TM NEWS - VOL 8

[AmirSalar]

What does it say?

It's the video posted in the "The players are not our enemies thread" I didn't realize until after seeing that thread.

[AmirSalar]

Saudi beating Argentina 2-1....

[orbicular]

Saudi beating Argentina 2-1....

What a game by Saudia Arabia. They were dismissed all the way and yet they entered the game full of confidence. Without the bogus penalty, it would have been 2-0. The Saudis adopted the opposite approach taken by Iran against England. Of course, they're getting solid support from their fans and their government as well. Unlike Iran, which played not to lose, the Saudis, with their impeccable defense, smooth counter attacks and well-timed offside traps, came into the game with nothing on their minds but winning. And they were hugely and steadfastly supported by their fans.

This should be Iran's approach for the next two games--attack-oriented games buttressed by good defense, as parking the bus would get the team nowhere. Last night two commentators on Telemundo made some interesting comments about Team Melli and its first WC game. One said that the upheaval in the country must be affecting the players. He also found Iranian fans' behavior throughout the game against England baffling, as their initial support soon morphed into jeers and insults and then joyous celebration after Iran scored two goals. This is not what Saudi Arabaia experienced today. Another commentator stated that Iran's performance was surprising, given that many of the same players in this World Cup were instrumental in their successful campaign in 2018.

Iran are capable of beating Wales, providing they adopt a more aggressive style with their absolute best eleven on the field. The players also need to stay away from social media until after the competition.

[LocalSkeptic]

Edited, account muted to the end of World Cup, direct message me to regain access after the WC

[EZLN]

Sad, begrudging, divided, egotistical, nostalgic Iranians will continue to be ass backwards until we learn a hard lesson. Other humans would learn from the catastrophe that was the Islamic Revolution and never repeat it again...while we're repeating the same 43 years later with no leader for the movement and chickens running around with their heads cut off.

We are such sad people. "bUt 5000 yEar hIStory!" -- haha, okay bucco how's that benefiting you now?

Let's all enjoy MBS' world, we're living in it. Dude playin' SimCity, Saudi Express.

Someone ban this Saudi agent asap.

[LocalSkeptic]

Don't get triggered, EZLN. Stop being so triggered. Hot headedness has set us backwards, exhibit a: you. When the tough gets going, or someone disagrees with you: "ban him!", "he must be saudi" -- for my God we ever criticize ourselves

[EZLN]

Don't get triggered, EZLN. Stop being so triggered. Hot headedness has set us backwards, exhibit a: you. When the tough gets going, or someone disagrees with you: "ban him!", "he must be saudi" -- for my God we ever criticize ourselves

You copy and pasted your comment on three different threads. What do you think this is?

[a_m]

e 2022Friendly Saudi Arabia 0–1 Colombia Murcia, Spain 19:00 UTC+2 Report Borré 9' 9 June 2022Friendly Saudi Arabia 0–1 Venezuela Murcia, Spain 19:00 UTC+2 Report Ferraresi 37' 23 September 2022Friendly Saudi Arabia 0–0 Ecuador Murcia, Spain 20:00 UTC+2 Report 27 September 2022Friendly Saudi Arabia 0–0 United States Murcia, Spain 20:00 UTC+2 Report 22 October 2022Friendly Saudi Arabia 1–0 North Macedonia Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates 18:30 UTC+4 Al-Shehri 85' Report 26 October 2022Friendly Saudi Arabia 1–1 Albania Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates 21:00 UTC+4 Al-Shehri 43' (pen.) Report Balaj 47' 30 October 2022Friendly Saudi Arabia 0–0 Honduras Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates 18:30 UTC+4 Report 6 November 2022Friendly Saudi Arabia 1–0 Iceland Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates 16:00 UTC+4 Abdulhamid 26' Report 10 November 2022Friendly Panama 1–1 Saudi Arabia Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates 17:00 UTC+4 Díaz 8' Report Asiri 37' 16 November 2022Friendly Saudi Arabia 0–1 Croatia Riyadh, Saudi Arabia 20:00 UTC+3 Report Kramarić 82' look at how many friendly games Saudi’s Arabia played before this World Cup….. now that is a preparation

[diz]

Lol even jon Stewart giving more props to our player than some of these expat clowns

[nisfejahan]

Lol even jon Stewart giving more props to our player than some of these expat clowns

And the comments were overwhelmingly supportive!!

