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    #61
    تهران IranSport.Net - سرمربی تیم فوتبال استقلال تهران گفت: برخی مدیران ورزشی، از جنس ورزش نیستند و هدفشان تضعیف فوتبال کشور و کاهش تماشاگران این رشته است. ˈامیر قلعه نوییˈ (یکشنبه) پس از دیدار تیم های فوتبال استقلال تهران و فولاد مبارکه سپاهان اصفهان در ورزشگاه فولاد شهر اصفهان تاکید کرد: اهالی ورزش فوتبال نباید اجازه دهند این افراد به هدف خود برسند. وی به کنار گذاشتن ˈمحمد دادکانˈ بازیکن سابق تیم فوتبال پرسپولیس و رییس اسبق فدراسیون فوتبال و همچنین ˈداریوش مصطفویˈ رییس اسبق فدراسیون فوتبال اشاره و اظهار کرد: در کجای دنیا دیده اید که بزرگان فوتبال را خانه نشین کنند

    سرمربی تیم فوتبال استقلال تهران به ورود افراد غیرفوتبالی در ورزش کشور اشاره کرد و گفت: افراد غیرفوتبالی نباید به فوتبال بیایند زیرا این ها به دنبال شهرت هستند و دنبال محبوبیت نیستند.

    قلعه نویی، ورود افراد غیرفوتبالی و انتخاب اشتباه مربیان تیم ملی را دو عامل مهم تاثیرگذار در فوتبال کشور بیان کرد

    وی در مورد نتایج تیم ملی فوتبال و اظهارات برخی از کارشناسان فوتبال کشور گفت: برخی از کارشناسان فوتبال، موفقیت مربیان ایران را برنمی تابند اما خارجی ها هر بلایی سر فوتبال ایران بیاورند، از مربیان خارجی حمایت می کنند

    به گفته وی، برخی قصد دارند ˈعلی داییˈ که عنوان اسطوره فوتبال ایران است و می تواند رییس کنفدراسیون فوتبال آسیا نیز شود را از تیم ملی فوتبال ایران دور کنند

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    ISN - سرمربی تیم فوتبال پرسپولیس تهران گفت: تعطیلات مکرر و طولانی لیگ برتر به همه ضربه می زند، حتی تیم ملی فوتبال ایران .وی خاطرنشان کرد: باید درباره لیگ حرفی بزنم اما نمی خواهم کسی دلخور شود. ما خیلی کم بازی می کنیم. درحالی که در هر ماه حداقل باید پنج بازی داشته باشیم در عمل فقط در یک ماه این اتفاق افتاد. یکی از ضعف های لیگ ایران این است که ما نمی دانیم چه زمانی مسابقه داریم و به این ترتیب نمی توانیم برای آینده خودمان برنامه ریزی کنیم.سرمربی پرسپولیس ادامه داد: متاسفانه در تعطیلات بازیکنان تیم ما شرایط ایده آل خود را از دست داده اند. کسانی که برای فوتبال ایران برنامه ریزی می کنند باید به تقویم درست نگاه کنند تا فوتبال ایران و تیم ملی درست شود

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      #62
      Originally posted by Paradigm View Post
      The number 1 problem with the Iranian football in the last two years, has been the lack of competitive friendly matches, period.
      Not by a mile. I don't think that has anything to do with the current pathetic state of Team Melli.

      Look at North Korea when they qualified for the World Cup 2010 and tell me how many competitive friendly matches they had !



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        #63
        Originally posted by Paradigm View Post
        تهران IranSport.Net - سرمربی تیم فوتبال استقلال تهران گفت: برخی مدیران ورزشی، از جنس ورزش نیستند و هدفشان تضعیف فوتبال کشور و کاهش تماشاگران این رشته است. ˈامیر قلعه نوییˈ (یکشنبه) پس از دیدار تیم های فوتبال استقلال تهران و فولاد مبارکه سپاهان اصفهان در ورزشگاه فولاد شهر اصفهان تاکید کرد: اهالی ورزش فوتبال نباید اجازه دهند این افراد به هدف خود برسند. وی به کنار گذاشتن ˈمحمد دادکانˈ بازیکن سابق تیم فوتبال پرسپولیس و رییس اسبق فدراسیون فوتبال و همچنین ˈداریوش مصطفویˈ رییس اسبق فدراسیون فوتبال اشاره و اظهار کرد: در کجای دنیا دیده اید که بزرگان فوتبال را خانه نشین کنند

        سرمربی تیم فوتبال استقلال تهران به ورود افراد غیرفوتبالی در ورزش کشور اشاره کرد و گفت: افراد غیرفوتبالی نباید به فوتبال بیایند زیرا این ها به دنبال شهرت هستند و دنبال محبوبیت نیستند.

