Is Queiroz failing?

[Hadi]

I know countries go to foreign sources to hire trainers, assistant, coaches, ... even masseurs and psychologists. I say why cant we hire a foreign general football administrator for IFF, either as an advisor or an authority to oversee all matters concerning running the sports of football with the ultimate aim of strengthening the national teams (all ages), programming, league, ... on a MACRO level? of if the entire football structure of a nation is too much and too wide, why not a general authority overseeing all national teams? this is playing to CQ's strengths and our lacks.

if CQ could be this person, then we wont expect the MICRO part of conducting a team for a football match. let that be run by a coach whose responsibilities are limited to running one team only: TM

Foreign general football administrator in IFF? really?
dude, you think any governmental organization in Iran or any government employee actually cares about his job in enough to actually think about all these? any IFF head or any governmental head in Iran:

1-He has connection or is related to a minister, parliament member, political personality.
2-He knows nothing about anything, let alone football
3-He must put up a conservative and religious appearance and ensure his gang of friends and allies work under him
3-He tries to make as much money as possible, and abuse his power as much as he can in order to get higher in IR's system
4-To hell with sports and football and IFF and future etc

bro, the country is in ruins. Corruption, inequality, mismanagement, poverty and threat of war have gripped the country and its being destroyed.

[KeonKish]

This is my analysis.
Queiroz is applying things which SHOULD work, but unfortunately DON'T.
For instance. Playing hajsafi as LW SHOULD have worked. Playing Heydari SHOULD have worked. But he could never anticipate that our only center forward was not making any hustle whatsoever to get any of the crosses.
queiroz's tactics are based off books and proven things. The problem is Iran is an abstract situation.
So far he has not failed.
He hasn't been spectacular.
But we have yet to see the win/fail.
In my honest opinion it is very hard even for european teams to win at home when the opposing team plays 9 defenders.
For instance, England played horrible compared to france but was able to tie with them because none of the shots or crosses would make it in between 9 defenders.
But really, we can't ask such a question so early on.

[Doctor DOOM]

This is my analysis.
Queiroz is applying things which SHOULD work, but unfortunately DON'T.
For instance. Playing hajsafi as LW SHOULD have worked. Playing Heydari SHOULD have worked.



But he could never anticipate that our only center forward was not making any hustle whatsoever to get any of the crosses.

queiroz's tactics are based off books and proven things. The problem is Iran is an abstract situation.
So far he has not failed.
He hasn't been spectacular.
But we have yet to see the win/fail.
In my honest opinion it is very hard even for european teams to win at home when the opposing team plays 9 defenders.

answers to
1- RED section:
the problem is even on paper this wouldnt have worked. so your assumption is not correct.
since he'd opted (ever so wrongly) for 4-2-3-1, then one must make sure we choose the 3 behind the single forward correctly and depending on the demands of the game.
I am sure we all agree the demands of this game was to get the 3 points, which means WIN, which means we score more goals than the opponent. which means you provide options (players) to get these goals aside from your single forward.
if france plays bezema alone up front, they have two goal scoring wingers who would chip in if he fails. if Gomez is played as a single CF and doesnt score goals, germany has muller and podolski who would easily chip in for goals. if van persie is played as single CF, the duth have roben or kuyt or ... to get the goals.
now does anyone here think heidari and hajsafi score goals regularly and can be relied on in case ansarifard flops (which is becoming routine at TM)?
anyone?


2- the blue section:
what's there to "anticipate", bro? CQ has been in iran for a year now. and more importantly, he has seen ansarifard against the very same qatar flop massively in each game. (in qatar alone this kid missed 3 100% sitters). so what's there to anticipate or not? as a coach he shd have known each player's characteristics and weaknesses by now. how long does he need? a decade?

besides, lets say he thought ansarifard has turned a new leaf and has somehow become CF material. was CQ sleeping during the first 30 minute/ or first half? did he forget to bring his glasses to see how poorly ballerina was playing?
why didnt he change him? why keep the invisible kid on for 90 minutes? what does that say about his coaching ability and game reading?

sometimes I wish he had brought (or even started with) rezaei in instead of ansarifard. coz when your team has two SHORT forwards (khalatbari and rezaei) then your single tactic will not be crossing into the box. at least you'd be FORCED to play the ball on the ground to feed these shorties.


