Uzbekistan - IRAN (WCQ June 2012)

[Doctor DOOM]

FIRST HALF -
SECOND HALF -

[Doctor DOOM]

After some 15-20 minutes (no thanks to pfdc servers being busy):

(REVISED SCORES after being reminded how euphorically generous I was yesterday with scores)

RAHMATI – 7.5
He did have a couple of fantastic saves. But he also conceded a goal (that shd have been given) and he showed he hasn’t remedied his weakness on crosses

MAHINI – 5.5
He was left alone on the right side, no thanks to our prima-donna jabbari refusing to do ANY DAMN THING. But he also did have a horrible back pass that almost led to a goal. and a few other mistakes that reduce his score. I expected more from him.

MONTAZERI - 6
He proved trusting him to pair up with Hosseini may not be a bad idea. I’d say lets maintain this duo in the central defense. A few mistakes here and there. But nothing out of ordinary given Iranian football and its low productivity in defense

HOSSEINI – 6.5
Same as Montazeri. I like this duo. Seems more intelligent than the aghili-hosseini one.

PEJMAN NOURI – 5.5
Seemed to be everywhere. A total work horse. But with CQ putting 2 lefties on the left side, they all covered each other well (unlike the right side where only Mahini was to handle all the attacks!) had a few hic-ups though

NEKOUNAM – 5
Almost all his score is for his shot (which if we had a forward in the line up, he’d have pounced on the spilled rebound ball and scored. But it seems CQ didn’t like teams with forwards until minute 75!!!). had a few good passes and acts. But was very invisible for long periods too

ANDO – 7.5
He basically made up our midfield belt and compensated for that idiot Jabbari’s non-presence and Nekounam’s low visibility

HAJSAFI – 6
he ran a lot and helped cement our left side. Not much in going forward though. I wonder why Pouladi didn’t play.

KARIMI – 5
Again, like Nekounam had a few instances of productivity, but was marked out of the game by tough marksmen.

JABBARI – 1
This score of 1 is for the ONLY thing he did the entire game that proved useful for the team: walk out of the pitch to be replaced by Khalatbari. What a waste of spot!

EBRAHIMI – 3.5
Was totally out of place and was invisible. His exit was totally justified. He isn’t a natural striker and obviously didn’t have any impact on the team’s scant few attacks. I wasn’t impressed with him. But it doesn’t mean he shd be dropped from the overall TM roster.

HEIDARI – 6
His entry did bring a bit of stability to the right side as he, unlike prima-donna Jabbari, did help with the defense and ran more to cover more areas. That’s why we saw less mistakes by Mahini too. But nothing really special in the day almost the entire team played badly


KHALATBARI – 7.5
For his short stint he certainly did have a major impact on the team and the result. I really wonder why CQ didn’t bring him in the first half for ebrahimi or jabbari

ANSARIFARD – 7.5
Mainly for his fantastic and precise pass to Khalatbari. A short stint, however.


THE TEAM – 6
Mostly becoz we won and got the 3 points. But the quality of their performance was very very low.

CQ – 6
Until minute 75, and seeing his starting line up (without a single forward) and persistence with jabbari and even karimi, I’d have given him a score of ‘4’. The other 3.5 is for his last two subs who took care of the job. Our first game wasn’t very convincing and left a LOT to be desired. Be it with line up, strategy, team-work, … etc. I expect (and we ALL shd expect) more from a coach with his resume.

[Martin-Reza]

Rahmati shireh, by far the best player, no chance on the goal, perfect match by him.

Very disappointing display apart from him, we are simply not the same team on the road. Much work for Carlos to do, but thanks to Rahmati, Ando, Ansarifard and Khalatbari we had a perfect start.

[maij]

Doc: While your first post on the performance and match analysis was quite good , you then spoiled it by being so generous with your marks and not strictly in agreement with the first post.

Apart from Rahmati , the whole team was bad. Take Khalatbary and Karim Ansarifard out of the formula , because they were sub players , and the fact that they combined to score the goal made me so happy.

I think this was one of the worst official matches of Team melli for as far as I remember. I definitely do not agree that the quarter final match against S. Korea in AC 2011 was as bad as this , according to some posters in the general forum. This match is definitely in the waste basket to be forgotten , but with a special mention to the glorious goal of Khalatbary and the world class assist of Ansarifard.

Javad Nekounam was incredibly weak , and not for the first time in the last few years.
Ali karimi was actually trying very hard , but....!!! Enough of this , it is simply sad to see him try and try , yet he just does not have it in his lungs or legs.