        قلعه نویی، ورود افراد غیرفوتبالی و انتخاب اشتباه مربیان تیم ملی را دو عامل مهم تاثیرگذار در فوتبال کشور بیان کرد

        وی در مورد نتایج تیم ملی فوتبال و اظهارات برخی از کارشناسان فوتبال کشور گفت: برخی از کارشناسان فوتبال، موفقیت مربیان ایران را برنمی تابند اما خارجی ها هر بلایی سر فوتبال ایران بیاورند، از مربیان خارجی حمایت می کنند

        به گفته وی، برخی قصد دارند ˈعلی داییˈ که عنوان اسطوره فوتبال ایران است و می تواند رییس کنفدراسیون فوتبال آسیا نیز شود را از تیم ملی فوتبال ایران دور کنند

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        ISN - سرمربی تیم فوتبال پرسپولیس تهران گفت: تعطیلات مکرر و طولانی لیگ برتر به همه ضربه می زند، حتی تیم ملی فوتبال ایران .وی خاطرنشان کرد: باید درباره لیگ حرفی بزنم اما نمی خواهم کسی دلخور شود. ما خیلی کم بازی می کنیم. درحالی که در هر ماه حداقل باید پنج بازی داشته باشیم در عمل فقط در یک ماه این اتفاق افتاد. یکی از ضعف های لیگ ایران این است که ما نمی دانیم چه زمانی مسابقه داریم و به این ترتیب نمی توانیم برای آینده خودمان برنامه ریزی کنیم.سرمربی پرسپولیس ادامه داد: متاسفانه در تعطیلات بازیکنان تیم ما شرایط ایده آل خود را از دست داده اند. کسانی که برای فوتبال ایران برنامه ریزی می کنند باید به تقویم درست نگاه کنند تا فوتبال ایران و تیم ملی درست شود

        Amir Ghalenoei is spot on.

        I am not suggesting that every ex-player should be given a position in football administration , but organized and professional football requires people who have been involved and experienced in football or spent their careers dealing with it at some capacity. All grin all smile poost kloft like Kaffashian , just don't cut it.



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          #64
          Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View Post
          ^ and it's quite amazing how you think only I think team melli's performances have been sub par. It would really help if you actually looked around and read a few things (not fans only, but other football personalities, experts, and coaches, former TM players, ... ) about how poor the quality of our games were.
          but then again, what has taught me for the past 10-12 years is that you'd rather "fall in line" with the coach than actually think for yourself or god forbid, doubt one ... even when he is visibly and vividly failing.
          I definitely agree with you . Doc.

          I don't understand people living in denial and frankly I don't care much. To me and anyone who has a vision and tiny amount of intelligence and power of observation, this team Melli under Carlos Queiroz is far from a team that one can brag about. I dare to say that it is worse than Ghotbi's era , a coach that have received a lot of flack when he was appointed. There are enough stats to suggest that it is not too well with Queiroz, despite what the "Queiroz Defense Brigade" will lead the poor masses to believe. I am not talking results either, because the results are quite clear and evident, it is the crappy football that they play (to be fair , there were some exceptions , like the first 15-20 minutes against Uzbekistan).

          It is very true that Carlos Queiroz is not responsible for all the problems of Team Melli, but he is not blameless or faultless either. His performance and delivery is simply well below the money he pockets. He has failed to improve anything in this team and I dare anyone to tell me that he improved the performance of even one single player in the Team Melli.

          It is ironic that Roberto De Matteo, despite winning the Champions League and FA Cup after taking over from Andre Villas-Boas in March of the 2011-12 season, is sacked by Chelsea and despite Chelsea currently being third in the table and still with a chance to make it to the Knock out stages of the Champions League. Yet , the owner is not impressed and the performance falls far from Abramovich expectation. On our side , you have a team that has lost twice in 5 crucial matches, scored 2 goals only and are in precarious position, but the good old "Queiroz Defense Brigade" singing his praise and blaming the poor results on Khamenei and his regime , which interestingly enough, brought the same Queiroz to Iran!!


