A question to Branko:

[Hadi]

The only real replacement we have is Shojaie who does not even have TM experience let alone WC experience. Without Navidkia, Mobali and Jabari....only Shojaie is left.

I do not think Nekonam or Zandi can fill that position.

[Amirza]

Good point DD
For those of you who failed to understand his point - DD knows we have have nobody at the level of Karimi - he just wants to know who our playmaker is going to be ? any ideas ? Hadi had it right about Shojaii - I also think now that Branko has refused to invite Mobali or some other playmaker - the young and inexperienced Shojaii may be our only playmaker in case Karimi is taken out.

[Nokhodi]

Karimi injured would be a huge loss, and no substitue could really replace him.
We have Shojaei though, and his natural position is the same as the one Karimi plays.

[Doctor DOOM]

hadi jan, I agree completely.

you see, the point in this thread was to prove how much pig-headed and obstinate ( laj baaz ) branko has become to actually compromise the team's quality, just so he stays on his irrational and illogical decision on mobaali.

apart from the fact that mobaali has so many attributes that neither shojaee, n-kia, jabbari have ( such a a tremendous freekick taking ability, magnificient shooting, ... ) , he is light years better than shoja'ee .
in each and every category.

you name it, he's better than shoja'ee.
experience
international exposure
shooting
playmaking
freekicks


and yet, we see branko behave just like a 12 year old girl, insist on wrong decisions, just to cover his own insecurities and immaturities !

which means he has compromised our TM's quality and fate, for his personal agendas !

now, some would support this behavior, some dont.
I prefer not to, coz for me , branko does NOT take priority.
it is ONLY TM and its quality.

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and I'm willing to bet, if such a disaster comes to pass ( karimi getting injured ), we will definitely NOT see shoja'ee enter.

branko will attempt another one of his nonesensical "patch-up" jobs which most probably will not help.

so basically he is ready to resort to some ill-fitting patch up job, rather than call up a play maker in absence of two who were ruled out ( jabbari and n-kia ) !!!

such immature laj baazi is seen only in 12 year old girls !

[Amin_]

I think that DD's got a point, and I've been wondering about it too.

Yes, we can name a lot of names as possible replacements, but realistically, none of them are experienced enough/in form to act in such an event in this crucial spot.

Shojaei - great prospect for the future, but never been a part of TM and not experienced enough for a WC!

Zandi - Yes, a playmaker, but has not played a decent match for God knows how long, and besides, never tried before in this position in TM.

Nekounam - Ok let's say he's capable of taking this spot (even tho he hasn't played that position that often)...But then, who's going to take HIS place as a DM?! Teymourian?! A youngster who's just recently joined the team to play in even a more crucial spot in front of world class midfielders?!

Branko doesn't even got a decent experienced DM to play next to Nekounam in a 4-2-3-1 formation, let alone getting rid of Nekounam and having to play Teymourian there...

- Khatibi - I can't believe some people are even considering putting him there...

Let me guess, the next one to consider is Madanchi right?! Probably the player with the worse overview of whole Asia, if not the world!

[Mansoor]

Amin jaan, those were the options Branko has for himself. For me, I wouldn't even bring Khatibi to WC, let alone subbing for Karimi! He likes him and I understand why.

For me the best option based on the available players is Zandi, but I have to agree with most that without Karimi we might as well pack our bags and come back!

[Amin_]

You know, thinking about it, I think that the best option in that scenario would be putting Mehdi up there...

It's a crucial spot in our squad, even more crucial than the right wing. Plus Mehdi's got a great view and passing skills, and he's a multifunctional player who can adjust very easily.

On the other hand, we don't really got anyone to replace Mehdi with, even tho Kazemian could fill in that spot.

I guess it's going to be Zandi after all. We just have to wait and see how an out of form player who hasn't played 2 proper matches all season, will fill in a spot he's never played before in TM at such a level...

[Doctor DOOM]

so basically, if the gods dont smile on us , and karimi gets injured, all branko can do is a patch up job.

it burns, coz if he had put away his juvenile laj baazi, we could have had a proper sub for karimi.

but noooooo !
branko has been indeed consistent in his immature obstinate behavior !

god help us.

[police in helicopter]

Mate, what is it with you? You were completely obsessed by Karimi...Karimi should not be in TM, he belongs in a circus, over and over and over again, the same negative attitude towards him.

Now that he proved you were wrong, you have the same OBSESSIVE attitude towards Branko. The WC is in 17 days, there nothing else to do, everything is set up. Now cheer for your country and for the guy who is coaching it.

[Doctor DOOM]

Mate, what is it with you? You were completely obsessed by Karimi...Karimi should not be in TM, he belongs in a circus, over and over and over again, the same negative attitude towards him.
Now that he proved you were wrong, you have the same OBSESSIVE attitude towards Branko. The WC is in 17 days, there nothing else to do, everything is set up. Now cheer for your country and for the guy who is coaching it.

I could put so many holes in this that would make it like a swiss cheese.

to make it short & let me put it as simple as possible.:
a player evolves, as did karimi, at bayern.

hope the do zari fell into the slot.

