IRAN VS ENGLAND POST GAME

[zereshk-ali]

As many have rightly mentioned, so many f*ck ups in that line up.

Not starting Ezzatollahi first of all. But then also not starting him when you’re sitting deep and trying to protect a lead and then bringing him on when the game opens up the second half and his lack of pace gets exposed.

Southgate also totally outfoxed him by starting with a back 4.

Is Amiri injured? I just can’t understand how you would leave him out of this game entirely otherwise.

[Iman_Joon]

Mehdi Taremi on Swedish television: Let’s talk about football… (not about how everything has affected the team)

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/video/375...ata-om-fotboll

[Kavian]

No question that lineup was a total fck up on part of CQ.

Players out of the blue appearing on the line up who have not been used in friendlies or haven't really shown convincing performance. Like PAG, MILO, Karimi and Cheshmi and then those who were used like Jalali sat on the bench. Just don't get the logic!

That being said about the lineup, this England team was so good and so powerful that no matter who was in or who was out, the result would have been more or less the same. They over-powered us and we had no answer. They played football and we played this other game call bezan ziresh dadash!! Big gap in level and quality and the score rightfully showed that. Can we recover, perhaps! but this underlines how backward football is in our country. Football is not magic, is science!

[Kavian]

Guys I don't think at all that bisharaf chant was against our players. I had a lot of friends in the stadium and apparently there were brawls with pro IR people there. The team was actually heavily cheered everytime they attacked or scored.

Good to know!

[Abtin]

Mehdi Taremi on Swedish television: Let’s talk about football… (not about how everything has affected the team)

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/video/375...ata-om-fotboll

Can't be viewed outside Sweden.

[Farzadfarhangni]

A few things that I keep seeing that I totally disagree with.

1) Hossein Hosseini was not responsible for any of the goals. I don't think the best goalkeeper in the world would have saved any of these goals. Nothing against Beriranvand, but in his one situation while he was playing, he came out, barely got a faint touch to the ball, ran into Hosseini/broke his nose and almost got scored on. I don't recall Hosseini making any mistake. I am fine with Hosseini or Beironvand or Abedzadeh next game but lets not look for easy scapegoats...

2) I don't know what people see in Ezatolahi's game. He should not even practice with TM when he is in this shape. He does not run, is slow and foul prone in dangerous areas. I would 100% like to split DM duties between AK and Cheshmi for the rest of the tournament.

3) Milad was put in the game today for his defensive abilities which he performed fairly well. I don't know why we kept passing to him in a tight spot and expect him to find a creative solution to get out of the messy situation. I think in the next two games, we'll use either Jalali or Hajsafi cause we need more offensive from our lb.

[FeLFeL]

WTF was CQ thinking today with that line up? Cheshmi doesn't even deserve to be in the roster, he was horrible. If we go out like predetermined losers in front of England, then what are we really expecting the end result to be? We should've played without fear from the beginning, I guarantee you it would've yielded better results or a loss by 1 or two goals at most, and we would've played a game we would've all been proud of.

[PSGman#19]

A few things that I keep seeing that I totally disagree with.

1) Hossein Hosseini was not responsible for any of the goals. I don't think the best goalkeeper in the world would have saved any of these goals. Nothing against Beriranvand, but in his one situation while he was playing, he came out, barely got a faint touch to the ball, ran into Hosseini/broke his nose and almost got scored on. I don't recall Hosseini making any mistake. I am fine with Hosseini or Beironvand or Abedzadeh next game but lets not look for easy scapegoats...

2) I don't know what people see in Ezatolahi's game. He should not even practice with TM when he is in this shape. He does not run, is slow and foul prone in dangerous areas. I would 100% like to split DM duties between AK and Cheshmi for the rest of the tournament.

3) Milad was put in the game today for his defensive abilities which he performed fairly well. I don't know why we kept passing to him in a tight spot and expect him to find a creative solution to get out of the messy situation. I think in the next two games, we'll use either Jalali or Hajsafi cause we need more offensive from our lb.

1) Hosseini didn't do any save, didn't even move on some goals, Beiro exit and him in goal made the defense more shaky.