          For what's it worth, Peyman jan. I enjoy your posts. I believe there is a lot of maturity, intelligence and sharp observation that it associated with your remarks which is second to none in this forum. I might not agree with all what you say, but that is beside the point. All I can say is that you have regularly enriched these forums and definitely deserve a pat on the back. If football, indeed the whole society, is to improve and progress, then we need critiques, scrutiny and questioning. We do not need puppets and robots or people in the class of Abbas Bi-mokh that have been the Achilles heel of Iran in the modern history.



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            #65
            GN adds more, specially notable is the last part of the interview where he says the Iranian youth do not have enough diversions in life and if they take up sports they have to spend a lot of money (probably refers to membership in private training clubs) or choose to go to park in which case they will have different problems. To me it sounds like implicitly saying the kids need more freedom & investment.

            ISN - سرمربی تیم فوتبال استقلال تهران گفت: حمایت علی کفاشیان از کارلوس کی روش، کار پسندیده ای بود اما ای کاش او از علی دایی هم اینچنین حمایت می کرد. ˈامیر قلعه نوییˈ در کنفرانس خبری پیش از دیدار با تیم پیکان تهران گفت: در کنفرانس قبلی من مثل اینکه به بعضی دوستان بر خورده و من به چیزی که احساس کردم گفتم و الان هم روی حرفم هستم. فوتبال جای فوتبالی ها است و قرار نیست به کسی بربخورد.وی ادامه داد: بعضی از این غیر فوتبالی ها مانند جعفری تیم فجر یا رویانیان در پرسپولیس برای تیم های خود زحمت کشیده اند. منظور من این است که هر کسی باید در سر جای خود باشد.سرمربی تیم فوتبال استقلال تهران گفت: فوتبالی که پول های آن را دولت می دهد بهتر است به دست اهل فن باشد و اگر فوتبال دست فوتبالی ها باشد خیلی بیشتر پیشرفت خواهیم کرد.وی تصریح کرد: چرا باید امثال داریوش مصطفوی و محمد دادکان بیرون از فوتبال باشند و افرادی دیگر در این رشته فعالیت کنند.وی در خصوص علی کفاشیان و اعلام موضع او در خصوص کارلوس کی روش نیز اظهار داشت: او به عنوان یک مدیر، کار خود را انجام داده و گناهش چیست. مگر خواسته مردم مربی خارجی نبود او هم این خواسته را برآورده کرده است.قلعه نویی خاطرنشان کرد: کفاشیان با وجود اینکه از جنس ورزش است ایرادهایی دارد اما در این مقطع تمام خواسته های کادر فنی را برآورده کرده و این نکته مثبتی است. حملات به او پس از شکست مقابل ازبکستان اصلا صحیح نبود و مطمئن باشید اگر نتیجه چیز دیگری بود آدم بدی نمی شد.سرمربی تیم فوتبال استقلال تهران در خصوص دیدار با پیکان، گفت: خوشحالم با تیمی بازی می کنم که سرمربی آن به فوتبال هجومی اهمیت می دهد و این بازی را زیباتر خواهد کرد. ویسی یکی از سرمایه های فوتبال ما در امر مربیگری است.وی ادامه داد: از عملکرد بازی تیم خود مقابل تیم سپاهان بسیار راضی هستند و به هر دو تیم تبریک می گویم که چنین فوتبال زیبایی را به نمایش گذاشتند.وی گفت: فوتبال ما هوادارانش به سه هزار نفر رسیده است و این در حالی است که جوانان ما تفریح دیگری هم ندارند اگر بخواهند ورزش کنند که باید پول زیادی را پرداخت کنند و اگر بخواهند به پارک بروند نیز با مشکلات دیگری روبه رو می شوند.قلعه نویی خاطرنشان کرد: بارها خواسته ایم در فوتبال احترام از بین نرود و علیه یکدیگر صحبت نکنیم اما می بینید در بعضی برنامه ها چگونه افراد را مقابل هم قرار می دهند. تنها کسانی که می توانند فوتبال را از این شرایط خارج کنند خود فوتبالی ها هستند. پنجشنبه 2 آذر 1391
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              #66
              thank you majid jan. ma mokhlessim, da'ash

