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    Are we about to get used to counter attacking style ?

    The Uzbakistan game is finished....and we need to look forward.....
    But, while TM players had very little time to understand what CQ had in mind..and even less training time...nevertheless,based on defensive minded past coaching style of CQ...one can see what he had in mind...and may be ,just may be,....we are going to see a lot more of these nail biting style of his..
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    1- A first half ball control and assesing style.
    2-No fowards ,and supposedly the control of the middle game in the first half.
    3-Luring Uzbakistan to press and go all out attack.
    4-Even Uzbakistan Goal keeper joining the attack and coming forward.
    5-While being attacked constantly,two subs, not on defense, but on forwards.
    6-Ansarifard,on the counter attacking last minute goal,appeared to know exactly what was he about to do..there was no hasitance ( normal with TM old standards )as what he did,and crossed immidiatly to the right place for Khalatbary.
    7-And Khalatbari's perfect positions...
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    all in all, The TM's last minutes goal, does not look as so coincidental .....
    and looking at games in how Chelsea of England won over Barca,and Bayen Munich,in similar fashon.......and defensive mentality of CQ...
    may be, this is what QC is about ?.....may be, with more chemistry and training of CQ's style in TM,..this is how it is going to be against up-coming strong teams .....and we need to get used to it.
    Last edited by zzgloo; 06-04-2012, 12:15 PM.

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    Counter attacking style of football has never been our type of display and not sure it will soon be. That tactic is mainly utilized by teams which possess speed, high stamina, great connection between all 3 lines, all of the above items incorporated with the most crucial factor especially up front on the attack Zone "IQ" something that has been dearly missing amongst our players of the newer generation.

    So long as our top scorers of IPL are the likes of Borhani, Enayati etc We're doomed to missing great scoring opportunities game after game, this less reliance on our strikers, particularly on counter attack tactics

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      #3
      Btw I do agree with Bahram jaan's conclusion and have our last 2 subs were part of the game Plan, rightfully so

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        #4
        It is how ever the prefered strategy of teams playing against teams who are going to own the time of possession.
        The speed required for counter attack,does not neccessarly come from faster players...it comes from pre-practiced sheems.
        Last edited by zzgloo; 06-04-2012, 12:54 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by zzgloo View Post
          It is how ever the prefered strategy of teams playing against teams who are going to own the time of possession.
          The speed required for counter attack,does not neccessarly come from faster players...it comes from pre-practiced sheems.
          It comes from little 169cm burst of speed with the initials M.R.K, the schemes will make the thinking take less time, but you will never see a physical and slow team relying on counter attack.
          AKP Parti, Turkiye - Haj Bernie Sandersoglu

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            #6
            Originally posted by KeonKish View Post
            It comes from little 169cm burst of speed with the initials M.R.K, the schemes will make the thinking take less time, but you will never see a physical and slow team relying on counter attack.
            Why not ?
            even the " Slowest " teams have some players who can run the 100 dash with decent numbers.........and just look at Khalatbari and Ansarifard...which one is a super fast player ?....
            as you said, the shemes and pre-practiced works compensate for speed....when players know exactly what to do before even they recieve the ball.

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              #7
              Originally posted by zzgloo View Post
              Why not ?
              even the " Slowest " teams have some players who can run the 100 dash with decent numbers.........and just look at Khalatbari and Ansarifard...which one is a super fast player ?....
              as you said, the shemes and pre-practiced works compensate for speed....when players know exactly what to do before even they recieve the ball.

              Well my point was, if the counter attack happens to be Unconventional, a slower team's winger would not be as deadly as a Khalatabari blasting down the flank. Khalatbari could smoke anyone on the team in a speed dash.
              AKP Parti, Turkiye - Haj Bernie Sandersoglu

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                #8
                I read on a site,analysing the game between Chelsea and Barcelona......saying,The Chelsea's strategies were based on the knowledge that Barcelona,was going the keep the ball during the most of the game..and they would have the so called " Time of possession "....so, they had to choose the counter attacking strategy.....
                It may be just as apparant, when we play South Korea ,when we know, they will have the " Time of possession " on thier side....something Ghotbi tried to do, and failed...but CQ may be better at.

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                  #9
                  Perhaps, in away matches vs formidable opponents ...! Especially if just a point is deemed a respectable & acceptable result..! That counter attacking approach vs Uzbeks was certainly a departure from prior high pressure offensive approaches in earlier round..!
                  It may have been opted for as a surprise factor or due to numerous offensive injuries to TM in the run up to the game & off course due to playing away vs a quality side..! All things considered, I think it was a sensible approach but his team had show way more poise under pressure & control possession much better in MF than they did vs Uzbeks..!! where CQ made the mistake was fiddling too much with the usual starting line ups & moving few others out of their comfort positions ..! But key starter Injuries or dips in form, interrupted training camp also played a role in the semi debacle of his CounterAttacking tactics vs Uzbeks ....!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BacheLot View Post
                    Perhaps, in away matches vs formidable opponents ...! Especially if just a point is deemed a respectable & acceptable result..! That counter attacking approach vs Uzbeks was certainly a departure from prior high pressure offensive approaches in earlier round..!
                    It may have been opted for as a surprise factor or due to numerous offensive injuries to TM in the run up to the game & off course due to playing away vs a quality side..! All things considered, I think it was a sensible approach but his team had show way more poise under pressure & control possession much better in MF than they did vs Uzbeks..!! where CQ made the mistake was fiddling too much with the usual starting line ups & moving few others out of their comfort positions ..! But key starter Injuries or dips in form, interrupted training camp also played a role in the semi debacle of his CounterAttacking tactics vs Uzbeks ....!
                    Good points....
                    I also think CQ " fiddled " too much.....forgeting his Iranian players are not professional enough to comply as easiy....although,one may say,he may not have had much choices considering lack of enough training time.
                    But...the question is ..if TM is getting ready to play similarly against South Korea ?....the team who is going to have the most of the time of possession against us.
                    Last edited by zzgloo; 06-07-2012, 01:54 PM.

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