3- the green part:
yes, we see teams park the bus everywhere.
but that doesnt give you the excuse of not attempting DIFFERENT routes to nullify that.
that doesnt give you the excuse of repeatedly crossing aimlessly and uselessly, for 94 minutes with zero results.
the very same european teams when encountering parked buses, they'd try different methods like shooting or ground-game or stretching the defense as wide as possible or ... . yes, they may not always get the goals. but at least they would have tried different things.
our problem is we didnt even TRY something different. a direct reflection of CQ's coaching ability.


some ppl are great assistant coaches, but not great head coaches. and vice versa. I'm sure fergie wouldnt have done as brilliantly if he was the assistant to CQ at man-u
we must accept this

[maij]

I know countries go to foreign sources to hire trainers, assistant, coaches, ... even masseurs and psychologists. I say why cant we hire a foreign general football administrator for IFF, either as an advisor or an authority to oversee all matters concerning running the sports of football with the ultimate aim of strengthening the national teams (all ages), programming, league, ... on a MACRO level? of if the entire football structure of a nation is too much and too wide, why not a general authority overseeing all national teams? this is playing to CQ's strengths and our lacks.

if CQ could be this person, then we wont expect the MICRO part of conducting a team for a football match. let that be run by a coach whose responsibilities are limited to running one team only: TM

I know that this is a good idea , but in reality I doubt that it is will work in Iran , the exception is if IFF appoints an expatriate Iranian or from Iranian ancestry who understands the language and the culture.

There are far too much poor management and quality culture for a professional administrator to survive in Iran's corrupted football. The candidate for this job will be facing an uphill battle with "Chaploosi" culture , egos , lies , cover-ups , ever changing and inaccurate information , interferences ...and the list is long. The problems are not isolated ones and wide spread. Of course , it is NOT an impossible , but a foreign Professional administrator must have the patience of Prophet "Ayoub" and one hell of a "poost kloft" guy to survive the battle...

As far as I know , UAE , Qatar and Bahrain have employed foreigners in their Football federations as you suggested. In fact the administrator in Bahrain FA is PhD holder.

[maij]

Now that the dust has settled (almost..!) , the match against Qatar or the tactics or the approach used by Queiroz is still puzzling to me.

Regardless to what we think of the current CQ status and form , he is an experienced and smart coach. Why would he be using a defensive line up with 6 defenders and added to this , 2 defensive midfield players in front of 100,000 fans in Azadi and against Qatar??

Was there a mind game battle between him an Autouri ?
Was there a secret plan that Queroz was employing that did not materialize?
Is there a confidence crises in the team between him and the players?

[Kavian]

I think we need to be very realistic when we talk about success or failure as it relates to our football team coach.

Regardless of who is the coach, we are missing some very major ingredients for success at the moment given the state of our country and its so called professional football infrastrucutre. So, any build up of expectation that a coach single handedly can bring in success is utterly wishful and unrealistic. There is no magical formula as we all know and CQ or coaches at his level or higher can only do what the current capabilities permit. The current capabilities, pushed to the limit can perhaps get us qualified for the WC, but that is as far as success can go for now!

I also think that bringing a very expensive foreign coach is a waste of money. It is like buying a lamburgini and driving it on dirt roads!!! The guy who coaches Sepahan would have probably been able to acheive the same thing as CQ. My opinion!!

[Hadi]

I know one thing and I am sure of it.

CQ is more than Iran and Iran's football deserve.