              Originally posted by maij View Post
              It is ironic that Roberto De Matteo, despite winning the Champions League and FA Cup after taking over from Andre Villas-Boas in March of the 2011-12 season, is sacked by Chelsea and despite Chelsea currently being third in the table and still with a chance to make it to the Knock out stages of the Champions League. Yet , the owner is not impressed and the performance falls far from Abramovich expectation. On our side , you have a team that has lost twice in 5 crucial matches, scored 2 goals only and are in precarious position, but the good old "Queiroz Defense Brigade" singing his praise and blaming the poor results on Khamenei and his regime , which interestingly enough, brought the same Queiroz to Iran!!
              you know why? because we behave like little bloody nobody's who dont deserve anything and behave like dirt when we see a foreigner or a famous person. the moment we see a famous person, we dissolve and lose all self respect and self belief!! we behave as if we automatically lose our rights to question or even DOUBT!!!
              as if our eyes are deceiving us and we shd close our eyes and look ONLY at the paper degree or the glitter on the "name" of the person!

              this inferiority complex is key when we WILLINGLY submit ourselves to whatever crap that is dealt to us or handed down by the famous person, without ever bothering to use our own intelligence or ever want to be better.
              it reaches such low levels that we defend mediocrity just because that famous person is the person of authority. I cant ever be that submissive and I know there are a lot of us who cant either. we certainly have the RIGHTS to question why or point at problems.

              because afterall, if and when CQ fails (just like branko), he'll get his money and go his way without looking back. kakesh ham nemigazeh!
              and we're left with a broken football and millions of un-realized dreams deep in depression, and yet another failed campaign!


              we should never stop asking questions. we shd never stop wanting more and improvement. we shd never settle for bloody mediocrity, even if behind it is a famous name.

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                #67
                One tiny difference is that Abramovich goes out and buys whichever top coach he likes. Not to talk about of how much of a wise decision Di Matteo's sacking was in the first place.

                Sometimes I wonder on what planet you live. Our previous coaches were Ghotbi, Daei and Ghalenoei. Chelsea's previous coaches were Villas-Boas, Ancelotti, Hiddink and Mourinho, pretty much the best this planet has to offer.

                In opposite to them we have a unique quality coach at helm now and would be complete nutheads to go back to the low level we are used to, even when things are not going as planned.

                Thankfully Kafashian knows that so it doesn't matter if some fans and dreamers think we would be so much better off otherwise.

                Don't worry, you will have your Pourheydaris back soon enough, now lean back and for once try to be a fan and not a football expert, which none of you is (well, Majeed maybe in terms of statistics).

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View Post
                  thank you majid jan. ma mokhlessim, da'ash



                  you know why? because we behave like little bloody nobody's who dont deserve anything and behave like dirt when we see a foreigner or a famous person. the moment we see a famous person, we dissolve and lose all self respect and self belief!! we behave as if we automatically lose our rights to question or even DOUBT!!!
                  as if our eyes are deceiving us and we shd close our eyes and look ONLY at the paper degree or the glitter on the "name" of the person!

                  this inferiority complex is key when we WILLINGLY submit ourselves to whatever crap that is dealt to us or handed down by the famous person, without ever bothering to use our own intelligence or ever want to be better.
                  it reaches such low levels that we defend mediocrity just because that famous person is the person of authority. I cant ever be that submissive and I know there are a lot of us who cant either. we certainly have the RIGHTS to question why or point at problems.

                  because afterall, if and when CQ fails (just like branko), he'll get his money and go his way without looking back. kakesh ham nemigazeh!
                  and we're left with a broken football and millions of un-realized dreams deep in depression, and yet another failed campaign!


                  we should never stop asking questions. we shd never stop wanting more and improvement. we shd never settle for bloody mediocrity, even if behind it is a famous name.
                  Poetry in motion , Doc.

                  This is the good old inferiority complex that has marred many Iranians as long as I remember. As long as we lack confidence in self-ability, lack trust in our own compatriots, distrust and scorn the works and the achievements of our own countrymen, then we will always be held at ransom by the foreigners.

                  The heart of the matter is that we, as fans, should demand the highest possible standards from our team and the coaches and do not accept ridicule. If some are satisfied with this ludicrous standard, then that is what they really deserve, ridicule.



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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Martin-Reza View Post
                    In opposite to them we have a unique quality coach at helm now and would be complete nutheads to go back to the low level we are used to, even when things are not going as planned.


