Queiroz selects the roster for the Maldives game

[St_Mark]

lets give quieroz and pouladi a chance hejaz jan.
if nosrati, sattar zare and ehsan hajisafi were all tried as LBs under different coaches, why not pouladi?
he surely is left footed, has a strong physique and is relatively young and has time to adapt to a different position.
he has played DM before or atleast CM before and many times, DMs and/or CMs are used as fullbacks.
in iran, hossein kazemi used to play as a fullback in saipa. even kaebi was not a fullback.
we have also worldknow players like ze roberto who have played LB and DM/CMs. ofcourse,a braziliam international's caliber is much higher than pouladi's but then again, we are so short and poor in fullbacks in iran, that i think its good to give others a chance.
if pouladi works out to be as good as hajisafi, then that is a success in my opinion cos now we have more than 2 realistic options we can consider for long run and wat better opportunity than start against easier teams like maldvies and friend matches?

Dear:
Would that apply to Abdulghasem too?
Nosrati, Satar , Ehsan all were all first tried for LB position at young age while they were playing for U23 ( Nosrati, Satar) or u19 (Hajsafi) but Dehnavi is almost 30 years old. Where would he play?
If at RB why not Hosseini from Zobahan, & if CD why not Talebi ?
I will response to your Pouladi option at later time when/if he actually play for new position.

[Doctor DOOM]

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& off course it includes Mighty AK8 who is master @ all those Skills & aspects of the game..!
sadly He is Still The Best overall Footballer in that Enire list..! In fact, pick any two from that list & still, their combined skills falls short of that of The Mighty AK8..!!

are you aerious ... or are you joking?
coz I can name hadadifar + mobaali who cover all sorts of playmaking necessities with long range as well as short range feeds, tackling and defensive work and combative duties at both left and right flanks, with both feet. not to mention long range shooting and freekick taking abilities.

but I think you were joking, so I'd say: umm ... errrr .... ahem .... errrr...

[Doctor DOOM]

if pouladi works out to be as good as hajisafi, then that is a success in my opinion cos now we have more than 2 realistic options we can consider for long run and wat better opportunity than start against easier teams like maldvies and friend matches?

I still think the hajsafi experiment as the LB hasnt really paid off yet and he hasnt excelled in it to become our bench mark for success at LB, for us to start comparing other candidates to him.

yes, he surprised us all in AC games and played well. but I think a part of that was because many of us expected so little of him. so much that when he did something acceptable, we perceived it as spectacular!

and mind you, he was back to his old fumbling LB against iraq. so maybe it is worth to keep trying him at LB. but he certainly cannot be the bench mark or measuring stick for that post.

especially when at the moment we have better options than him; mahini

[Hadi]

lets face it, we are left with mediocre players.

no longer does our team boast 11 A class Asian players.

our rooster is filled with mediocre players, who earn big money but play little football.

[yashar_fasihnia]

I still think the hajsafi experiment as the LB hasnt really paid off yet and he hasnt excelled in it to become our bench mark for success at LB, for us to start comparing other candidates to him.

yes, he surprised us all in AC games and played well. but I think a part of that was because many of us expected so little of him. so much that when he did something acceptable, we perceived it as spectacular!

and mind you, he was back to his old fumbling LB against iraq. so maybe it is worth to keep trying him at LB. but he certainly cannot be the bench mark or measuring stick for that post.

especially when at the moment we have better options than him; mahini

mahini hasnt proven himself in TM either (although not given the chance), so we cant assume he will do better than hajisafi. there have been tons of players who did well in the league but fell short in TM (enayati, khatibi, madanchi, kazemian, mobali, borhani, majidi, etc), so whether mahini will do better than hajisafi or not is still to be seen. but for that to happen, he needs to be invited/tested to TM first and this hasnt happened under any of the TM coaches so far.

[yashar_fasihnia]

Dear:
Would that apply to Abdulghasem too?
Nosrati, Satar , Ehsan all were all first tried for LB position at young age while they were playing for U23 ( Nosrati, Satar) or u19 (Hajsafi) but Dehnavi is almost 30 years old. Where would he play?
If at RB why not Hosseini from Zobahan, & if CD why not Talebi ?
I will response to your Pouladi option at later time when/if he actually play for new position.

the focus and point of my post was pouladi getting a shot at LB. wat i have seen of him, he is worth a try as LB. we are getting so desperate that i personally would like to see any option which even partially has a chance to be tested.

[St_Mark]

the focus and point of my post was pouladi getting a shot at LB. wat i have seen of him, he is worth a try as LB. we are getting so desperate that i personally would like to see any option which even partially has a chance to be tested.

