TM NEWS - VOL 8

[Essi]

Prowess jaan, as far as I know, this is a forum and supporting TM is not one of the guidelines. People need to be civil and abide by the guidelines that include avoiding personal attacks. I support our TM and after meeting with the mass-murderer Ebrahim Raeisi, they are no longer my TM, they are "teameh jomhooree-eh eslami". Taking those jubilant photos at this time don't help either. They look like a group of individuals who don't really care about their compatriots. I am standing for the day when we take our country back including our TM, with a coach who cares about women's and all human rights at a time that people are killed by IR forces on the streets everyday for the simple reason of demonstrating for freedom. Everything I said are within the guidelines and I have every right to post and participate.

Woman, Life, Freedom!
زن، زندگی، آزادی

Futbaldoost jan, please check your inbox.

[Futbaldoost]

I think he is trying to expose the virtue signaling that is being done by Sky Sports. Sky Sports is a private company, which means that their allegiance is to profit over all else. For a profit driven company, it is inherently hypocritical to imply that CQ is profit driven and therefore immoral (as they attempt to do with that question). The same logic immediately implies that Sky Sports is also immoral for being profit driven. To put the cherry on top, he takes his exposure of the market based reality further, and explicitly tries to make the question into a financial transaction between two profit driven entities. With this he means that Sky News has no actual interest in either the answer to that question, nor the rights of women in Iran; they are fishing for a headline quote, which will drive sales and generate profit in their favor.

koush22 jaan, regardless of what the intention of Sky Sports was, CQ had an opportunity to stand for women's and human rights in Iran and show that he is an honorable human being. His tactic was to avoid the question by making it sound like that everything is transactional that in a sense reduced the whole topic to a pure profit-driven discussion. This is just a diversion tactic to avoid answering the question so that you an I end up talking about Sky Sports intentions and their profit driven motives. An honorable and responsible human being could have said that regardless of what the Sky Sports motivations are, he supports the fundamental right of Iranian women and all people to strive for their human rights.

Woman, Life, Freedom!
زن، زندگی، آزادی

[kapenak]

I think it is somewhat telling that almost nobody inside of Iran wishes TM well. Almost all supporters are Iranian diaspora, many of whom are probably 2nd generation. It's insane to me ... I never thought such a day would come.

[Under Lahaf]

Good pint Surenas , didn't pay attention to the number of likes etc.
Personally I just hope majority stays behind these young players and have an understanding for their situation

Guys please. For the love of god stop discussing politics in this thread.
In addition to the general forum, there are multiple other threads in the football section.

I come to this thread to get updates on TM, not opinions about the protests.

کو گوش شنوا
anyways, anyone got any videos or clips from Qatar and Team Melli players & fans?

[diz]

I think it is somewhat telling that almost nobody inside of Iran wishes TM well. Almost all supporters are Iranian diaspora, many of whom are probably 2nd generation. It's insane to me ... I never thought such a day would come.

I'm curious as to how you reached this conclusion? Any nationwide poll from inside Iran you can provide here (social media posts notwithstanding)?

Also, just a little reminder that it was the Iranian diaspora you speak of that led the charge to cancel Iran vs. Canada friendly.

[Kian H]

I dont get it. Iran has played 3 games since the demonstrations started. In none of Them they sang the national anthem (other than Torabi and Amiri). Doesnt this show where they stand? That they support the people, that they dont want to sing the IR anthem. If they somehow end up singing it at the World cup, dont you Think they somehow are forced to do it? If not, why didnt they sing it the previous 3 times?
You Can then discuss what they are being pressured with to sing it. But facts is, that when they had the oppertunity to sing it the last 3 times they didnt, and that should show where they stand

[diz]

I dont get it. Iran has played 3 games since the demonstrations started. In none of Them they sang the national anthem (other than Torabi and Amiri). Doesnt this show where they stand? That they support the people, that they dont want to sing the IR anthem. If they somehow end up singing it at the World cup, dont you Think they somehow are forced to do it? If not, why didnt they sing it the previous 3 times?
You Can then discuss what they are being pressured with to sing it. But facts is, that when they had the oppertunity to sing it the last 3 times they didnt, and that should show where they stand

No to mention the dozens of social media posts of the player in support of the people and our women. These actions have all seemed to evaporate away as soon as there is a new hot take.