Ando , Jabbari were as bad as Nekounam.

Hossein Mahini was simply a disaster.
Who is this Ebrahimi ? What is so magical about him ?

Pejman Nouri was embarrassing.

3 other players deserve credit for me. Hosseini , Montazeri and Haj Safy.

I guess the worst performance , and by far was by Carlos Queiroz. I am seriously doubting this guy's ability to have a great or even a moderate impact on Team Melli. His initial zany lineup , game plan , poor team tactics , elementary errors , basic passing mistakes combined with other factors , leaves me in serious doubt. Even if we make it to Brazil and I hope we do , I think this man is not capable of improving the quality or standard of Team Melli. This is the ugliest win of Team Melli for as long as I remember , and frankly , I don't care about the performance. But , I don't like to fool myself , nor lie up to my teeth like some people do about Team Melli. The fact is clear , this team is in dire need of change and improvement.

[BacheLot]

CQ went way too experimental ..! I don't know wtf was he trying to pull, with his miss positionings & wack starting lineup..!? lol

Hala khoob yeki az too k00nemoon dar aavordim..ha..! lol

[KasraKhan]

^ I agree.

I love CQ and all, and he knows 1000 times more than me, but for the life of me, I can't understand why he started Ebrahimi and Montazaeri. Montazeri had a decent game, but Ebrahimi didn't touch the ball. I just don't understand why you would start two players who have ZERO caps in such a huge international world cup qualifying match, away too. Makes no sense.

[St_Mark]

After some 15-20 minutes (no thanks to pfdc servers being busy):

He was left alone on the right side, no thanks to our prima-donna jabbari refusing to do ANY DAMN THING. But he also did have a horrible back pass that almost led to a goal. and a few other mistakes that reduce his score. I expected more from him.
MONTAZERI - 7.5
Same as Montazeri. I like this duo. Seems more intelligent than the aghili-hosseini one.

Seemed to be everywhere. A total work horse. But with CQ putting 2 lefties on the left side, they all covered each other well (unlike the right side where only Mahini was to handle all the attacks!) had a few hic-ups though

Again, like Nekounam had a few instances of productivity, but was marked out of the game by tough marksmen.

This score of 1 is for the ONLY thing he did the entire game that proved useful for the team: walk out of the pitch to be replaced by Khalatbari. What a waste of spot!

Mainly for his fantastic and precise pass to Khalatbari. A short stint, however.

Mostly becoz we won and got the 3 points. But the quality of their performance was very very low.

If Iran has played as you described so bad why coach get such high mark?
Iran played miserable game. Queiroz game plan and formation was not working and questionable. Iran simply was lucky and this game was one of those bizarre game and unjust result.
I think best is to call the game as is regardless of who is the coach.
If you did not know who is the coach for this match and seen it would you give that high mark to the coach?
Queiroz is best we ever had but that does not mean he is immune from critics .
One or two bad performance will be tolerated but i am afraid even Queiroz has to deliver otherwise even him as big as he is will face "Ali Daei " ! chant
It's a cruel game
I wish himluck again and i hope this one game was an exception because fans have much higher expectation from him.

[Doctor DOOM]

Doc: While your first post on the performance and match analysis was quite good , you then spoiled it by being so generous with your marks and not strictly in agreement with the first post.

lol. I know. I also agree. I guess the euphoria of the 3 points snatched at the jaws of deserved defeat got the better of me.
perhaps I shd have waited another 20 minutes

I guess we can shave off about 1-2 points off everyone in my scoring to be more precise.





I guess we all know I'm not among those who just close their eyes and accept whatever the coach does/say. so no chance I'd give CQ a pass card so easily.
the only explanation for CQ's PRE game plan (still absolutely no excuse for that f**k up of a starting line up and even the BIGGEST f**k up of them all: allowing jabbari remain on the pitch any further than the first 20 minutes) is to tire the uzbeks so much that they would be vulnerable to intro of two quick footed attackers (khalatbari and ansarifard).

yes. that would make sense ... as a PRE-game plan.
But for God's sake what the hell was he thinking by having no striker in the team from the start? what the hell was he doing after he saw how our midfield was OVER-POWERED numerically (no strikers so opponent defenders come join in) as well as technically (No-shows like jabbari and karimi and ebrahimi) and still did not a damned thing for 70 minutes?
in coaching terms that's called a freaking brain-freeze ... expected from rookie coaches who behave like deer, frozen, caught in the headlights of a speeding car (pretty much like branko in second half vs. mexico).
But for someone like CQ and his resume'? that was an EMBARRASSMENT!

