Esteghlal Fan Thread...

[siavasharian]

^In ye bazi be kheir begzare ghahremanim,
what's wrong with Mobali?

[OsaBlue]

^ he's still mahroum because of the red card incident against Shahrdari

[zzgloo]

1- It seems Parviz mazloomi is going to stay, and he should , for the next season.

2-Mazloomi did not have much choices to select players to start the season..

3- next year, SS can find compplementary players....( such as Bengar )

4- Perspolise and Esteghlal, are not so exciting to play for....for Most players, and they mostly wish to play in other teams......, even playing for teams like Shahin Bushehr is not a shame !

5-Mazloomi has done a good job, considering the circumstances....and finishing in top 4 at the end is not bad at all.

6- Esteghlal, needs some stability, in management and coaching,and a complete staff of players , whom have played together at least for two years or so.........

7- I do not see, this team, to win the league this year, nor do I think it deserves it.

[Kasra.]

Half the team is injured guys, we can't expect Mazloumi to do miracles, we should just focus on the results right now, rather than playing beautiful. Tomorrow we basically have no playmaker with Mobali and Jabbari missing, but i still hope they can pull off a win somehow. Hopefully most of our injured players are ready again after AC.

nah bro,

even with all our players we never really had a great game. Mazloumi hasn't been able to do anything with the team.

[Ali Chicago]

I am serioulsy worried about game against Zob. Forget about playing beautiful, I am afraid, SS might get trashed like PP in recent weeks. I hope I am wrong, I just have a bad feeling. For the love of god, I don't know why they not singing a playmaker. We all know Jabbari while a great player, he will get injured.
This year SS played on the shoulders of Majidi and Maydavoodi. Maydavoodi is gone for 4 months. Let's hope Majidi pulls another one out of the hat.

For those who say players are injured, please look at Shahin, even Saba. They dont' have to so called marquee players, but to be honest they play better football than current SS. Second half of the Foolad-SS game was a disgrace to watch ( I missed the first half). Now they say SS played poor in the first half, so imagine how bad that would have been.

[yashar_fasihnia]

^
u were always asking for mazloomi to coach esteghlal and sometimes even TM..

[zzgloo]

Esteghlal......is particularly weak on defense....

1- Goal keeping is acceptable..
2- Defense,is way too weak, specialy in the center.....Hope, SS gets Bangar next year.
3-Midfield,is accetable
4-offense is good.
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More than anything, SS defense lacks experince and talent......to win the championship.........
This year, if we end up in the top 4,it would be good enough.

[zzgloo]

شعار تباني در آزادي، قهر بازيكن ذوب**آهن و تشويق محمدي
حاشيه ديدار استقلال و ذوب*آهن
هواداران استقلال پس از باخت به ذوب*آهن عليه داور شعار دادند.
پس از اعلام خطاي پنالتي به نفع ذوب آهن، هواداران استقلال به شدت عليه محسن تركي داور مسابقه شعار دادند. آنها با سر دادن شعار " تباني تباني فوتبال اصفهاني " اين اعتراض را نشان دادند.

آنها در ادامه نيز شعار " با اين داوري جام را به اصفهان بدهيد " به اين اعتراض ها ادامه دادند. شعار عليه عنايت هم از ديگر اعتراض هاي هواداران استقلال بود.

*مربيان استقلال قبل از آغاز بازي به سمت نيمكت ذوب*آهن رفتند و به آنها خوشامد گفتند. وحيد طالب لو نيز از بين بازيكنان استقلال به سمت منصور ابراهيم زاده رفت.

* 300 هوادار ذوب*آهن در ورزشگاه آزادي حضور داشتند. آنها پرچم بزرگي را با خود حمل كرده بودند كه روي آن نوشته شده بود " شهاب قلب جويبار. "

* در پي اعتراض خلعتبري به كارت دادن داور به كاپيتان ذوب*آهن هواداران استقلال عليه مهاجم ذوب شعار دادند.

* در بدو ورود خبرنگاران به ورزشگاه آزادي آنها را مورد بازرسي بدني قرار دادند كه با اعتراض نماينده رسانه هاي گروهي روبرو شد اما ماموران ويژه اين كار در جواب مي گفتند خبرنگاران هم مي توانند بمب داشته باشند.

* وقتي نتيجه بازي ديدار پرسپوليس و سايپا كه با برد سرخپوشان همراه بود در ورزشگاه آزادي اعلام شد، هواداران استقلال تيم رقيب را هو كردند.

* با وجود باخت استقلال در اين بازي هواداران اين تيم مظلومي را تشويق كردند.

* پس از به صدا درآمدن سوت نيمه اول آرش برهاني كه از داور كارت زرد دريافت كرده بود قصد داشت به سمت محسن تركي برود تا به وي اعتراض كند، اما وحيد طالب لو مانع از اعتراض برهاني شد و نگذاشت او به سمت داور برود.

*علي فتح الله زاده، علي اميري، علي نظري جويباري و رضا رجبي در جايگاه ويژه اين بازي را تماشا كردند.