Even if he is a lousy coach, he can do one thing that no other Iranian coach can do:

He has the respect of Iranian coaches and the press, the love of the fans and unbiased support of all players.
Any other Iranian coach will have lovers and haters, controversy and Hashiyeh, and bias toward players, clubs, coaches and officials.
A reputable foreign coach however brings respect and unity with himself (Whether Iranians are KHAREJI PARAST or whatever, that's another issue)

All this however, can go away with a string of bad results. He will lose the respect, critics will come out and voices will become louder.

[maij]

The question here is :Is Queiroz failing ?
it is not about politics , it is not about religion , it is not about Iranian unfaltering Infatuation and fixation with anything Khareji: it is not about facilities , Kafashian or IFF , it is not about anything but Carlos Queiroz.

It is rather silly , to think that one man can change the fortune of a nation in anything , let alone football. So . let us focus the subject on a man that has been recruited with a an objective to take Iran to the FIFA World Cup 2014 in Brazil. He needs to deliver and if there are shortcomings or hurdles , then then it has to be addressed as early as possible. Going round and round bringing on excuses or justifications will never serve us nor will it answer this specific question.

It is really not very difficult nor very clever , to come up with excuses and justifications for failures.

If there are problems . it has to be tackled as early as yesterday , because tomorrow might be too late for Team Melli.....

Remember our last World Cup with Ali Daei and then Ghotbi? Team Melli was bleeding points and we all sat fat , dumb and happy thinking that it will be all hanky dory comes the day of the reckoning. We all had faith in the Team and supported Daei and his men............. the rest is history.

let us not repeat the same mistake again.

[Mansoor]

^ Merci Agha Majid. Well explained. The question is: "IS Queiroz failING?" The question is not "DID Queiroz failED?" or "WHY Queiroz failing?". Simply put do you see he is failing (due to whatever reason) or not.

When we put the question in present sentence, it can also be implied as "is he in process of failing" by not accomplishing certain tasks and targets. That was my take on the first article.

Unlike what Martin brought up in his take, I very much believe those two tasks are embedded in his goal, i.e. he must get players to reach their ceiling and beyound and he must bring in youth to replace the "very" old line up we are used to.

That is what we expected from "great coach" and "great coaching" or else, let's settle for cheaper "available options", or yet let's just quit since there is no hope for better management and infrastructure as we have seen and complained for many years.

It is my firm believe that a "great coaching" (not necessarily great coach) can help our current pool of talented players (yes we have a very talented pool) reach their ceiling and do even better than before.

A few random thoughts for example?

- Slap Ansarifard by not even inviting him for a match, let him "fight" when he gets a chance the next time. Gets bruises and slaps, and gets slapped a few times "fighting" for the ball like Ghazi does. Let him man up for the game as a target striker with that size .... Else send him home one more time .... and repeat till he man up ...

- Invite players like Mosalman, Sadeghian, Aliasgari, Rahmani, Kaveh Rezaei, Afshin and put them one at a time in line up with the rest of starters in friendly matches. Lots of friendly matches even if with "villages of Kenya" or "hard to find island in some ocean's B team". Does NOT matter. Get them to play with the starters in a match, not just a mini camp, and bring in the new blood to boost the energy level of this team ...

Obviously random thoughts and not necessarily solutions. But "great coaches" should find a way to implement "great coaching" and that distinguishes them from "other options". Or else, we don't need to cry about hiring one anymore.

I must also end by stating that it is very critical for IFF to schedule the club games in a way to keep the players' leg fresh (or not too tired) for the national team, or else not the "greatest coaches" of all time can cure that problem .... I would not blame Queiroz a bit if they don't fix this huge problem eventhough he would still be considered "failed"...