[Mansoor]

I could put so many holes in this that would make it like a swiss cheese.
to make it short & let me put it as simple as possible.:
a player evolves, as did karimi, at bayern.
hope the do zari fell into the slot.

No Dr jaan, it is the difference in the vision. You didn't have it on Karimi, you still don't have it on TM .... Your emotion and extreme reaction to "problem areas" drive you this far.

[Doctor DOOM]

na agha mansoor.

it has nothing to do with vision or ... .

when a player merely walks on the pitch, is out of breath after 55-60 minutes, doesnt help the defense, ... ( havent I gone over all this before ? why do I have to go on repeating myself ? ), then that player does not deserve to start games and be given such guarantees that would make him more complacent.

now, that player is taken and a great player is made out of him.
THIS is the point in time that one would say yes, he shd start.

to make it simple.

I put a raw potato in front of you, and ask u to eat it.
will you?

be careful now.
afterall, this so called "vision" says this potato would make a great french fries.

and yet, I bet you wont eat the raw potato.

shd I accuse you of not having this "vision" ?

or shd I wait so a good cook comes along and peels it of its slack and unwanted skin ( you read : laziness, complacency, .... ) and fries it ( you read : good and proper training and player development schemes ) , and then offer it to you?
which would see you gobble down the delicious fries before the plate hits the table.

vision?
I dont think so, my friend.

[Mansoor]

hmmm. Raw potato? Karimi was GREAT before joining Bayern, he is "doing" great there. Bayern doesn't have time for a "raw potato" from UAE or Iran. They pick up "great" players with the vision that "the player" can take it to the next step. The vision I was referring you to was when you were claiming nobody from Europe would pick him up, and when they did, you said he is there for T-shirt or something, and will be out soon. You never had the vision to see he would succeed in Bayern, and more than that, you never had the vision to even see him playing great before joining Bayern. Yes, at times "he was extremely tired" due to lack of proper conditioning and tense schedule, but you couldn't see through that to see he is a great player and what is the reason he is "tired". There was a "problem area", you just took it out of proportion by saying many things about his talent and quality .... sounds familiar now? Same lack of vision with TM. You do see "problem areas", no doubt, but your extreme approach and your emotion stops you from seeing beyond .....

Just my perspective in your approach, not necessarily a fact. Anyhow, how is/was the trip? Any visit to the camp?

[zzgloo]

na agha mansoor.

it has nothing to do with vision or ... .

when a player merely walks on the pitch, is out of breath after 55-60 minutes, doesnt help the defense, ... ( havent I gone over all this before ? why do I have to go on repeating myself ? ), then that player does not deserve to start games and be given such guarantees that would make him more complacent.

now, that player is taken and a great player is made out of him.
THIS is the point in time that one would say yes, he shd start.

to make it simple.

I put a raw potato in front of you, and ask u to eat it.
will you?

be careful now.
afterall, this so called "vision" says this potato would make a great french fries.

and yet, I bet you wont eat the raw potato.

shd I accuse you of not having this "vision" ?

or shd I wait so a good cook comes along and peels it of its slack and unwanted skin ( you read : laziness, complacency, .... ) and fries it ( you read : good and proper training and player development schemes ) , and then offer it to you?
which would see you gobble down the delicious fries before the plate hits the table.

vision?
I dont think so, my friend.

DD Jan,,,,
1- thanks for changing the slogan under your posts,to " ALL THAT MATTERS IS TM ".........IT proves your point,that a raw potato is getting closer to french fries !!
2-I agree with you only in the part about , togih shodan e karimi dar bayern, and the bayern coach did a job,the coaches in Iran,branko,and his romanian coach in UAE,could not do !!!
3-Remember ,you heard it from me,here,...we are going to see shojaie and madanchi alot,and even as starter in our game with Coretia !!,as the part branko was coded as saying ,there will be a "surprize line up ".
4-Your point,can be true about Kia, and many other players, as well as other WC teams....therefore,not a new question.
5- We are getting closer to the real action, and I am glad you are closer to a compromise as well.........it is good to have you here

[faraz]

so basically, if the gods dont smile on us , and karimi gets injured, all branko can do is a patch up job.

If (god forbid) Karimi gets injured in the lead-up to the World Cup, and Branko performs a "patch up" job, I will be more than happy. We don't have ANY players even close to Karimi - what do you possibly expect the coach to do in that situation?

And if for one second you think that Mobali could fill even 20% of what Karimi does, you are mistaken my friend.

Now, can we please stop talking about worst-case scenarios, and focus on some positives? Or is it completely impossible for you to show some real support for your team?

Listen

No one here has said Branko's decision-making is perfect. But then again, if you or Mansoor, or ZZ or Behzad or I were coach, we'd each have different philosophies and certain players that we personally like. There would be a huge conflict between all of our formations and players; however, I would not start calling any of you cowards, or "laj-baz" or... just so the player I PERSONALLY like (doesn't mean he's realistically capable of playing in that position) gets hyped by the media. Yet, I would respect each and every one of your opinions.

Now, when we talk about Branko - he has stats and knowledge of each player that you and I can not dream of having. I am sure there are definite and correct reasons for his choices and subs for the various positions, and not just Karimi's.

Let's start trusting our head coach of 5 years, no?