* شهاب گردان در بين نيمه پيراهن خود را عوض كرد و با پيراهن مشكي رنگ وارد زمين شد. رنگ پيراهن او در نيمه اول شبيه پيراهن طالب لو بود.

* قاسم حدادي فر وقتي قصد خروج از زمين به دليل تعويض را داشت، منصور ابراهيم زاده سرمربي ذوب آهن دست خود را براي خسته نباشيد به سمت اين بازيكن دراز كرد ولي حدادي فر دست او را پس زد و حتي روي نيمكت هم ننشست و به سمت رختكن رفت.

* با پايان بازي هواداران استقلال ابتدا محمد محمدي را تشويق كردند ولي وحيد طالب لو كه گلر استقلال در اين بازي بود براي آنها دست زد و همين باعث شد شمار ديگري از هواداران اين تيم طالب لو را تشويق كنند.

[Ali Chicago]

^
u were always asking for mazloomi to coach esteghlal and sometimes even TM..

Always!!!!!! asked Mazloomi to coach SS? Among coaches in Iran he is among the better one. SS has a lot of injuries at present as well. I have no elme Ghayb that how he would perform in SS. Again, SS at present has a lot of injuries. Ravankhah, Jabbari, Sayyed Salehi, Mohsen Yousefi, Hadi Shakouri, Koushki were injured as well. Even Farhad Majidi was injured. Mazloomi had to play injured Sadeghi in Foolad's game and he worsended his injury.

Having said all of this, it shows, I say it as I see it. Mazloomi did well, in West Asian and good results in Mes, Abomoslem. So I said he deserves a chance, he got his chance. Right now I said I am worried about SS and didn't ask for Mazloomi to be sacked.

At least I am not some people who have ahde okhavat with a head coach and no matter what they defend him.

[yashar_fasihnia]

^
lol, i see u still havent lost ur imaginative touch about me and my "pesar amoo" and the secret relationship i have with him
u seem to have forgotten when there were discussions about esteghlals coach, u would make mazloomi ur first priority.
on a side note,u only have grudges against certain coaches who u try to blame no matter wat. thats ur ahd

thanx for explaining the injury situation of my team which i follow, but here is ur own quote:

I am serioulsy worried about game against Zob. Forget about playing beautiful, I am afraid, SS might get trashed like PP in recent weeks. I hope I am wrong, I just have a bad feeling. For the love of god, I don't know why they not singing a playmaker. We all know Jabbari while a great player, he will get injured.
This year SS played on the shoulders of Majidi and Maydavoodi. Maydavoodi is gone for 4 months. Let's hope Majidi pulls another one out of the hat.
For those who say players are injured, please look at Shahin, even Saba. They dont' have to so called marquee players, but to be honest they play better football than current SS. Second half of the Foolad-SS game was a disgrace to watch ( I missed the first half). Now they say SS played poor in the first half, so imagine how bad that would have been.

[Ali Chicago]

^
lol, i see u still havent lost ur imaginative touch about me and my "pesar amoo" and the secret relationship i have with him
u seem to have forgotten when there were discussions about esteghlals coach, u would make mazloomi ur first priority.
on a side note,u only have grudges against certain coaches who u try to blame no matter wat. thats ur ahd
thanx for explaining the injury situation of my team which i follow, but here is ur own quote:

There was this guy who went to the village and wanted to teach the kids in the village. So he went to the school and spelled Snake (Mar). The Mulla of the Village didn't' want anyone to think anyone else is more knowledgeable than him, went and drew a snake (Mar) and asked villager, now you tell me which one the Mar. It is called being a demagogue.

My post was about having high expectation from the team I love and cherished when you weren't even born even. It wasn't criticizing Mazloomi. Furthermore, If I said Mazlloomi is a good coach doesn't mean everything he does is right. That is a mentality that is very hard to digest for some people. That is why during the WC2006 they had a hard time to criticize Iran's performance, because Branko was the head coach. It is the black or white mentality.


Where does my original post has anything critical of Mazloomi? Furthermore, my post said I am worried about SS. While SS doesn't play well (still haven't seen Zob game) but based on where the team was at the end of the last season, So far SS has done well. Having said all of this, I am worried about the current trend in SS. SS doesn't have a play maker and our offense is stymied.

I am not fully happy with SS and Mazloomi performance, but at the same time, I remember where SS was at the beginning of the season. I also remember SS has suffered from injuries to the key players as well. Situation is so bad that Fardin Abedini started this and last game. Mahboob Mojaz is the sub to come when SS is down 4-0. Sadeghi who is injured still needs to be sent to the field. My post wasn't about Mazloomi, it was about not signing a play maker while Jabbari is always injured and Mobali didn't turn out to be what we wanted. How did you brought this to be a discussion about Mazloomi, is beyond me. You and your imaginative mind, try to twist and make a sarcastic post as if there is a contradiction!!!!

Among current coaches in Iran, Mazllomi based on his record is among top 5. You don't like him, it is all right, I don't put a gun to your head to like him. At the beginning of the season, when Fattollah Zadeh came and SS situation was up in the air, Mazllomi came and accepted responsibility. It is not a small token.