                    Thankfully Kafashian knows that so it doesn't matter if some fans and dreamers think we would be so much better off otherwise.
                    if what he does is not working for us and the team hasnt improved, then no matter how big a name or how unique or how famous or how whatever, it is better to part ways (or at least force him to grow a pair of balls and change from his overly cautious tactics)

                    .... that is unless you think the team HAS improved and there is nothing wrong with what's hes' done so far. in which case we need not even bother discuss matters as we seem to live in different dimensions


                    the fact that you actually trust a moron like kafashian says a lot, btw

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                      #70
                      A little article to make you feel better:

                      Goal-shy Iran seek to build momentum (Thursday, 22 November 2012)

                      FIFA - In a sense, one scenario Iran had not prepared for in their planning for 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil™ qualification was a home defeat.

                      Carlos Queiroz's side, after all, boast a proud home record at the legendary Azadi Stadium which had seen them undefeated in 15 matches across three years, with the last defeat coming in March 2009 when they were edged out 2-1 by Saudi Arabia during South Africa 2010 qualifying.

                      Thus last week’s solitary-goal defeat against Uzbekistan not only brought an abrupt end to that record, but also deprived them of the chance to move top of the section. While the Uzbeks were catapulted to the summit of Group A, Iran slipped to third, trailing behind Korea Republic on goal difference, with only three matches left.

                      Taking solace in history

                      On the surface, Team Melli were punished by their inability to provide a killer punch in front of goal. Although they dominated large periods of the home match against the Uzbeks, it was the visitors who grabbed the match-winner with Ulugbek Bakaev firing home off Server Djeparov's free-kick.

                      Queiroz's outfit had finished the previous round as the biggest scorers with 17 goals scored across six outings. Yet, the Iranians are now, alongside Lebanon, the most goal-shy of the ten remaining Asian teams having scored just twice in their five matches during the ongoing final round.

                      While the fans are still bemoaning last week’s defeat, it is the lingering goalscoring problems that are causing the most concern. Having long dazzled the continent with a knack of constantly finding the back of the net, Iran now see their campaign in jeopardy due to their profligacy in front of goal.

                      On the road to France 1998, the team emerged the group's top scorers with 13 goals - 5 more than top-finishers Saudi Arabia. They racked up seven goals in the final round for Germany 2006 which sealed their early qualification, and even in their failed campaign for South Africa 2010 Iran were the group's second best scorers with 8 goals.

                      As a country which has produced global goal-king Ali Daei, Iran have never been short of striking talents. Aside from Sepahan marksman Mohammad Khalatbari, notable amongst Queiroz's attacking options is 22-year-old Karim Ansarifard who finished the last Iranian season as top-scorer with 21 goals, while both Fulham new acquisition Ashkan Dejagah and Belgian-based Reza Ghoochannejhad also enhance the attack.

                      Neither are they lacking in creativity, with captain Javad Nekonam pulling the strings in midfield, a fact which even Uzbekistan Mirdjalal Kasimov coach acknowledged. "Iran created many good chances but they failed to break our deadlock," he said. "And that is exactly what happened to us in the first leg."

                      Iran assistant coach Antonio Simoes, overseeing the game for the suspended Queiroz, though, shed light on where the team must improve. He said: "We played well, but the winning spark never lit for us and the players lacked support from each other in different moments."

                      Team Melli seek to rebound

                      While the defeat was a rude awakening for Team Melli, Queiroz received unwavering support from Iranian FA boss Ali Kafashian. "Queiroz is a good coach and he will continue as Iran coach," the latter was quoted as speaking to local press recently. "He has a good knowledge of Iran's football."

                      Aside from the faith offered by his pay-masters, the Portuguese coach has over six months to prepare for their next crucial match in Qatar on 4 June next year. In order to test more new faces, he announced a young squad for next month's West Asian Football Federation (WAFF) Championship in Kuwait. Meanwhile, he continues to scour Europe for more overseas-based recruitments with Eintracht Braunschweig goalkeeper Daniel Davari recently on his radar.

                      "Our duty is to fully concentrate on the next match," said the 59-year-old. "We respect the other teams, but we will make our best effort to win."
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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View Post
                        if what he does is not working for us and the team hasnt improved, then no matter how big a name or how unique or how famous or how whatever, it is better to part ways (or at least force him to grow a pair of balls and change from his overly cautious tactics)

                        .... that is unless you think the team HAS improved and there is nothing wrong with what's hes' done so far. in which case we need not even bother discuss matters as we seem to live in different dimensions


                        the fact that you actually trust a moron like kafashian says a lot, btw
                        No, we won't part because the dentist from Texas, who lacks basic knowledge about football tactics anyways, doesn't see improvement and doesn't think it's working for us.