[Doctor DOOM]

^ mansoor jan, if you are looking for a precise answer to "failing" (and not "failed" or "will fail" or ...), then by the parameters you have set for your question, we cant say whether he is failing or not at this stage.
for all you know we may get the required 10-11 points from the remaining 6 games (mathematically very much possible and even probable). so in that case he hasnt failed in his target/promise of qualifying for the WC

but leaving maths and what's on paper aside, and keeping the QUALITY of our performances as the main basis of our calculations, then even that 10-11 points are not guaranteed!!
coz we all know if we continue to play like the past 2 games, show no visible improvement in tactics and teamwork, show impotency in scoring goals, show incapacity to change the rhythm of a game especially DURING a game, if we insist on this idiotic ultra-defensive attitude ... we may lose more points (we have to make 3 trips to lebanon, qatar and korea. and two uzbek & korea home games which arent gonna be easy either. so the ONLY sure-fire 3 points we can count on is the one game in azadi against lebanon) that eventually may hurt us.

so is he fail-ING?
it could either way. DEPENDING ON OUR UPCOMING PERFORMANCES
he has 3 months to get things right. but then again, he's had one year and his impact on the team for this period hasnt been worthy of mention.
so make what you will of it.



ok, that's addressing the "reaching of WC" matter that CQ's hardcore supporters keep insisting on and bring up as excuse.
but I am sure there are others who hoped for an improvement in the "quality" of the team also.

in this, I think I can safely say he HAS INDEED FAILED. but I hope he somehow reverses things in the near future
one year on and we still play ali-asghari, bezan ziresh football that have regressed with this moronic defensive attitude that hasnt served us in any game.
our players seem as clueless as always, just like pre-CQ
our team doesnt show any sign of quality advancement, innovation, ... etc
and we have become too scared (or at least PLAY like we're scared) of just about anyone and any team, no matter how weak they are
so in this matter, he has failed.


Now, we have the third issue of his promise of rejuvenating the team and making it a younger team.
I think so far I havent seen much from him to convince me he has kept his word.
overlooking young stars with ample talent and skills like Omid ebrahimi, payam sadeghiyan, mosalman, ... (even if afshin and a few others were injured) for the likes of maziyar zareh, or even insisting on presence of ando and even nekounam even when they under-perform terribly tells me he doesnt believe in our youth!
and that is NOT the fault of our youth. they need to be trusted and believed in to gain confidence.
if they see they're overlooked time and again just to make way for under-performing "NAMES" (yes 'names'. coz what we;ve seen from many of our stars so far has been more their fame and name rather than quality displays), then how will they gain this self confidence and experience?
so where is this rejuvenation, Mr. CQ?
another fail .... so far. I hope he reverses things again



so his year end marks-card (imo) reads like:
subject: Youth introduction and rejuvenation of TM -- 9 out of 20 ( FAIL )
subject: Quality of team and performances ---------- 6 out of 20 ( FAIL )
subject: Reaching the WC2014 ----------------------- 10 out of 20 (just passes ... so far) (thanks ONLY to a lucky goal in a game we deserved to lose)

I hope I addressed your query

[Doctor DOOM]

Remember our last World Cup with Ali Daei and then Ghotbi? Team Melli was bleeding points and we all sat fat , dumb and happy thinking that it will be all hanky dory comes the day of the reckoning. We all had faith in the Team and supported Daei and his men............. the rest is history.

let us not repeat the same mistake again.

seeing our idiotic schedule set by the even more idiotic AFC (particularly the last 3 games), I think we're going to be in the same situation as last time ... UNLESS WE GATHER POINTS EARLY IN THE CAMPAIGN.
this is THE ONLY way to avoid that situation of having to go to korea and needing only a win.
that's why justifying the drop of these 2 points is CRIMINAL and nothing less. even if the person was madrid or portugal or brazil or barca or ... coach

[St_Mark]

^ mansoor jan, if you are looking for a precise answer to "failing" (and not "failed" or "will fail" or ...), then by the parameters you have set for your question, we cant say whether he is failing or not at this stage.
for all you know we may get the required 10-11 points from the remaining 6 games (mathematically very much possible and even probable). so in that case he hasnt failed in his target/promise of qualifying for the WC

but leaving maths and what's on paper aside, and keeping the QUALITY of our performances as the main basis of our calculations, then even that 10-11 points are not guaranteed!!

....