He'd better get his head out of his "real madrid/portugal" non-trophy cabinet and see what we have and what we dont have.
even if that was the strategy, then he shd have had at least ONE striker who'd keep a couple of defenders at bay and subbed BOTH jabbari and ebrahimi for their no-show in the first half itself.

[Nokhodi]

First of all a little note about CQ's international tenure. When he was in Portugal he was criticized for 3 things.
1- Defensive approach despite having amaizing offensive talent available.
2- Attitude towards friendlies - they didn't play many and if they did they would take it very easy or play weak teams.
3- Odd selections.

All 3 of these are things TM fans love to complain about so be prepared to hear alot more against CQ even if we qualify. I smell a Branoesque witch hunt starting soon.

As for the game.

1 - Midfield did not exist. We really didn't have a forward (until the last 15), but the midfield could not pass, shoot or create any chances
2 - No one was able to move the ball forward. There was no forward momentum again until Ansarifard came in.
3 - Players were asleep, especially in the 1st half. Too many misplaced passes, poor runs, asking for a call and stopping play even if there is no whistle.... WAKE THE F*** UP, IT'S THE DAMN WORLD CUP WE WANT
4 - Nekounam was not covering the attacking midfielders of Uzbekistan. At least 2 of their really good chances were because Nekounam is always lagging or forgets to mark up his man.
5 - Mahini was risky. He did really well at times, and then performed like and incompetent schmuck at other moments.
6 - Montazeri was ok. Aghili is a better defender, but Montazeri is smarter.
7 - Ando despite his last pass, is terrible in attack. His passes are always off, his shots and short distance play very poor. Thank goodness he is a hustler.
8 - Ansarifard's pass to KB was sublime, and the finish by KB was beautiful. 9/10 that would have been a f*** up by TM players.
9 - First half performance was the worst TM match I have seen since Iran-Bahrain 2001. I am happy with the 3 points. TM played like how Arab nations play against us. Tokhmi, cheap, no possesion and then score in the last minute to break hearts.
10 -Regarding the starting lineup. Isn't this what half of you always want? Switch x with y, move z up to b....; the sad truth is most players who make it to TM with a few exceptions are pretty much the same as the rest +/- 5%. It is why every coach calls up the same core. There are certain specific functions within the machine they require and that is all they are there to do. Inclusion of Ebrahimi today showed that. Brilliant in the league, completely outclassed on the international stage.
11 -Nekounam and Jabbari's form was extremely worrying. Mahini, Nouri, and Karimi were poor. Heydari, KB and Ansarifard good subs and Rahmati was a superstar. I'm glad CQ didn't bow to pressure there and play someone else.
12 - This game at points was not all about failure of the tactics. Some of the players seemed to have forgotten the most basic skills. You could have the best coach on earth and train every day and have the finest friendlies, but if your players freeze up like that you will get nowhere.
13 - Approach to Qatar game will be completely different I am sure.
14 - I think we all really want Dejagah and Ghazi back in the squad quick. Hustle and strength. TM needs it against everyone.

[zzgloo]

Niether Uzbakistan is that Good,nor TM is that Bad ....nor CQ is that bad......

No one was at fault but CQ...( but he deserves the benefit of the doubt..and too soon to be judged )
We will shoot ourseleves in the feet,if we alianate CQ at this stage........The guy is still figuring his way around....just like Kranjar of the Sepahan after a misrable season with perspolise....I just hope CQ adjustment would not take that Long.

[Hadi]

how can you give any of Iran's players a higher score than 5?

[zzgloo]

تحلیل هاشمیان از بازی ایران:



فاصله هافبک*های دفاعی با مهاجمان زیاد بود/ پیروزی بر ازبکستان را فراموش کنیم



مهاجم پیشین تیم ملی فوتبال ایران ضمن ارزیابی فنی بازی تیم**های ایران و ازبکستان، گفت: باید این پیروزی را فراموش کرده و از الان به بازی با قطر فکر کنیم.





به گزارش خبرنگار مهر، وحید هاشمیان مهاجم پیشین تیم ملی پس از پیروزی تیم ایران برابر ازبکستان به تحلیل این مسابقه پرداخت. او در سایت شخصی*اش درباره اولین مسابقه تیم ملی در دور نهایی انتخابی جام جهانی نوشت:

شروع یک تورنمنت یا مسابقاتی مانند مرحله گروهی انتخابی جام جهانی باعث می*شود که همیشه آن بازی مدنظر و مطلوب شکل نگیرد. ایران هم در نخستین بازی خود در مرحله نهایی رقابت*های انتخابی جام جهانی 2014 برزیل باید در خارج از خانه و در شرایطی که تازه فصل رقابت*های باشگاهی به پایان رسیده و بازیکنان مجبور بودند پس از این مسابقات به اردوی تیم ملی بروند به میدان رفت. من چنین شرایطی را در مسابقات مقدماتی جام جهانی 2006 آلمان تجربه کرده بودم. اولین بازی مرحله نهایی در زمین بحرین برگزار شد. باید گفت که در چنین مسابقاتی یک تیم به مرور زمان ارنج خود را پیدا می*کند.