                        We have a functioning team, also the Uzbekistan match showed we have a stable defense and create enough chances upfront. That you can still lose such a game is beyond coaching and should not trigger an executive to panic and change an internationally reputated coach with some domestic one noone in the world would want to have.

                        And this "moron" helming IFF knows more about football and management than all of the wannabes around here ever will.

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                          #72
                          ^ lol. really? you're going to use the uzbekistan game as proof of your "stable defense"?
                          and you claim it is "me" who doesnt know football? YOU?
                          you bring in a game that the opponent clearly didnt have any plans of attacking our team in play and their sole reliance was on set pieces. and surprise surprise ... they bloody scored on a set piece.

                          now, to explain the simple matter of "why the relied on set pieces" for those who may only know how to spell "football" is because they KNEW our weakness and defensive holes. hell, a snooker fan would know about our weaknesses if they watch only 4-5 games of TM ... let alone opponent coaches.

                          this weakness has been revealed to all, even when CQ/IFF/X/Y (whoever you want) have tried to keep as a secret by picking a bundle of shitty, pisspoor nobody teams as our opponents (mozambique, madagascar, ...) and of course, thankfully even the official opponents in earlier rounds are traditionally crappy ones anyway (maldives, indonesia, ... ).
                          in fact the ONLY decent opponents we've had under CQ were uzbeks and skorea (which he couldnt run away from since we were grouped with them) and in uzbek's first game we were pulverized and our defense looked like a bunch of school kids that the ref, lady luck, goal posts and some fantastically desperate goalkeeping from rahmati saved our arses. and the game against korea in azadi also wasnt very different with the goal posts and luck and again some desperate shots saving from rahmati somehow kept our goal empty.

                          in summation, while we've had 90% of our opponents as weak and highly ineffectual teams, our defense has still shown its weaknesses.

                          so I really dont know what you're talking about.
                          you see, yours is more rhetoric and general remarks (mostly without any basis) like "internationally reputated coach", "trigger an executive to panic", ""moron" helming IFF knows more about football and management", .... etc when the same "int'l coach" has shown unsuitable for our team and needs, when you say criticism of nearly two years of low quality performances as "panic" (God, I'd love to know what time frames you're working with. centuries?) or suddenly supporting an idiot who has consistently proven he is by far the absolute worst IFF head we've ever had (and we've had quite a few idiotic buggers) just because what he says supports your obedient views!

                          Mine is clear examples and references to real events and instances. and by jove, no matter how much you want to deny, the quality we've seen from TM in the past 2 years leaves A LOT to be desired even if we'd had a low grade vatani coach, let alone an expensive, mouth-filling famous, "international" coach.


                          and mind you, this is about the "defense", which seems to be the area that CQ has had the most impact on. God help CQ and his obedient lot if we start talking about our offensive tactics and performances!!

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Martin-Reza View Post
                            One tiny difference is that Abramovich goes out and buys whichever top coach he likes. Not to talk about of how much of a wise decision Di Matteo's sacking was in the first place.

                            Sometimes I wonder on what planet you live. Our previous coaches were Ghotbi, Daei and Ghalenoei. Chelsea's previous coaches were Villas-Boas, Ancelotti, Hiddink and Mourinho, pretty much the best this planet has to offer.

                            In opposite to them we have a unique quality coach at helm now and would be complete nutheads to go back to the low level we are used to, even when things are not going as planned.

                            Thankfully Kafashian knows that so it doesn't matter if some fans and dreamers think we would be so much better off otherwise.

                            Don't worry, you will have your Pourheydaris back soon enough, now lean back and for once try to be a fan and not a football expert, which none of you is (well, Majeed maybe in terms of statistics).

                            If your team does not deliver with the likes of Carlos Queiroz (who is by no means anything near Villas-Boas, Ancelotti, Hiddink and Mourinho class , but nevertheless , a pretty respectable coach with a good CV ) , what is the wise idea in recruiting him or people like him while paying 10 times more than your pourhaidary , Daei and Ghalenoei , who will deliver the same results if not better?

