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    Destruction of a legend.

    Ali Daei's legend is being destroyed, and has been going on, systematically, for sometime now
    but not by his own hand.... at least not only by him.
    by another person, whose wrong decisions and mentality has brought us to this point.

    I also feel bad for this legend who never saw when to retain his greatness and quit.

    but to come to the present, I must say I feel very bad for him, as many ppl blame him for Iran's loss !!

    this is extremely unfair.

    yes, he shd have ran more and got involved with offense more.
    yes, he shd have been subbed.


    but when we look realistically, we see it is not him who decides who to start, who to sub in and out.

    just as branko has systematically ruined the image of daei in the past 2 years, we saw the final blow to our greatest player in history, during the mexico game.

    for years, branko's idiotic and wimpy nature refused to allow changing of daei on many occasions that his services were not required. ( the few times he did, were either due to other reasons, such as daei resting from injuries or too little too late cases ).

    this made daei's presence on the pitch a sensitive matter to all fans.
    fans saw daei playing and started blaming and cursing him!
    they never saw why he was kept as starter to play teams like guam, laos, panama, .... !!
    they just didnt bother.

    they saw players like khatibi, enayati, ... sit on the bench and daei play in these games, and they targetted the wrong man for their hate.

    in our last game, also, many blame daei for the loss.
    why?
    how?
    did he score on us?
    did he make mistakes just as yahya and nosrati did in our warm up games against bosnia and croatia and .... ?
    then why attack him?

    yes, he didnt do much.
    but we cant say he didnt do anything.
    he did join in the defense a bit and acted more like a central mid , rather than center forward.

    yes, the wrong role for the wrong player.
    but did HE choose this role?

    once again, branko has dealt a dirty hand to daei and damaged him even more !

    instead of acting like an intelligent coach , and recognizing the need of the team, which was pace and fresh legs, he chose to continue the destruction of daei by persisting with him while he was reduced to a man walking on the pitch !


    lets be fair and realistic.
    WHO is to be blamed if a player ( whoever it may be ) , inspite of not helping the team anywhichway, is retained till the end of the game?

    lets not fall for mob mentality.
    lets look a bit deeper and not be superficial.

    #2
    DD Jaan -
    I think you are being too kind to Daei. From what we hear he has been responsible for a young palyer (Mobali) not to be in Germany - and worse he is responsible for another young player Zandi not to start !! apparantly because his conduct was not to IRI liking !!!

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      #3
      Originally posted by Amirza
      DD Jaan -
      I think you are being too kind to Daei. From what we hear he has been responsible for a young palyer (Mobali) not to be in Germany - and worse he is responsible for another young player Zandi not to start !! apparantly because his conduct was not to IRI liking !!!
      He always was.

      Peyman (DD) jan thought Daei was the best we got before the game, now he slightly changes his opinion.

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        #4
        Ali Daei should never be blamed.......he did not put gun to Branko's head !!!
        Branko wanted him......

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          #5
          Every player in tm has a responsibility to the people of Iran. They must never go on the field if they know another player can do a better job than them. Players such as Mirzapour, Nosrati and Daei and anyone else should do the right thing and step aside for the betterment of the team. If the coach is too stupid to do what is best for the team you take the decision out of their hands and force the best players to be present on the field.
          The REAL. The LEGEND. Since 2001.

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            #6
            What is it about Daei that Branko loves?

            Lets say Branko is stupid, very stupid but is he that stupid to see that Daei is way past his best. When everone looks at Daei's play they say he is just not good enough, then why does Branko think he is not only good enough to be starter but to play for 90 minutes every game. Branko can be critisized for a lot of things he has done but it is very unfair to blame him for this.

            Daei has become so big that to leave him out of a match he has to fake an injury.

            If daei thinks his reputation is being ruined by Branko, why does he not just quit.

            Lets be fair at least.

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              #7
              Thakhti I am confused by your post in this thread

              Per subject line. From your posting I can't undrestand how one can not blame Branko, could you clairfy?
              "When I see the good in you, you get motivated, feel good about yourself and that creates synergy. It creates an environment where everybody can work better together. I think in the Iranian culture it becomes very ordinary to always see the bad in each other."
              Afshin Ghotbi ( Former TM Head Coach)



              Nasser Hejazi was the Takhti of our football.
              Mohammad Panjali (Former PP and TM Captain)
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                #8
                Guys -
                Those of you who think Branko is in full charge of TM are sadly mistaking - I guarantee you he has nothing to do with Daei being a starter - that decesion is dictated to him. Iran is the country of "million dictators" in every corner and on every aspect, and football is no exception. In fact the only reason this $50,000/year assistant coach got the job was his "Yes Sir" attitude of accepting dictation.

                I suggest you look into an entity called: IFF Herasat - there must be at least 20 of them in Germany today. Every single one of them can dictate their wishes on to Branco or any of the players - rest assured.

