TM NEWS - VOL 8

[O-ZoNe]

Frankie DeYoung (Barca) and Virgil VanDyke (Liverpool), Memphis Depay (Barca) and De Licht (Bayern Munich), and Dumfries (Inter).

That is why the Dutch beat USA and we didn't. Talent.



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By your logic USA should win WC then.

Turner (Arsenal), Dest (AC milan), Robinson/Ream (Fulham), Adam's (Leeds), Musah (Valencia), Mckenzie (Juventus), Reyna (Dortmund), Pulisic (Chelsea), Weah (Lile)...and many more.

It's a team game. In a tight tourtnament strategy, formation, scouting, fundamentals all play a role. Just fielding legionnaires is not enough. Look at all the shock defeats and big countries that didn't go through.

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[Roozbeh-G2006]

The problem here is CQ is a defensive mastermind not and offensive mastermind ..

louis van gaal Showed today how you beat the USA team today with out needing to match their athleticism or running way too much he showed no matter what you need to have a correct lay out ….

Wouldn't call someone a defensive mastermind when his team lets in 7 goals in 3 games!
He is nothing but a well passed by his expiry date coach.
But we are used to be sold expired goods that are
stamped with a new date!

[koorosh]

By your logic USA should win WC then.

Turner (Arsenal), Dest (AC milan), Robinson/Ream (Fulham), Adam's (Leeds), Musah (Valencia), Mckenzie (Juventus), Reyna (Dortmund), Pulisic (Chelsea), Weah (Lile)...and many more.

It's a team game. In a tight tourtnament strategy, formation, scouting, fundamentals all play a role. Just fielding legionnaires is not enough. Look at all the shock defeats and big countries that didn't go through.

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That is a bit reductionist take on what I meant...stars are not the only factor but in this game they were the most important factor.

Here is what the USA coach said about their loss:

"We don't have a Memphis Depay right now, who's scoring in the Champions League," Berhalter said

"We have a very young group, we have players that are beginning in their careers and they're going to catch up to that"


The players I named have worldwide recognition, at the top of their game. Most of the players you named are up and coming.

Here is the estimated transfer value of the two teams:
Netherlands 756 million Euros
USA 365 million Euros

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...illion%20euros.


There is an excellent correlation between how many international stars you have and how well you perform.

At any one game, the likelihood that a team with more stars beats a team with fewer stars is higher than the reverse.







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[Karimi 8]

The thing that bothers me is, outside of our midfield we have decent squad depth. When our fitness is questionable, it’s odd that we didn’t rotate certain non-core players.

We chose our starting GK and CBs, Ezatolahi as CDM, and Taremi and Gholi as attackers, I get these choices they’re essential. But outside of this, we could’ve rotated for the US game given that we knew their high level of fitness and youth.

Why we didn’t play Sadegh / Shoja, Amiri, Ghoddos, Jalali earlier / at all is beyond me. Our midfield was entirely gassed therefore they dominated the center of the fields, our LB was non existent (we went through three before the best one came on!) Ramin was too focused on attack too defend the right side and the first half that side was entirely exposed, Azmoun was injured so we played with literally a man down, and Taremi had to do double the work since he had no partner.

I know it’s easy in our position to critique, and hindsight is 20/20 , but I just can’t get over these choices. And the biggest fault was that we came out playing for a draw. It’s football 101, play for a draw you play to lose. Play to win, and you can settle for a draw. I don’t get how letting them US have the ball and dominate play would benefit us, eventually they’d break through they’re not some B level Asian team, ans that’s what happened.

[a_m]

Frankie DeYoung (Barca) and Virgil VanDyke (Liverpool), Memphis Depay (Barca) and De Licht (Bayern Munich), and Dumfries (Inter).

That is why the Dutch beat USA and we didn't. Talent.



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You can have amazing players but you need to have a game plan that will actually work ..

[Damavand]

It’s so damn obvious the reason Netherlands beat the US so comfortably was their coach.

Granted he has good players but his lineup and tactics is what did it.

[PSGman#19]

It’s so damn obvious the reason Netherlands beat the US so comfortably was their coach.

Granted he has good players but his lineup and tactics is what did it.

Would have Van Gaal won against US with our squad?

[milad_b]

Would have Van Gaal won against US with our squad?

Yes. I dono why people still don't wanna accept the fact that CQ messed up big time! His lineup and game plan was sh!t

[Damavand]

Would have Van Gaal won against US with our squad?

I think very much likely, granted he has been our coach for a while.

[a_m]

CQ attacking game plan is just shot the ball and , hope Taremi or Sardar do something… that is it , he spends all of the training session discussing defense tactics

you saw those 2 goals Holland scored man they were training ground goals that the team had worked on , they scouted the American team found all the open spaces and put in the balls in those areas .. very simple that was it….

they knew this USA team can not score on open play, as long as your don’t make a mistakes defensively ,you saw the goal that they scored against Holland ACCIDENTALLY GOAL, the goal against us could have been easily defended against if mohammadi wasn’t out of position..

[koorosh]

A study on the effect of professional team success in North America show that the coach accounts for 20-30% of the success of the team, depending on the sport. You could argue that is the margin we needed to beat USA or that the gulf in quality/concentration/match readiness was too big...

Van Gaal in Iran would be a dream because half the team would be crying after the first practice and the whole team would be crying after game 1. He is not one to mince words and Iranian psyche can't handle his brutally honest style.

Of course no one in their right mind would come to Iran now. And no one in Iran will pick up the team either...

In fact CQ was on a per month contract...do you think a good manager would accept that?

Who wants to coach Iran in the middle of an uprising/revolution? Gotta be an opportunistic no-name.

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[Mahsaa]

Sardar said something after WC, he said our bodies were empty ....... we have to accept that some teams are prepared to play 7 matches at a WC and Iran still struggles to play 3 matches ..... when our own players say our bodies were finished what can we expect .

So the Coach was weak and the team too.

[ramingeles2000]

now that the disappointment of crashing out of the tournament has numbed a bit, i think that this was a completely reasonable WC outcome for us. look at the transfer value of our team vs. others in the WC. If we'd gone to the R16, we'd have the lowest transfer value of any other R16 team (by some margin).

no friendlies, country on fire, only 2-3 players getting regular playing time in europe, what was our expectation exactly? to 100% beat the US? CQs job is to prepare the team and put the players in a position to succeed by covering their weaknesses and trying to promote their qualities. the rest is up to the players. the reason we explode with happiness when TM wins a WC match is because on some deep level we know that a victory would be an overachievement.

we lost 1-0 to the US. that's a reasonable outcome. if we had some more luck, we would have tied and advanced and then the story would be "CQ is a genius...".

Considering all the factors against us (and the England game aside) this was an acceptable WC showing from Iran.

[milad_b]

France is a one man Team ! England is atleast a 5-6 man team. Just way too many stars in england that could change the game .
So my bet is that england will cancel Mbappe and win the game. I just don't see england losing to france in open play. Maybe in penalties.

[koorosh]

France is a one man Team ! England is atleast a 5-6 man team. Just way too many stars in england that could change the game .
So my bet is that england will cancel Mbappe and win the game. I just don't see england losing to france in open play. Maybe in penalties.

That game should be a semifinal! Giroud is scoring too(3 goals)...not just Mbappe (5 goals)...Griezmann and Dembele also contributing in supporting roles.

England defence is their weakest part. Will be an intriguing match. I see France pulling just ahead.

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