2) watch the pass he can do vs the rest that can even complete an easy pass. The guy had some laser pass that lead to some of our offense

3) jalali is just a typical IPL player that isn't really for the high level (yet?), cf the penalty and red card against mighty Tunisia

[Sam van Dam]

I am so proud of Taremi. in 2018 i was very upset when he missed that shot vs portugal, but he has improved these past 4 years. he was very calm when scoring his first goal. the replay showed him with his head up before he shot the ball. he has matured into a world class player. the way he tried to calm the team down showed his leadership. we are lucky to have him and i hope he will continue to score big goals for us this tournament.

[Rooyintan]

All I can say is maybe Wales and USA think Iran will be easy and overlook us??
But from the very beginning, that lineup was very odd and just not right.
CQ messed up there.. You need to play with the guys that got you there.
Kanani, Ezza, Amiri, and even Jalali should've started over guys like Cheshmi, Milmo, Karimi.
Hoping Beiro is healthy for the next game.. It shows now how clear cut better he is than our other keepers.

I think he deliberately chose that lineup.

1. He did not want to put Torabi and Amiri as starters, because perhaps as a team decided that all will stand silent during the anthem. We know that Torabi and Amiri would have sang the anthem.

2. He wanted to surprise England putting an unfamiliar starting lineup in order to confuse them, however unfortunately things did not work out the way he planned. Beiranvand looked so unmotivated. Cheshmi and Majid Hosseini were so clumsy. Karimi perhaps still not physically fit.

3. Possibly he wanted Azmoun, Ezatollahi, Khalilzadeh, Kanaani etc to rest and be fit for other matches. Although 3 of these eventually came on and played some minutes.

4. I guess CQ wanted to park the bus like the games versus Nigeria and Argentina in 2014 but things backfired this time.

5. Goal Keeper Hosseini did very bad. Most other Iran's reserve keepers such as Nakisa (1998 WC), Haghighi (2014 WC), Roudbarian (in 2007 Asia Cup), Ahmadi (in 2014 WCQ) did great.

[Ostad_Goosfand]

Couple things. I dont want to talk about fans, just the game

1) The reality is, our team is actually solid. We beat Uruguay 1-0, we drew Senegal 1-1. we know we are not bad. even in past, argentina 0-1, spain 0-1, portugal 1-1.

Unfortunately, these opponents are very different than England. England, france, germany, netherlands, play more direct, fast, physical than spanish or portuguese and south americans. we have barely any experience vs UEFA teams like that, let alone the more physical ones. our friendlies are all against more technical teams, or african and south american, so this group was always going to be a struggle, since wales and usa are also very physical

2) ok point 2 now. under CQ we have gotten lucky and unlucky. today it was unlucky.

vs argentina and morocco, it was lucky at first., they almost scored vs us early and could have killed the game. the longer the game went, the more conifdent we got.

Today, we had massive injury to our goalie, he goes out. it ruined our composure. even CQ looked shook. and then bellingham scored a nice header and it was the earliest we got scored on in awhile under CQ, and we all know there is no plan B and we cannot come back. so long story short, that is the CQ method. if it works, the team becomes better as the game goes. if it doesnt work, then it is a disaster like today

3) the lineup. ok lets talk notable omissions. kanaani not there, he came on halftime and tbh he looked just ok. better than cheshmi but still not great. ali karimi started over eza. eza came on second half and was much better, more touches, good defending for most part.....but also got tired after like 20 min. so the lineup CQ got wrong, but its not like the subs were massive difference makers except Eza for 20 min and then Torobche looked pretty solid

4) So what is next? well. we need a new goalie if Beiro cant go. beiro is much better than abedzadeh but hosseini dosnt have composure for world cup. we can use abedzadeh confidence.

-we need runners. amiri, torobche, should probably start.

-eza should start, and just take him out 2nd half when he is gassed.

-Ansarifard is better starting option upfront than JB IMO, i would start him if sardar is not fit, otherwise sardar.

-for defense, i just think you gotta swap it out. the center backs have no confidence. start Shoja and kanaani and hope their experience together can help. they will be sloppy in possession but they will defend like warriors (remember, this is first WC for them, they have more motivation).

anyway. the 6-2 is awful but it is because everything went wrong. injury, lineup, and early banger goal from england. every goal they scored in first half was a banger, usually Beiro saves most or some go out. england xG was like 2.3 and they got 6 today

i think we will be ok in match 2 if boys can mentally recover. go team

[The]

Couple things. I dont want to talk about fans, just the game

1) The reality is, our team is actually solid. We beat Uruguay 1-0, we drew Senegal 1-1. we know we are not bad. even in past, argentina 0-1, spain 0-1, portugal 1-1.

