Gholami. Hope I can get my point across.

but here comparison is not necessary. what is necessary is which style is more needed for the team. the quick n skillful center forward or the quick footed "sniffer" (as you put it).

with khalatbari, afshin, rezaei, we have all the things hadi nowroozi can do and then some. but the skillful and quick center forwards are not so easily found. only reza nowroozi and maybe afshin. (I am not sure how quick gholami is . so I didnt include him. but he is many times better than hadi nowrooi anyway)

so instead of comparing apples and oranges, we shd see which fruit is more needed in our basket and of which kind we have more

[Doctor DOOM]

^^ any rule that says no team shall have more than 5 players?
I dont think so. I still say both mahini and Md. Hosseini could and shd have been called (instead of hajsafi and another chap)

besides, in major tournaments age doesnt matter.
age becomes an important factor when we are BUILDING towards a major tournament. DURING the tournament, the players' FORM is far more important than his age.

[Ali Chicago]

but here comparison is not necessary. what is necessary is which style is more needed for the team. the quick n skillful center forward or the quick footed "sniffer" (as you put it).

with khalatbari, afshin, rezaei, we have all the things hadi nowroozi can do and then some. but the skillful and quick center forwards are not so easily found. only reza nowroozi and maybe afshin. (I am not sure how quick gholami is . so I didnt include him. but he is many times better than hadi nowrooi anyway)

so instead of comparing apples and oranges, we shd see which fruit is more needed in our basket and of which kind we have more

Well, It suffies to say that Ghotbi has a different thinking from you obviously. I see no relevance in the comparing Khatbari, Afshin, G Rezai to Hadi Nooroozi (Hadi is the PP Nooroozi one right?). Three players that you named play closer to Ooladi style IMHO. On a seperate note, I dont' think Afshin will get any playing time.

Plus Ghotbi was in PP for 1.5 season, so he is much more familiar with certain players, so in a way he is probably biased toward players that he has been for a long time. Pezhman Noori is another example of his favorite player. It seems Ghotbi loves a player who plays simple, without extra touches, works within the team system (so called tactic pazir). Ashobi in PP under him is a great example that comes to mind.

Bottom line, it comes to Ghotbi's preference and since it is his neck is the one who will be on the line, I think we should defer right now and let him to follow his plan. If he is successful, well he was right, if he wasn't then we let the Barbeque!!!!!!! and Grilling of Ghotbi to start. I am sure Neda won't let an opportunity like that to be WASTED!!!!!

[Hadi]

i think it doesnt really matter who is invited and who is not.

to win the Asian cup, we need team hunger and motivation, a brave coach who knows what he is doing, and a result oriented squad which plays solid physical football...

one or two players in or out doesnt make much difference.