I have a very strong suspicion that twitter/IG bots are the main driver behind the online hate for TM.

[taremiscores]

And the comments were overwhelmingly supportive!!

I have a very strong suspicion that twitter/IG bots are the main driver behind the online hate for TM.

Nope, they are very real - even amongst those who for years have supported TM.

And amazing we criticize the other side for being extreme and dismissive yet on this side, people are calling these people traitors and such. Both sides act like one another and are the exact same.

The only hope I get for being an Iranian nowadays has been interacting with the Iranians (from Iran) that have come to Qatar. Amazing interacting with them and glad none of the expats will have any say in the Iran of Tomorrow.

[nisfejahan]

Nope, they are very real - even amongst those who for years have supported TM.

And amazing we criticize the other side for being extreme and dismissive yet on this side, people are calling these people traitors and such. Both sides act like one another and are the exact same.

The only hope I get for being an Iranian nowadays has been interacting with the Iranians (from Iran) that have come to Qatar. Amazing interacting with them and glad none of the expats will have any say in the Iran of Tomorrow.

Well, I said a suspicion. Frankly, I do not have the data to support or disprove it, and neither does anyone else. Unless a complete map is done to see where these bots originate and are amplified, no one can tell for sure.

When this whole campaign against TM started, Iran International, and some known cultish accounts (Rajabi, Alavi, etc) were in on it. I suspect the bots and the click factories amplified and started attacking TM and its supporters, and a portion of the over-excited population fell for it, just like 40 years ago when they decided for follow a 79 year old Mullah to see what happens.

In any case, it remains a suspicion on my part!!

[nisfejahan]

https://www.espn.com/soccer/ir-iran/...t-support-team

Queiroz on Iran boos: 'Stay at home' if you can't support team

DOHA, Qatar -- Iran coach Carlos Queiroz has told the country's fans to "stay at home" if they cannot support the team after boos were heard from supporters in Monday's 6-2 defeat to England.

Several members of the Iran squad have received criticism leading up to the tournament for not openly speaking out against the country's government amid nationwide protests, and players were jeered by their own fans during the Group B opener.

On Monday, all 11 players took a different stance, and decided not to sing the country's national anthem prior to kick off at the Khalifa International Stadium in a perceived show of support for protesters in Iran, a situation sparked two months ago by the death of 22-year-old Mahsa Amini in 'morality police custody.'

Amini died after being arrested in Tehran over an alleged breach of the Islamic republic's dress code and the nationwide fury has left the Iran team in the midst of a political storm as the World Cup begins in Qatar.

Queiroz, who managed Iran at two World Cups during an initial eight-year stint between 2011 and 2019 before returning earlier this year, said after the game: "In 2014, 2018, we had full support from the fans. And now you saw what happened today.

"That's why my duty, it is probably to invite the fans who are here already to support the team or they should stay home. Why did they come here to be against the team. We don't need them.

"It's much better they stay home. To have fans who only support the team when we are winning, we don't need them. It's something that the players can feel when they are playing."

Queiroz appeared to seek to clarify those initial comments later in his postmatch news conference, adding: "When I make the comment about Iranians, of course all Iranians in the stadium are all welcome. They have the right to be pleased or criticise the team, that is not a problem.

"Those that come to disturb the team with the issues that are not only about football opinions, they are not welcome because our boys are just simple football boys.

"They represent a country. I had the privilege to work in England, Portugal, many places and I know the passion of the game in England, Portugal, Spain and Brazil. Iran is not a fake country of football that you need to build up fake situations.

"The passion of football is all over the place. These kids, they have one dream: to play football., It is not their fault the World Cup happens in this moment.

"You don't even imagine behind the scenes what these kids they have been living in the last few days just because they want to play football, just because they want to express themselves as footballers.

"Whatever they do whatever they say, they want to kill them. Can you imagine at one stage of your life, whatever you say or do or think, you are killed? They only have one hope. Let them represent the country, play for the people, everybody represents the people here."

[Ari]

Today i feel ashamed o iranians who put pressure on team melli, even by myself. I'm sorry! Team Melli is always playing for us.I feel ashamed for iranians who abuse CQ, who helped us to bring our women back to the stadiums. Go and put pressure on Artesh or on your fathers and mothers. It's enough. NOT TEAM MELLI IS SABOTAGING OUR REVOLUTION!

[SkyeKingu]

Any updates on Beiro? Is he in on or out on Friday?