Unfortunately, these opponents are very different than England. England, france, germany, netherlands, play more direct, fast, physical than spanish or portuguese and south americans. we have barely any experience vs UEFA teams like that, let alone the more physical ones. our friendlies are all against more technical teams, or african and south american, so this group was always going to be a struggle, since wales and usa are also very physical

2) ok point 2 now. under CQ we have gotten lucky and unlucky. today it was unlucky.

vs argentina and morocco, it was lucky at first., they almost scored vs us early and could have killed the game. the longer the game went, the more conifdent we got.

Today, we had massive injury to our goalie, he goes out. it ruined our composure. even CQ looked shook. and then bellingham scored a nice header and it was the earliest we got scored on in awhile under CQ, and we all know there is no plan B and we cannot come back. so long story short, that is the CQ method. if it works, the team becomes better as the game goes. if it doesnt work, then it is a disaster like today

3) the lineup. ok lets talk notable omissions. kanaani not there, he came on halftime and tbh he looked just ok. better than cheshmi but still not great. ali karimi started over eza. eza came on second half and was much better, more touches, good defending for most part.....but also got tired after like 20 min. so the lineup CQ got wrong, but its not like the subs were massive difference makers except Eza for 20 min and then Torobche looked pretty solid

4) So what is next? well. we need a new goalie if Beiro cant go. beiro is much better than abedzadeh but hosseini dosnt have composure for world cup. we can use abedzadeh confidence.

-we need runners. amiri, torobche, should probably start.

-eza should start, and just take him out 2nd half when he is gassed.

-Ansarifard is better starting option upfront than JB IMO, i would start him if sardar is not fit, otherwise sardar.

-for defense, i just think you gotta swap it out. the center backs have no confidence. start Shoja and kanaani and hope their experience together can help. they will be sloppy in possession but they will defend like warriors (remember, this is first WC for them, they have more motivation).

anyway. the 6-2 is awful but it is because everything went wrong. injury, lineup, and early banger goal from england. every goal they scored in first half was a banger, usually Beiro saves most or some go out. england xG was like 2.3 and they got 6 today

i think we will be ok in match 2 if boys can mentally recover. go team

I agree with a lot of what you said, but think the scoreline would be the same with any goalie in the net.

The problem was in the midfield and Defence

[IranPuma]

I was referring to usa vs wales game, feels like a draw. Usa make a speedy goal and wales hot a freekick or something.

6 pts would ve great. And doable if we play more like vs uruguay or possibly use 2 attackers aswell, compared to this strange lineup today. I would like to se Karim Ghoddos Azmoun and Taremi play at the same time, with Ezza Amiri Torabi. Kaanani Shoja and Rezaian/Moh. Jb of the bench as supersub

Holy shit 😂😂😂 spot on

[Ostad_Goosfand]

I agree with a lot of what you said, but think the scoreline would be the same with any goalie in the net.

The problem was in the midfield and Defence

yes that is 100% the issue, i still think beiro would save 1-2 of the goals.


we should realize how weak our midfield is. 2014 we had neko, ando, dejagah. 2018 we had fit and young ezatolahi for 2 of the games, amiri who ran like a horse, and ebrahimi who also worked his socks off.

now we have fat Eza. out of form ali karimi, average nourollahi, and old and injured amiri. we must play ghoddos next game, hes all we have. dont care if he gets outmuscled off ball

[Hosseini]

Just like he let poor Salah down with defensive strategies. I see no change from CQ. Our hope will be for a Wales or USA own goal.

CQ 3 WC thus far 12 GA and 5 GF. 5 GF in 3 WC is very poor stat. Albeit he has 2 games to change this.

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Let's wait a bit until the Wales and US game to make concrete judgements. This is CQ's moment. He messed up versus England for sure - will admit it, but it's certainly not over and there is an opportunity for redemption if he makes the right adjustments in GM 2 and GM 3.