[Kian H]

No to mention the dozens of social media posts of the player in support of the people and our women. These actions have all seemed to evaporate away as soon as there is a new hot take.

Exactly and dont forget Sman Ghoddos comments. They ignore his comments and focus on the meeting only. It shows that people Pick and choose. Its like they want to hate. Like they want the players to support the IR, so they Can say we told you so. In these times its important to be objective and not letting the hate swallow you

[Medzdidz]

Samuel Eto’o has predicted that we will finish 2nd behind England.

Also Wales had to push back their training today due to struggling in the heat.

[diz]

Samuel Eto’o has predicted that we will finish 2nd behind England.

Also Wales had to push back their training today due to struggling in the heat.

Wow! Do you have a link to either of these?

Qatar desert heat may be the dark horse in this tournament!

[Kian H]

Another thing. As someone mentioned, people look at the comments on Instagram and forget the likes.
The latest photo has 7121 comments. Lets pretend that all of Them are negative towards TM. There are still 44.598 likes. Thats a Big different and im sure its not all the comments that are negative.

The previous photo has 14.946 comments. But has 92.750 likes. Come on guys. If you are using the comments as a proof that iranians dont support the team, then why are you ignoring the likes.

there is really too much cherry picking

[Medzdidz]

Wow! Do you have a link to either of these?

Qatar desert heat may be the dark horse in this tournament!

I mean he also predicted Cameroon will finish above Brazil so…😅

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comm...tm_name=iossmf

https://www.reddit.com/r/NewsAroundY...tm_name=iossmf

[koorosh]

koush22 jaan, regardless of what the intention of Sky Sports was, CQ had an opportunity to stand for women's and human rights in Iran and show that he is an honorable human being. His tactic was to avoid the question by making it sound like that everything is transactional that in a sense reduced the whole topic to a pure profit-driven discussion. This is just a diversion tactic to avoid answering the question so that you an I end up talking about Sky Sports intentions and their profit driven motives. An honorable and responsible human being could have said that regardless of what the Sky Sports motivations are, he supports the fundamental right of Iranian women and all people to strive for their human rights.

Woman, Life, Freedom!
زن، زندگی، آزادی

This is very harsh and judgemental. Do you know CQ and can vouch that he is not an honorable human being?

I am certain that if he had had as much time as you to think over an answer, he would come up with something much better than the poor response that he came up with, in the spur of the moment being caught off guard by a vicious question.

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[milad_b]

Wow! Do you have a link to either of these?

Qatar desert heat may be the dark horse in this tournament!

the game against wales is at 13:00 local time ..... Wonder how the welsh player gonna cope with that.

They delayed their training session to 2 hours because the weather was 34*C . They delayed it so the weather would be below 30*C.

https://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...nce-since-1958

[ABalls]

koush22 jaan, regardless of what the intention of Sky Sports was, CQ had an opportunity to stand for women's and human rights in Iran and show that he is an honorable human being. His tactic was to avoid the question by making it sound like that everything is transactional that in a sense reduced the whole topic to a pure profit-driven discussion. This is just a diversion tactic to avoid answering the question so that you an I end up talking about Sky Sports intentions and their profit driven motives. An honorable and responsible human being could have said that regardless of what the Sky Sports motivations are, he supports the fundamental right of Iranian women and all people to strive for their human rights.

Woman, Life, Freedom!
زن، زندگی، آزادی

I believe you, and honestly many others, misunderstood CQ's response.

The reporter asked a yes or no question based on the premise that "Iran oppresses the rights of women". CQ's response, essentially, was if you want me to make or validate political statements for you then you should pay me.

Terrible leading question by the reporter. CQ's English didn't do his response any favors. The reporter knew what he was doing. Journalism is fact finding, and this was a BS "gotcha" question that CQ caught. Props to him, smart guy.