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    #16
    Thanks for your comments. I am still not clear would you share my concern or think despite the potential dangers still the privatization without the legal, managerial framework is the way to go?
    Originally posted by zzgloo View Post
    There is a very good chance, if we ever give in to the privetization,( perhaps in future democratic governement ).......there will be a long period of failier !!
    While it is true the huge fan base we have is something positive,....but what we are going to do with :
    1- Lack of culture in management.
    2-People's Over expectation from Governement.
    3-Lack of work ethics in our culture.
    4-Non-cunsuming culture.
    5-Lack of infuerstucture.
    6-Non proffesional work force.
    7-Lack of Laws protecting private ownership.
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    Privetization in Football has direct relation to " Free market economy ";
    After the dismantling the socialist system in the east block..There were a Rush by Eastern block countries toward " Free market "......and there were different schools of thoughts......
    A= Mixture of Governement & private & forign investement ...( Yuguslayia )
    B= Nationalism,and home grown Private sector ..( Russia )
    C= Total Exclusive Forign Investement ,...( east Germany).
    D= " Shock theropy ",sudden all out openness to free market & forign investement...( Poland )
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    The " Shock theropy " of Poland ,was the fastest and the most painful .
    .............
    I personaly believe,our future will be similar to " Russia's " approach.
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    While, Steel Azin " TRY ", was a naive, inapproprate investement and a major failier....yet, it was and is a good learning experince, and a little step forward,that we had to have .
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    "When I see the good in you, you get motivated, feel good about yourself and that creates synergy. It creates an environment where everybody can work better together. I think in the Iranian culture it becomes very ordinary to always see the bad in each other."
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    Nasser Hejazi was the Takhti of our football.
    Mohammad Panjali (Former PP and TM Captain)
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      #17
      Talking about privatization.

      Anyone here thinks that any of the league clubs actually makes money or break even ?

      Of course , with the lack of balance sheet and proper accounting , it is impossible to confirm that , but my wild guess that every single team in the Pro league is losing money.



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        #18
        ^ Well, I'm not so sure. The different club owners (state, steel & oil companies, car manufacturers or people like Hedayati) pump loads of money into the clubs which makes them liquid. With that money they buy many players from not so fortunate clubs who hereby are also consolidated.

        Of course that has little to do with proper business, but I think this way the clubs are mostly financially in a good situation.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Ali Chicago View Post
          Thanks for your comments. I am still not clear would you share my concern or think despite the potential dangers still the privatization without the legal, managerial framework is the way to go?
          Ali jaan....God Bless you........I defenetly agree with you and added......
          I coded from your post that ;
          ((((Originally Posted by Ali Chicago
          Kharabi choonh ke az haad bogzaard Aabad meegardad.
          My only point was privatization without proper framework can lead to disaster.)))))
          And I stated;
          ((( There is a very good chance, if we ever give in to the privetization,( perhaps in future democratic governement ).......there will be a long period of failier !!)))))...which is in line with your points....
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          I how ever, Concluded and added that the transfer could be less painful..if we take lessons from Some east European Models...I hope you read and noticed that part.

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          Last edited by zzgloo; 04-20-2011, 02:48 PM.

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            #20
            Ghorbanat Bahram Jaan, thanks for the clarification.
            Originally posted by zzgloo View Post
            Ali jaan....God Bless you........I defenetly agree with you and added......
            I coded from your post that ;
            ((((Originally Posted by Ali Chicago
            Kharabi choonh ke az haad bogzaard Aabad meegardad.
            My only point was privatization without proper framework can lead to disaster.)))))
            And I stated;
            ((( There is a very good chance, if we ever give in to the privetization,( perhaps in future democratic governement ).......there will be a long period of failier !!)))))...which is in line with your points....
            .
            I how ever, Concluded and added that the transfer could be less painful..if we take lessons from Some east European Models...I hope you read and noticed that part.
            .
            "When I see the good in you, you get motivated, feel good about yourself and that creates synergy. It creates an environment where everybody can work better together. I think in the Iranian culture it becomes very ordinary to always see the bad in each other."
            Afshin Ghotbi ( Former TM Head Coach)



            Nasser Hejazi was the Takhti of our football.
            Mohammad Panjali (Former PP and TM Captain)
            sigpic

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