Goalkeeping problem on the horizon?

[maij]

Just based on the keeper's experience and overall performance. Rahmati has about 70 caps for Iran (Rahman only about 1-2 I think), and for sure his success outweighs Ahmadi. Enormous difference between the two.

Hmmmmm....I am not interested in how many matches each played. That is history. Current form is NOW and not BEFORE.

Don't you believe that any human is liable to lose form , age , can become ill , morally and psychologically becomes weaker ?

[Hosseini]

Hmmmmm....I am not interested in how many matches each played. That is history. Current form is NOW and not BEFORE.

Don't you believe that any human is liable to lose form , age , can become ill , morally and psychologically becomes weaker ?

Well, when I analyze a player's number of matches that he's played and has played a lot, that demonstrates experience and consistency. Rahmati has kept great form for about 70 matches, I do not believe we should write him off because of a few blunders. I admit he's in a slump, but the guy's promising and I see him getting out of it soon.

[maij]

Well, when I analyze a player's number of matches that he's played and has played a lot, that demonstrates experience and consistency. Rahmati has kept great form for about 70 matches, I do not believe we should write him off because of a few blunders. I admit he's in a slump, but the guy's promising and I see him getting out of it soon.

Thanks God that you admit that he is in a slump. That is we are trying to say.

Now...if you have players that are going through a bad patch , and that happens to the best players in the world , the coach needs to have options and solutions rather than sit on his ass saying that he is the one and the only player (keeper) because he played x matches for me.

Despite my criticism , I like to see Rahmati back in form for club and country because that will make things so much easier. But i am worried about this mentality that many coaches and fans have in football and that is sticking to the same old faces regardless to the current form. Iran's football is like that. Once a player makes a name for himself , he is unmovable and probably set for life

[Hosseini]

I definatly understand your point, but there's no need to panic yet. Rahmati still has 1-2 months to recover his form so I don't think we should jump to conclusions and say we have a goalkeeping problem in the future, I can guarantee Queiroz won't do that.

Shahab and Haghighi are our backups so if the issue continues to arise we have them.

Thanks God that you admit that he is in a slump. That is we are trying to say.

Now...if you have players that are going through a bad patch , and that happens to the best players in the world , the coach needs to have options and solutions rather than sit on his ass saying that he is the one and the only player (keeper) because he played x matches for me.

Despite my criticism , I like to see Rahmati back in form for club and country because that will make things so much easier. But i am worried about this mentality that many coaches and fans have in football and that is sticking to the same old faces regardless to the current form. Iran's football is like that. Once a player makes a name for himself , he is unmovable and probably set for life

[Doctor DOOM]

Rahmati once again showed how horrible a form he is in and he just hasn’t fixed his exit problems. In the first half his idiotic exit almost resulted in a goal when he not only took out our own defender (I think emranzadeh), but also missed the ball. And a few seconds later, on another cross (corner), he WEAKLY punches the ball that barely fell outside our 18 and that too DEAD CENTER!!! At the same time Rahman Ahmadi was having a great show with sepahan, deflecting many dangerous shots in Qatar. Just underlines the fact that Rahmati isn’t the best keeper in Iran at the moment.

still we want to refer to what's ON PAPER and reputations?

[maij]

I think nearly everyone now is realizing how Rahmati's form has dipped.

I don't want to repeat myself , but there is quite a concern with him being the no. 1 GK of Team Melli. On the other hand , Rahman Ahmadi , who has hardly been my favorite Iranian Goalkeeper and has a track record of some bloopers in his career , is performing admirably for Sepahan. Take that !

[maij]

I definatly understand your point, but there's no need to panic yet. Rahmati still has 1-2 months to recover his form so I don't think we should jump to conclusions and say we have a goalkeeping problem in the future, I can guarantee Queiroz won't do that.

Shahab and Haghighi are our backups so if the issue continues to arise we have them.

Please ...Do tell me when is the right time to panic. Like after how many wrong timing for crosses , wrong exits , number of goals conceded!

[Hosseini]

Please ...Do tell me when is the right time to panic. Like after how many wrong timing for crosses , wrong exits , number of goals conceded!

If he continues this performance about mid-May + I didn't see such a bad performance in the Esteghlal game, while Ahmadi conceded a late second goal that put Sepahan a step behind.

I still think Rahmati is a better option for Team Melli handsdown.

