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    #16
    Literally no one will care if Iran gets banned. People calling for it are using no logic. If it happens Ukraine will take our spot - much better right? The Nazi filled country helping march us toward nuclear annihilation. The discourse among Iranians these days has been so illogical and twisted I can't even keep up anymore. Everyone fighting each other and at each other's throats.

    The bottom line is Iran getting banned will do nothing for Iranians and actually be an opportunity lost for getting coverage and attention on the international stage.

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      #17
      I completely agree with you Kateb jan. And good on you for being tolerant of others views.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Hosseini View Post
        Literally no one will care if Iran gets banned. People calling for it are using no logic. If it happens Ukraine will take our spot - much better right? The Nazi filled country helping march us toward nuclear annihilation. The discourse among Iranians these days has been so illogical and twisted I can't even keep up anymore. Everyone fighting each other and at each other's throats.

        The bottom line is Iran getting banned will do nothing for Iranians and actually be an opportunity lost for getting coverage and attention on the international stage.
        There have been pitchforks, but Iranians have been very united - as seen by the millions who have attended protests abroad. That's crazy unity!

        We will have differing views. But Iran has to be at the World Cup - deserved and these players have been saying to hell with the Islamic Republic in so many ways.

        Why are you calling Ukraine a Nazi country? That's Putin, Lunny Leftists and Shia Islamists rhetoric right there.
        "This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh

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          #19
          Originally posted by Hosseini View Post
          Literally no one will care if Iran gets banned. People calling for it are using no logic. If it happens Ukraine will take our spot - much better right? The Nazi filled country helping march us toward nuclear annihilation. The discourse among Iranians these days has been so illogical and twisted I can't even keep up anymore. Everyone fighting each other and at each other's throats.

          The bottom line is Iran getting banned will do nothing for Iranians and actually be an opportunity lost for getting coverage and attention on the international stage.

          Football err soccer is a hubby..
          SPORT is great thing to turn in this world to get away
          from all its negativity.
          people can care about everything in life,, cry be sad the whole enchilada,, spending hour or 2 escaping that atmosphere and follow sport THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
          WE SHALL CONTINUE FOLLOWING OUR SPORTS TEAM WITH LOVE AND PASSION, and at the same time care about important matters in real life.
          and the Persians who tell others STOP HAVING FUN BY SUPPORTING YOUR SPORT TEAM, are no different than those
          a-holes in iran telling women to fix their hijab or tell man cNt wear shorts in the street..
          everything has its place and as civilized people we are capable of managing our time and knowing what's good for us and what's not.
          who ever wants tm ban I respect their wish and opinion
          BUT DO NOT FORCED YOUR IDEAS ON OTHERS. and look down on them because they want follow and watch their sports team..
          DONT BE AN A-HOLE LIKE THE ONES FORCE THEIR IDEAS ON OTHER BY ENFORCING HIJAB by FORCING YOUR ANTI sport
          Idea on others .

          #life women freedom

          Say her name
          Mahsa aminiiiiiiii

          # let tm play

          #let man wear shorts in iran

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            #20
            Originally posted by taremiscores View Post

            There have been pitchforks, but Iranians have been very united - as seen by the millions who have attended protests abroad. That's crazy unity!

            We will have differing views. But Iran has to be at the World Cup - deserved and these players have been saying to hell with the Islamic Republic in so many ways.

            Why are you calling Ukraine a Nazi country? That's Putin, Lunny Leftists and Shia Islamists rhetoric right there.
            It's a fact the country has tons of Nazis, there is a battalion in their military that's nazi. Plus: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-s...98Q1B120130927

            I don't think many diaspora Iranians have been united to be honest on the future of Iran, but we can agree to disagree here

            Does that justify the invasion? No. Is Putin a bad guy? Yes. But the fact that Zelensky is not even wanting to negotiate and the country is being turned into rubble, plus the fact that we are inching closer to nuclear war because of this stubbornness to not negotiate is a disaster. Ukraine is not some modern gay friendly happy democracy like the West wants to make it, which is the framing for it to take Iran's place

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              #21
              Originally posted by Hosseini View Post

              It's a fact the country has tons of Nazis, there is a battalion in their military that's nazi. Plus: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-s...98Q1B120130927

              I don't think many diaspora Iranians have been united to be honest on the future of Iran, but we can agree to disagree here

              Does that justify the invasion? No. Is Putin a bad guy? Yes. But the fact that Zelensky is not even wanting to negotiate and the country is being turned into rubble, plus the fact that we are inching closer to nuclear war because of this stubbornness to not negotiate is a disaster. Ukraine is not some modern gay friendly happy democracy like the West wants to make it, which is the framing for it to take Iran's place
              I think people want a secular democracy. That's clear. Democracy will pave path for future of country. Just cause some people want to expose the NIACs of the world, doesn't mean it's bad or division.

              There are Nazis in every country, including Russia.We are going to cite Nazis/Radical right-wingers in a football match as proof? Then every European country would fit the bill.That battalion you're talking about has like 900 people in there. Plus, their president is Jewish.