Dear:
I agree about Mehrdad, just as you i like him and i think he is a valuable player wherever he play. He was our starter even for U19, U23 years back.
I take your point with respect, my view about some of these shifts is that player himself must like, accept new assignment otherwise often it is just temporarily like in case of Nosrati and Zare'.

[St_Mark]

mahini hasnt proven himself in TM either (although not given the chance), so we cant assume he will do better than hajisafi. there have been tons of players who did well in the league but fell short in TM (enayati, khatibi, madanchi, kazemian, mobali, borhani, majidi, etc), so whether mahini will do better than hajisafi or not is still to be seen. but for that to happen, he needs to be invited/tested to TM first and this hasnt happened under any of the TM coaches so far.

Re: Mahini
I agree regardless of what we think of him, he has to show his value in TM.
I think he is best we got but as you said lets see if TM coach see that too.

A reminder:
He played for TM U23 (Doha) as Right back ( ahead of Heidari), and if i am not wrong as LB for TM U19.
In his clubs he played CD & DM & LB for Esteghlal A and LB for Zobahan.

[Doctor DOOM]

mahini hasnt proven himself in TM either (although not given the chance), so we cant assume he will do better than hajisafi. there have been tons of players who did well in the league but fell short in TM (enayati, khatibi, madanchi, kazemian, mobali, borhani, majidi, etc), so whether mahini will do better than hajisafi or not is still to be seen. but for that to happen, he needs to be invited/tested to TM first and this hasnt happened under any of the TM coaches so far.

true.
and I think he ought to be given enough chances to prove himself

[BacheLot]

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are you aerious ... or are you joking?
coz I can name hadadifar + mobaali who cover all sorts of playmaking necessities with long range as well as short range feeds, tackling and defensive work and combative duties at both left and right flanks, with both feet. not to mention long range shooting and freekick taking abilities.

but I think you were joking, so I'd say: umm ... errrr .... ahem .... errrr...

Well the 2 for 1 deal was a bit of exaggeration to pinpoint the sad Fact that He Still is the best Overall Footballer in that entire roster in the camp..!

& overall I'd have to agree with Hadi..! Most of the players in that camp are not much more than a bunch of overrated, overpaid Average talented footballers..! Sure they are better than the garbage found in below average neighboring Arab nations, but not really a class above..!
Still combined we certainly have enough talent to qualify out of AFC to WC..! So anything short of that would be a major disappointment from a coach of CQ..!
Btw
I Think we should stick it out with Haj Safi as the starting LB in TM & only try Mahini & few others as possible replacements..! RB & LB are 2 of the most demanding positions in today's modern football considering the high level of offensive contributions expected from WingBacks in today's formations & tactics..! It takes a lot of time on the position to finally come up with a perfected one & we have already wares a bunch games on this highly promising young lad..! We can't keep trying on a new guy every other game & expect a solid option come final WCQ Games..!
I wonder if GR Rezaie can perform half as good on the left wing..! Mahini seems more Promissing Defensively buy don't care for him posing much danger on offense..!

[St_Mark]

sheet and shuffling the deck.

Pouladi as LB
Dehnavi as LB
Mahini as RB
Montazeri as CB
Both Hossein & Pejman have experience in new position but for Dehnavi and Pouladi this is their first time.
Trying a 30 years old player for the first time in TM in a position he has never played before is not consistent with claims of giving chance to young players.
Why not Queiroz play LB himself ?

[zzgloo]

We have ourseleves a good coach !

I counted all photos from Austria's camp.....about 100....
In more than 75 of them , you can see Queiroz......
In only 5 out of 75 photos with Queiroz in it, he is just watching....
in other 70 ,he has the body language in which he is teaching something......
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Never have I seen such hands on coach before.......
It appears he is setting up his system,and it is unlike what players used to do........

[BacheLot]

so whats the biggest surprise or possible big mistake drop amongst the final 24 cut..?

[Doctor DOOM]

What? No Nowroozi? he isnt even injured to be struck off.
very strange.


پازل تاكتيكي مربيان تيم ملي، گلزن نمي*خواهد
پازل تاكتيكي مربيان تيم ملي، گلزن نمي*خواهد
آرش نوعدوستي
90: با اعلام جديد ليست تيم*ملي توسط كارلوس كي*روش مي*توان نتيجه گرفت كه آقاي گل*هاي ليگ برتر جايي در پازل تاكتيكي مربيان تيم*ملي ندازند. كي*روش ليست جديد خود را براي رويارويي با ماداگاسكار و مالديو اعلام كرد اما در كمال تعجب اثري از نام رضا نوروزي مهاجم 24 گله فولاد خوزستان كه اتفاقا ركورد بسيار جالبي را در تاريخ ليگ برتر بر جاي گذاشته است، نيست.