Delet az Jaaye deegheh poreh amoo. I don't like Branko, Daie duo in the WC 2006, you do. Can we agree to disagree? Amazing that you think you know so much about football, while according to your own admission didn't play competitive soccer or ever coached!!!! Whenever you played at the competitive level at the state level or have a coaching license then maybe we can have a peer based conversation.

I don't have the time and ENERGY to write long response (liked I did to you during the infamous WC2006) and this is the last post I write in response.

[yashar_fasihnia]

There was this guy who went to the village and wanted to teach the kids in the village. So he went to the school and spelled Snake (Mar). The Mulla of the Village didn't' want anyone to think anyone else is more knowledgeable than him, went and drew a snake (Mar) and asked villager, now you tell me which one the Mar. It is called being a demagogue.
My post was about having high expectation from the team I love and cherished when you weren't even born even. It wasn't criticizing Mazloomi. Furthermore, If I said Mazlloomi is a good coach doesn't mean everything he does is right. That is a mentality that is very hard to digest for some people. That is why during the WC2006 they had a hard time to criticize Iran's performance, because Branko was the head coach. It is the black or white mentality.
Where does my original post has anything critical of Mazloomi? Furthermore, my post said I am worried about SS. While SS doesn't play well (still haven't seen Zob game) but based on where the team was at the end of the last season, So far SS has done well. Having said all of this, I am worried about the current trend in SS. SS doesn't have a play maker and our offense is stymied.
I am not fully happy with SS and Mazloomi performance, but at the same time, I remember where SS was at the beginning of the season. I also remember SS has suffered from injuries to the key players as well. Situation is so bad that Fardin Abedini started this and last game. Mahboob Mojaz is the sub to come when SS is down 4-0. Sadeghi who is injured still needs to be sent to the field. My post wasn't about Mazloomi, it was about not signing a play maker while Jabbari is always injured and Mobali didn't turn out to be what we wanted. How did you brought this to be a discussion about Mazloomi, is beyond me. You and your imaginative mind, try to twist and make a sarcastic post as if there is a contradiction!!!!
Among current coaches in Iran, Mazllomi based on his record is among top 5. You don't like him, it is all right, I don't put a gun to your head to like him. At the beginning of the season, when Fattollah Zadeh came and SS situation was up in the air, Mazllomi came and accepted responsibility. It is not a small token.
Delet az Jaaye deegheh poreh amoo. I don't like Branko, Daie duo in the WC 2006, you do. Can we agree to disagree? Amazing that you think you know so much about football, while according to your own admission didn't play competitive soccer or ever coached!!!! Whenever you played at the competitive level at the state level or have a coaching license then maybe we can have a peer based conversation.
I don't have the time and ENERGY to write long response (liked I did to you during the infamous WC2006) and this is the last post I write in response.

as usual, ur post is full of wrong assumptions, wrong conclusions and wrong claims with ur usual innocent tone, so there is no use for me to continue this either cos i did it a million times for u before but for some people, bala beri, payin biyay morgh 1 pa dare. watever makes u happy, ur the king of ur own world

[zzgloo]

We SS fans..should ,criticise the coaching...and never be content.......
parviz Mazloomi, has not been given enough chances to be fairly judged..yet, the level of football is currantly offered by Esteghlal, is just not acceptable....and too ordinary,and too predictable......

The SS, Zob Ahan game.....was an good example...as The secound half adjustement by Ebrahimzadeh, gave the Zob Ahan the three points......
SS ,should never be outcoached !, specialy by another Iranian Coach.

[PouriaAkaBarut]

يداوودي و جباري براي ادامه ورزش قهرماني مشكلي ندارند


رئيس فدراسيون پزشكي ورزشي در مورد وضعيت بازيكنان مصدوم تيم استقلال كه در موردشان شايع شده آينده ورزشي*شان به خطر افتاده و قادر به ادامه فوتبال نيستند، گفت: در اين مورد با دكتر نوروزي صحبت كردم كه معتقد بود آنها براي ادامه ورزش قهرماني مشكلي ندارند و اميدواريم اين اتفاق هر چه زودتر رخ دهد.
وي با تاكيد بر اينكه با پيشرفت پزشكي در ايران،* در حال حاضر تنها قطع عضو مي*تواند منجر به خداحافظي هميشگي از ورزش شود، تصريح كرد: با توجه به پيشرفتي كه داشته*ايم هيچ*كدام از آسيب*هاي شايع در رشته*هاي ورزشي مختلف نمي*تواند ورزشكار را براي هميشه از ورزش قهرماني دور كند. آسب*هاي مربوط به زانو از جمله پارگي مينيسك، رباط و ... همه و همه حداكثر مي*تواند شش ماه تا يك سال دوري از ورزش را به همراه داشته باشد. افرادي كه به دليل چنين مصدوميت*هايي به دنياي قهرماني*شان پايان مي*دهند، كساني هستند كه وارد يك چرخه معيوب درماني مي*شوند.

منبع

[masoud nekounam]

^What happened to Meydavoudi?