              Russia is unwilling to concede anything and they are the ones that invaded. We are inching towards a nuclear war because it's Ukraine that has nuclear weapons, right? hmm Alright.
              "This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh

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                #22
                Ukraine does not have a small Nazi presence. It's pretty substantial. There's a lot of evidence on this. Anyway the bottom line is the country is not a bastion of liberal progressivism like a lot of people want to make it out to be, in order to supersede Iran. In fact, it's leading us to global catastrophe along with the US, as it's not pressuring Zelensky- this moron whos busy signing book deals and getting vogue photo shoots - who's not taking a settlement. No one wants to get eviscerated because of Donbas.

                Russia clearly has terms laid out. They want no NATO and the Russian speaking regions. It's pretty clear. The US/Ukraine has no terms put forward.

                Does anything think Putin is going to roll over, apologize and withdraw the troops? If he loses, he'll probably be removed from power and replaced with a war hawk military general, potentially even worse. Think logically here. Fighting until the last man with more war is going to lead us to potential annihilation.




                Originally posted by taremiscores View Post

                I think people want a secular democracy. That's clear. Democracy will pave path for future of country. Just cause some people want to expose the NIACs of the world, doesn't mean it's bad or division.

                There are Nazis in every country, including Russia.We are going to cite Nazis/Radical right-wingers in a football match as proof? Then every European country would fit the bill.That battalion you're talking about has like 900 people in there. Plus, their president is Jewish.

                Russia is unwilling to concede anything and they are the ones that invaded. We are inching towards a nuclear war because it's Ukraine that has nuclear weapons, right? hmm Alright.

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                  #23
                  I wish our amazing women would have had this "God-given right" in their own country's stadia for the last 43 years.

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                    #24
                    I personally think banning Iran's football for WC will not do any harm to the regime. As a matter of fact the IR would love to be handed such great opportunity to exercise its usual blame game and distraction trickery. They also are absolutely aware that each TM match in the World Cup, regardless of the attending nationalities will bear a full stadium unanimously chanting anti-IR slogans such as Mahsa Amini, Women life freedom, etc.

                    I also believe/hope that our players will do something in each game to show solidarity with their people and women. I really do believe they will pull that!

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
                      I wish our amazing women would have had this "God-given right" in their own country's stadia for the last 43 years.
                      I wish our beautiful
                      intelligent persian women
                      Had THEIR GOD GIVEN RIGHT
                      SINCE THOUSAND YEARS A GO.

                      #MAHSA AMINI

                      #LET TM PLAY

                      # SHORTS FOR PERSIAN MAN IN THE STREETS

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Keano View Post
                        I personally think banning Iran's football for WC will not do any harm to the regime. As a matter of fact the IR would love to be handed such great opportunity to exercise its usual blame game and distraction trickery. They also are absolutely aware that each TM match in the World Cup, regardless of the attending nationalities will bear a full stadium unanimously chanting anti-IR slogans such as Mahsa Amini, Women life freedom, etc.

                        I also believe/hope that our players will do something in each game to show solidarity with their people and women. I really do believe they will pull that!
                        Like great al Davis used to say
                        "Just win baby"
                        And millions will party in street
                        With MAHSA LOOKING DOWN ON THEM FROM HEAVEN.

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                          #27
                          Agree with Hosseini. Anyone who's been to Ukraine knows about those stuff. No one wants a nuclear armageddon over Donbass. Remember our own war with Iraq where we could have had a ceasefire after 1.5 years, yet needlessly both sides kept fighting due to mass egos of two pieces of shits (similar here). resulting in many many needless deaths and destruction of civil liberties in Iran in the name of "war time orders".

                          Anyways, point is, first of all, there is no chance in HELL that TM will get banned with less than a month to go.

                          Second of all, if 0.01% chance Iran got banned, it'll be replaced by Italy (highest ranking national team in FIFA ranking who isn't in World Cup) as it's clearly laid out in the rules. Not because of "mwah feelings, Ukraine".

                          Having said that, I completely understand the complete binary feelings of many Iranians about the Russo-Ukrainian war as Russia quite clearly milks Iran's resources using IR's weaknesses and dependence on them. And a victory for Ukraine means a weakened IR...but I'm positive our revolution will succeed long before that war ends.

                          I do find it cringe that people say: "Imagine Hamed Esmailion can be our Zelensky" which I find a big big insult to Hamed (if you knew about Zele's background and massive lies and change of agenda for what got him selected that could have prevented all this destruction and needless deaths) .... but we live in weird political times when IR's biggest foreign supporters are either far right (mwah based Mullah / destroy CIA bla bla) or far left ( mwah IR is the axis of resistence vs. Israel and isn't as bad as Saudi) ....what a time to be alive !

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                            #28
                            Are we deleting posts on this forum now? Could have sworn I made a few good posts in this thread..
                            #WilmotsOUT

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bladsville View Post
                              Are we deleting posts on this forum now? Could have sworn I made a few good posts in this thread..
                              The fourm is in New format and it deletes posts on its own.
                              pfdc is not like that to delete members posts.

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                                #30
                                Mashsaeed, don't get your ass banned again. PFDC isn't the same without you

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