I agree with that part , and Simply with limited data it's impossible to draw trend for sure

If there is a set and define goal , then at any given time in process of achieving that one may be able to determined moving toward or away from the set goal as failing or not .
Example:
If goal is to win max home points , then we have so far failed and may fail further but simply it's impossible to forecast base on limited games.

Few months ago hardly anyone question Queiroz 's chances of success but mere fact that now there is even " question about failing " is an indication of a failing of sort.



"

falling slowly

games that never amount
to more than they're meant
will play themselves out

take this sinking boat
and point it home
we've still got time
raise your hopeful voice
you had the choice
you've made it now

"

[maij]

The more I watch the Euro 2012 the more I get depressed with Team Melli's performances so far, pioneered by Mr. Queiroz.

Look at Ukraine...not exactly the top team in Europe , in fact it made a quick exit from the competition at home when they lost 1-0 to England. In my books , they were the better team and were robbed by those stupid men in yellow so-called referees. Anyway before I get all excited and drift from the subject. Ukraine had so much variety in their attacks , it was a fantastic education for Mr. Queiroz. He should sit and watch this team's match vs. England and learn. Their attacking solutions were shooting from distance , crossing , lobbing the ball , penetrating from the center , dribbling...you name it. they tried it.

Unlike our beloved team which crossed the ball for 94 minutes and out of the 100 or so crosses , only 2 reached its target !!! ( OK...I am exaggerating here !)

we are not asking Team Melli to perform like Spain or Germany, just play decent game and win , even 1-0, Mr. Queiroz.

[St_Mark]

The more I watch the Euro 2012 the more I get depressed with Team Melli's performances so far, pioneered by Mr. Queiroz.

Look at Ukraine...not exactly the top team in Europe , in fact it made a quick exit from the competition at home when they lost 1-0 to England. In my books , they were the better team and were robbed by those stupid men in yellow so-called referees. Anyway before I get all excited and drift from the subject. Ukraine had so much variety in their attacks , it was a fantastic education for Mr. Queiroz. He should sit and watch this team's match vs. England and learn. Their attacking solutions were shooting from distance , crossing , lobbing the ball , penetrating from the center , dribbling...you name it. they tried it.

Unlike our beloved team which crossed the ball for 94 minutes and out of the 100 or so crosses , only 2 reached its target !!! ( OK...I am exaggerating here !)

we are not asking Team Melli to perform like Spain or Germany, just play decent game and win , even 1-0, Mr. Queiroz.

Watching Euro 2012 and last few games of TM is as different between joy and pain.
Hopefully we will get our chance of joy too.

This is from Kafashian recent interview. It seems even he has his doubt.
Hopefully there is a report about this TM Committee meeting. Queiroz is not only TM Coach/Manager but member of TM committee .

كفاشيان درباره عملكرد تيم ملي فوتبال در بازي با قطر و اينكه آيا گزارشي را در اين رابطه از كارلوس كي روش خواسته ايد؟ اظهار كرد:

به نظرم اگر تيم ملي ما بخواهد به جام جهاني صعود كند بايد بهتر و قوي تر از اين ها عمل كند و اگر بخواهد اينجوري بازي كند در ادامه راه با مشكل مواجه خواهيم شد. قطعا كي روش بايد درباره عملكرد تيم ملي مقابل قطر به كميته فني و توسعه ما كه در يكي دو روز آينده رييس جديدش را معرفي مي كنيم
گزارش دهد.

[maij]

Watching Euro 2012 and last few games of TM is as different between joy and pain.
Hopefully we will get our chance of joy too.

This is from Kafashian recent interview. It seems even he has his doubt.
Hopefully there is a report about this TM Committee meeting. Queiroz is not only TM Coach/Manager but member of TM committee .

Wow.... Now this is something unique. When the all smiling harmless Kafashian is having his doubts, then be rest assured that we are approaching the critical phase. Frankly speaking , it really does not require acute intelligence or superior knowledge of football to figure out that Team Melli is treading on thin ice.

I rest my case.