[Doctor DOOM]

^ that goal, if there were 3 rahmatis or buffons even , in the goal they wouldnt have been able to block

Did u see the goal at all?

[Martin-Reza]

No need to argue with people thinking Ahmadi, who never was even a regular benchwarmer in TM, is suddenly the answer to a problem they invented. Rahmati is the best keeper we ever had, thank God we have a top professional coach at helm of TM so I am not worried some clown will suddenly step in for Rahmati.

[CHaMiLLionaire]

While I agree that Rahmati's form has dipped, Now is not the time to give Ahmadi a chance, when we are the verge of an important qualification. Perhaps in the friendlies Yes, But Ahmadi has never played for TM and lacks the necessary experience.

I'd still choose Rahmati. If i were you guys though id stop arguing, CQ has 20 years in the game and knows how to fix flaws in the team...

[maij]

No need to argue with people thinking Ahmadi, who never was even a regular benchwarmer in TM, is suddenly the answer to a problem they invented. Rahmati is the best keeper we ever had, thank God we have a top professional coach at helm of TM so I am not worried some clown will suddenly step in for Rahmati.

Out of all people , I find it is disappointing that you use such logic in your arguments.

First of all , if you have an argument for or against , it is prudent to give us content , rather than using petulant approach like "No use in arguing " or "Thanks God we have a top professional coach" !!!!

Second , Goalkeepers like Ahmadi , Talebloo, Lak , Haghighi , Hoshiyar , Roudbarian , Makani , and host of others are all legitimate contenders for Team Melli. It is not as if Team Melli's post " mal Babaye Rahmati hast " and no one can lay a claim to it !!!!

Third , if you do not wish to debate or take part in the post , then be prudent and respect the others who do wish to continue debating , instead of being bullish and defiant about it. Is that too much to ask?

Last and not least , for the record , I never claimed or suggested that Ahmadi should replace "Rahmati" because , using your own argument , "we have a top professional coach " to decide.

[maij]

While I agree that Rahmati's form has dipped, Now is not the time to give Ahmadi a chance, when we are the verge of an important qualification. Perhaps in the friendlies Yes, But Ahmadi has never played for TM and lacks the necessary experience.

I'd still choose Rahmati. If i were you guys though id stop arguing, CQ has 20 years in the game and knows how to fix flaws in the team...

Although you claim that "CQ has 20 years in the game and knows how to fix flaws" , that did not prevent you from giving us your wisdom and telling us all about Ahmadi and Rahmati !!!! So , where is the meat ??

It seems that we have more people talking on behalf of CQ than CQ himself ever realized !

[CHaMiLLionaire]

Although you claim that "CQ has 20 years in the game and knows how to fix flaws" , that did not prevent you from giving us your wisdom and telling us all about Ahmadi and Rahmati !!!! So , where is the meat ??

It seems that we have more people talking on behalf of CQ than CQ himself ever realized !

I just meant that we should trust CQ with his decisions...I am just giving my opinion.

[Martin-Reza]

Out of all people , I find it is disappointing that you use such logic in your arguments.

First of all , if you have an argument for or against , it is prudent to give us content , rather than using petulant approach like "No use in arguing " or "Thanks God we have a top professional coach" !!!!

Second , Goalkeepers like Ahmadi , Talebloo, Lak , Haghighi , Hoshiyar , Roudbarian , Makani , and host of others are all legitimate contenders for Team Melli. It is not as if Team Melli's post " mal Babaye Rahmati hast " and no one can lay a claim to it !!!!

Third , if you do not wish to debate or take part in the post , then be prudent and respect the others who do wish to continue debating , instead of being bullish and defiant about it. Is that too much to ask?

Last and not least , for the record , I never claimed or suggested that Ahmadi should replace "Rahmati" because , using your own argument , "we have a top professional coach " to decide.

I never said you claimed that. All of the named candidates aren't and have never been special. We know the older ones very well and certainly can say they have little to offer to make a serious claim for TM's number 1, also due to the fact they have been ignored by numerous TM coaches, while from the younger ones only two are regulary playing.

If we talk about serious contenders, it could be Haghighi, who first needs to become more than Rubin's third goalkeeper, Gordan, who is struggling with form much more than Rahmati ever did, Lak, who wasn't even an undisputed U23 number one and that for a very short time and maybe Forouzan, who I admit I can barely judge, but have seen two blunders too in clips, which doesn't give me the impression he is a future number 1 keeper who had completely been overseen everywhere before this season.