در بازی ایران مقابل ازبکستان کارلوس کی*روش سرمربی ایران تفکرات خود را به خوبی در زمین پیاده کرد. ابتدا حریف را محک زد و نیمه نخست را مساوی از زمین خارج شد. این درحالی بود که در خط حمله از ابراهیمی، حاج*صفی و کریمی که هافبک*های هجومی هستند استفاده کرده بود. حفظ توپ و جنگندگی این سه بازیکن دلیل استفاده از آنان در این قسمت از زمین می*تواند باشد.

در مقابل، ازبکستان چند بازیکن اصلی خود را در اختیار نداشت. 10 دقیقه اول آنها با ترس بازی می*کردند و حفظ توپ در دستور کارشان بود اما رفته*رفته حمله کردند و در حوالی دقیقه 20 نخستین خطر جدی را روی دروازه ایران ایجاد کردند. بازی ازبک*ها باعث شد که کی*روش در سبک بازی* تیم ملی تغییراتی به وجود بیاورد. آمدن خسرو حیدری در اواخر نیمه اول به همین دلیل بود. خسرو مدافعی با قابلیت نفوذ بیشتر است. همین موضوع باعث شد که ما نیمه دوم را کمی هجومی*تر آغاز کنیم.

در ادامه تعویض*های بعدی کی*روش در نیمه دوم نشان می*داد که او دریافته نمی*تواند با دفاع مطلق جلوی حملات ازبکستان را سد کند. ازبک*ها بازیکنانی قلدر و دونده*ای بودند که فیزیک بدنی عالی داشتند. آنها هر زمان که توپ را از دست می*دادند، با پرسینگ و دوندگی به *دنبال پس گرفتن آن بودند و به* محض تصاحب توپ، حملات خود را پایه*ریزی می*کردند. با این حال آخر بازی مرتکب یک اشتباه شدند.

هاشمیان در ادامه به فشار تیم ازبکستان اشاره کرده و خاطر نشان کرده است: به اعتقاد من یک امتیاز نیز در زمین ازبکستان خوب بود، آنها خیلی خوب بازی کردند. تعداد کرنرهای ازبکستان در مقابل ما بسیار بالا بود و آمار نشان می*دهد که این تیم بیشتر صاحب توپ و میدان بوده و موقعیت*های بیشتری خلق کرده است. با این حال این برد زیر چنین فشاری نتیجه بسیار خوبی محسوب می*شود.

پیروزی مقابل ازبکستان در شرایطی حاصل شد که فاصله بین هافبک*های دفاعی ما و خط حمله زیاد بود. آندو و جواد نکونام باید در هنگام حمله اضافه می*شدند، اما نظر مربی این بود که آنها نفوذ نکنند. به هرحال باید این برد را فراموش کنیم و به فکر بازی بعدی*مان مقابل قطر باشیم. کسب سه امتیاز خانگی مقابل این تیم می*تواند گام بلندی به سوی جام جهانی 2014 باشد.

[maij]

lol. I know. I also agree. I guess the euphoria of the 3 points snatched at the jaws of deserved defeat got the better of me.
perhaps I shd have waited another 20 minutes

I guess we can shave off about 1-2 points off everyone in my scoring to be more precise.

.

OK..Doc , we forgive you

I suppose in the midst of the euphoria of the 3 points , it is so easy to forget the negatives , but when the dust settles down , the bitter facts start to crop up.

On a personal note , I have been in the receiving end of some critical remarks and sometimes even jokes from the crowds in our close circles of friends because of that poor display by TM. Being a staunch supporter , I do get theses odd remarks now and then but all I could say this time was "FORGET this game ., and watch next week against Qatar. It will be totally different"

I am thinking of a place to hide if things goes wrong...

[St_Mark]

Numbers speak volume

IV stat

[Martin-Reza]

^ Lol, looking at the "false passes" graph, it really seems like Iran tried hard to get back into the game after the break, but miserably failed and then simply gave up and pulled back only hoping for counter attacks.