                            Just look at the forum and focus a bit and see how many of these people or so-called fans , blame a whole nation for the team's poor result , while indemnifying the great Carlos !!!!

                            Did you know that the IFF did NOT have enough cash , and most definitely not in hard currency to pay your dear Carlos Queiroz and the guy has still something like a year left on his contract? Which planet you are living on , mate? That stupid Kaffashian does not have money to pay the guy , and you are singing his praises!!!
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                              #74
                              Originally posted by maij View Post
                              Did you know that the IFF did NOT have enough cash , and most definitely not in hard currency to pay your dear Carlos Queiroz and the guy has still something like a year left on his contract? Which planet you are living on , mate? That stupid Kaffashian does not have money to pay the guy , and you are singing his praises!!!
                              I've heard such stories ever since he came. Either it's bullshit, or the fact CQ's still here in a (from European view) not respected job without (regular) payment tells us a lot about his character.

                              Originally posted by maij View Post
                              If your team does not deliver with the likes of Carlos Queiroz (who is by no means anything near Villas-Boas, Ancelotti, Hiddink and Mourinho class , but nevertheless , a pretty respectable coach with a good CV ) , what is the wise idea in recruiting him or people like him while paying 10 times more than your pourhaidary , Daei and Ghalenoei , who will deliver the same results if not better?
                              Agreed - if it was June or November 2013 and we would have failed. We didn't, we're just in a more challenging situation than we wished for. One of the major advantages of having CQ, besides football knowledge and a professional approach to the whole campaign, is now about to pay off - his name. Any Iranian coach would have been fired in this situation - and I don't think it would have been the correct thing.

                              All over the planet coaches are usually fired much too early, and one of the the few advantages we have left in comparison to our neighbours is more continuity, and CQ's name guarantees that and circumstances which allow him to continue at the moment.

                              An Iranian coach, even a legend like Daei four years ago, would lose all public, media and player support too quickly and become the scapegoat. Btw, I think with Daei at helm we would have had higher chances to win in Pyongyang back then than with Ghotbi - not because of Ghotbi's coaching qualities, but because he had to start from scratch whereas Daei had an actually functioning team developed already. But probably the pressure on Daei would have been to big from all sides, because his coaching CV was not as impressive as CQ's. A sad thing we unfortunately have to accept.

                              What you describe as bad thing, namely people not blaming CQ so much as they would with an Iranian coach, could turn out as a major advantage. His authority stays intact and that allows him to properly continue.

                              So fact is, we are short of a couple of points, but it's far from over yet and therefore it would be a waste to prematurely end a project we can not set up again in the next decade already.

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                                #75
                                ^ majid joon, our martin seems to be a great fan of ferdowsi and shahnameh ... particularly the event of rostam and sohrab's battle, and more precisely the famous "nooshdaroo pass az marge sohrab".
                                I remember him saying this on countless occasions before too. saying we shd wait for failure and only THEN we act or chastise the chap!!!! as if once the damage is done then we can grill and that grilling will somehow turn the clock back and we can make changes to history (or maybe martin will do a superman and fly backwards around the earth and go to the date his coaches f**k up and ...)!!

                                I know one thing. I will never want to be in the same car with him driving. because if we take a wrong turn, he will not stop or turn around and will press on till we bloody fall off a freaking cliff. then maybe the guy (or his ghost) will say "oh, maybe we were wrong"!! ... or maybe not. so far I havent seen admission of wrong even when everything pointed towards that.

                                sorry mate, I am not built like that. I would like to correct things BEFORE they get worse or ultimately fail totally. if there is a chance, no matter how small, that with a reversal we could avoid failure, I would take it.





                                and lol. he says the "advantage" of CQ is his name. I say that is a major disadvantage as now, with such a famous "name", fools like kafashian will behave like utter obedient, subservient blind idiots who think "names" will do the trick.

                                such thought are so utterly wrong and foolish that they arent even funny anymore. if NAMES did the job, then we wouldnt be in this shitty situation and saudi (with raijkard, a MUCH BIGGER NAME than CQ) would have qualified for this stage and perhaps would have already qualified for the WC, and uzbeks would have been rock bottom with their no-named young coach and ... etc etc.
                                I can come up with a gazillion examples that NAMES DONT MATTER. but I know it will fall upon deaf (and very subservient) ears whose priorities are not Iran, but saving the arse of some highly paid, low performing coach!

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