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                  #9
                  My comments about Amirza's posting in this thread

                  Although I generally agree with Amirza's comment about "so may different people in Charge and all that", I tend to disagree with his comment about Dai being forced upon Bran***. IR officials are smart enough for their own sake to know that Dai isn't a popular choice (since past 2-3 years at least) and by no means they will be ready to spend any popularity capital on Dai.

                  Remember IR is the governemnt that sacrifices his own prodigy childs (likes of Montazeri, Khalkhali, and Taherie Former Iman Jomeh Isfahan or they executed Hashemi) to stay in power. So they don't care about nothing but staying in power. So, having that in mind it doesn't make sense to back up Dai.

                  I think it is very fashionable for "Iranians" to blame everything to government. I remember when I was a kid in Iran, I was staying too long in the Naane Barbari Saff (Queue to buy bread) and we blamed the governemnt. Not that government in Iran is any good or I am trying to defend them, but there is this phenomenon that we dont' try to address issues that has nothing to do with the government and we simply blame the government for everything.
                  I am not a IR supporter and walked two days to get out of Iran (through Zahedan) and haven't been back to Iran for 25 years, because I don't want to sign the infacmous paper that one has to sign to get an Iranian passport. So by no means I am their supporter, but I remember even druing the former regime, they wanted to raise the price of public transportation and people blamed that on the government. Government in Iran has become an escape goat for every other problem.
                  I know goverment in Iran didn't allow domocracy and the so called "Jameh Madani" and all that, but our society has a lot of other problems and until we stop blaming the government for everthign and looking at our own shortcomings we wont' get anywhere.
                  As an example look at how there were more Mexicans in the stadium last Sunday in Germany. I bet you part of the problem was the fact that most Iranians procrastinated to get tickets to the last minutes or are cheap to pay the black market price and then we claim that we love our national team. Iranians I am sure have more income per capita (at least the ones that live in Europe or US) than Mexican. So how come there were more Mexican. Or how come Mexicans were sitting (based on what I read in this site) in the Iranian section? Is this government's fault too. I read in Iranian newspapers there were whole bunch of Iranians who gathered in front of the Iran's team hotel and asked Dadkan to get them ticket to the game 2 days befor the match!!!!! DA

                  Bottom line, let's just be a bit more fair and brave enough to accept our short comings. I am sure IR will be gone one day, the same way Pahlavi's regime left, but did the life in Iran got better? No, why because the leaders changed but people NOT.

                  This is not a rebuttel at your posting by any means, just sharing my two cents. Hope it doesn't come across in a wrong way.

                  Ali
                  "When I see the good in you, you get motivated, feel good about yourself and that creates synergy. It creates an environment where everybody can work better together. I think in the Iranian culture it becomes very ordinary to always see the bad in each other."
                  Afshin Ghotbi ( Former TM Head Coach)



                  Nasser Hejazi was the Takhti of our football.
                  Mohammad Panjali (Former PP and TM Captain)
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                    #10
                    Dear Ali,
                    Thanx for you response. Iran is a lot different than what it was 25 years ago. While I do agree with you that us Iranians tend to hide our defaults behind other people's faults - and also agree that we will never amount to anything in the international arena, unless we overcome some of our serious social shortcomings (such as disorderly bahavior, self preservation, inability to follow, etc.) - but this Daei thing is a problem that stems in a system which allows ONE MAN's interests to override interests of a whole nation. This phenomen happens in every aspect of the post revolution Iranian life - it's just that unlike important issues, Daeis case is visible for all to follow and critic.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ali Chicago
                      Per subject line. From your posting I can't undrestand how one can not blame Branko, could you clairfy?
                      Dear Ali, what i am trying to say is that one way or another Branko feels obliged to play Daei, whether this is by someone directly telling him to play Daei or him feeling as though it would not be good not to play him I do not know.

                      My evidence for this is that Ali Daie has become too big in Iranian football, his name is on almost every shirt in all the leagues of Iran (due to his kit making business), he is als known to be close to some high people in the federation. A prime example of the sensitivity of the Daei issue was witnessed after the Bahrain game in Manama last year. At the end of that game the presenter asked Zolfagharnasab (at least i think it was him or another coach in the IPL) how the players played. He said Hashemian played por but that was because he was in the wrong position and Mahdaviia also didn't play as expected. The commentator pushed him a little to name someone else and he started hesitating and in the end said: 'well Daei played a little bad as well'. I don't know if you remember that game or not but Daei played very badly. Why should he have hesitated.

                      If Branko really wants to play Daei because of his qualities then why doesn't he even sub him off in friendlies.

                      The fact is Branko feels as though Daei is untouchable and must be played.

                      Sorry, it was a bit too long.

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                        #12
                        Thanks Thakhti Jaan for clarification

                        Hopefully Dai will retire after the world cup and his saga comes to end.
                        "When I see the good in you, you get motivated, feel good about yourself and that creates synergy. It creates an environment where everybody can work better together. I think in the Iranian culture it becomes very ordinary to always see the bad in each other."
                        Afshin Ghotbi ( Former TM Head Coach)



                        Nasser Hejazi was the Takhti of our football.
                        Mohammad Panjali (Former PP and TM Captain)
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