نوروزي در تيم* استيل*آذين كنار بزرگاني مثل علي كريمي، مهدوي*كيا، فريدون زندي و ... بود اما گلزن قهار نشان داد كه روي ضربات سر و پا تبحر خاصي داشت، او دو فصل هم راهي فولاد خوزستان شد و به زغم اينكه چند ديدار را به دليل آسيب*ديدگي از دست داد، توانست تعداد گلهاي خود را از مرز 24 عبور دهد و صاحب يك ركورد بي*نظير شود. اگر به بازي*هاي فولاد خوزستان دقت كرده باشيد متوجه مي*شويد نوروزي به هر نحوي گلزني كرده، ضربات سر، بغل پا، شوت از راه دور و ضربات ايستگاهي! يعني تخصص اين بازيكن مثل ديگر مهاجمان فقط از موقعيت*هاي بدست آمده، در محوطه جريمه فوتبال نيست بلكه برعكس، او براي خودش نيز ايجاد موقعيت كرده و در زمان بن*بست نيز از ضربات ايستگاهي قفل دروازه حريف را باز كرده است. (نگاهي به 6 گل نوروزي روي ضربات ايستگاهي بياندازيد)
با اين آمار خوب و تخصص در گلزني، يك مهاجم بايد چكار كند تا در ليست تيم ملي باشد؟

البته اگر نگاهي به گلزنان ده دوره ليگ داشته باشيم، به قرباني شدن آقاي گل*ها پي مي*بريم؛ اما واقعا نمي*دانيم چرا در كشورهاي ديگر (حالا از كشورهاي صاحب فوتبال فاكتور مي*گيريم) همواره آقاي گل ليگ جايگاه ويژه*اي در تيم*ملي دارد و از او با توجه به فرصتي كه مي*دهند، به نحو احسن استفاده مي*كنند اما در كشورمان برعكس است.

لازم به ذكر است رضا نوروزي در اردوي اتريش به گواه خود ملي*پوشان يكي از بازيكنان آماده بود و در آخرين ديدار تداركاتي كه تيم* كي*روش از حريف عقب بود، يك گل زد و يك پاس گل داد تا نقش بسزايي در پيروزي تيم ملي داشته باشد.

خلاصه كلام اينكه اميدواريم معظل فوتبال كشورمان نيز برطرف شود يا اينكه خود كي*روش كه يك مربي حرفه*اي است، برطرف كند تا حداقل اين معظل از فوتبال ايران كنار برود و بهايي به آقاي گل ليگ برتر بدهيم.


and here's Nowroozi, himself:

رضا نوروزي مهاجم تيم فوتبال فولاد خوزستان در گفتگو با خبرنگار باشگاه خبرنگاران افزود: كي روش سرمربي تيم در دعوت نكردنم سليقه اي عمل كرد، زيرا هيچ مشكلي از لحاظ فني و مصدوميت ندارم و به نظرم هر وقت در بازيهاي تداركاتي تيم در اتريش به زمين مسابقه رفتم جزو نفرات برتر بودم و حتي يك گل هم زدم.
نوروزي در خصوص وضعيت تيم ملي در اردوي اتريش اظهار داشت: سطح تمرين دادن كي روش در اردوي اتريش نسبت به مربيان داخلي بسيار محسوس بود و بازيهاي دوستانه مناسبي هم براي مصاف با مالديو از سوي مسئولان فوتبال تدارك داده شد و در كل اردوي آماده سازي بسيار خوبي بود. وي خاطرنشان كرد: با تمرينات مستمر در تيم فولاد خوزستان سعي مي كنم در ليگ يازدهم مثمر ثمر باشم و مانند فصل گذشته از آقاي گلي خود دفاع كنم و دوباره نظر كي روش را براي دعوت شدنم به تيم ملي جلب كنم

I'm willing to bet if he, asthe league's top scorer, was a part of those two shitty, good for nothing blue/red teams, the media would have created a living hell for quieroz with offensive article after article!

[Hajagha]

^ Based on the tone of the paper, either the coach or the author must be idiot.

mmmm second scenario, how much money the author got to make this guy like Ruud van Nistelrooy?

I thought we brought this coach to trust, otherwise we had our other coaches to make fun of them.

Cheers,