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    Originally posted by BacheLot View Post
    last night against my better judgment watched our game again...well most of it... dozed off in 2nd half for few min...

    my observation on 2nd viewing w/o the emotions of the live game day

    biggest reasons behind our piss poor embarrassing performance ..

    1-Extremely Poor Starting Line-ups Selection by CQ:
    especially so considering the formidability of our opposition and taking into account their strength and weakness...!
    Leaving on the Bench our most formidable CB duo Kannani/Shoja, our most in-form, speedy and high work-rate , physically stout CM/Wingers Amiri and Torabi..! our most composed and high caliber, well experienced CM/CDM combo of Ezzat and Samman ..! starting our least in-form, struggling LB..MilMo ... Moving a rusty, outa form CB PAG to an unfamiliar positon of more of a winger/wingback/CM? Opting to Start with the Slow poke CM AK who hasnt suited up for TM in years..!, opting to start at CB our least in-tune with each other and erratic CB combo of Cheshmi & the often overrated Hossaini..! etc . etc
    (Perhaps he wanted so bad that his team to show solidarity with our people by None of them signing the anthem and that forced his hand into making such a bizarre team selection at Kickoff..??)

    2-Poor, bordering Delusional Overall Tactical Game Plan: Way too spread out, Not Nearly Compact enough all around leaving gaps and large spaces for the dangerous and formidable opponent to exploit and that they sure did..!!
    it almost seemed to me that he was trying to play the SC Porto's High-Press tactical game plans while expecting all his players to retrieve back to crowd up our defensive half of the pitch after losing possession ?? really stupid game plan considering how we simply lack the team fitness and speed to pull off especially with scrub starters vs an opponent who is best suited to exploit it's weaknesses..! it all led to way too many half assish High Press by boys which English backline easily worked their way out of and then had acers of space to exploit behind us on counter before we could get back to re-organize the parked bus..!
    we specially miserably failed in Crowding up /Defending down wide areas, WB spots allowing England wingers to have many combination plays and run/cross into our box and cause chaotic situations..!

    3- Next comes down to individual errors which all have been discussed en-mass here..!!
    The one thing that has seem to slip many folks earlier commentary in this regard is how piss poor was the Overall man-marking and Defensive miscues of Sadegh..!! His mistakes played a vital role in conceding the first 3 goals....! the first 2 of which really broke our back and open the floodgates for more to come..!
    Fall asleep and switches off for a moment and allowed the English winger plenty of space to send in the cross which Belingham put away to start the rape party..!
    Retarded effort to sloppy pass his way outa high press of english down RW, his pass gets intercepted and sent right back, he sprints back and makes the last ditch effort to clear the dangerous chance into by lines , conceding the CK which we concede the 2nd goal from..!
    Switches off again and Fails to man mark the goal scorer near him when English hit us on the counter after our failed attempt to press them up high.... leading to easy unchallenged shot on our goal from close range against dud and already shell-shocked hossaini..!
    I agree with your points, especially the first 2.

    Agree that Sadegh was mistake prone, but what didn't help is Cheshmi not being able to win a single aerial battle.
    I think we're also very much discounting how much Beiranvand's loss f***ed the team up. He yells and commandeers the defensive line whereas Hosseini was quiet and pretty much never came off his line.

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      I wonder what CQ did the last weeks in the camp to have such an abysmal performance.

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        I would sacrifice my left nut for TM to once in my lifetime perform like the Saudis did today..

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          Originally posted by Camran khan View Post
          I would sacrifice my left nut for TM to once in my lifetime perform like the Saudis did today..
          Very frustrating to see others perform well and us having to eat all the shit and overall tokhmi results in all our wc.

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            Originally posted by Nokhodi View Post
            I think we're also very much discounting how much Beiranvand's loss f***ed the team up. He yells and commandeers the defensive line whereas Hosseini was quiet and pretty much never came off his line.
            This is why I hope Beiranvand's injury isn't too serious - hopefully, he can still play in TM's remaining games.

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              What happened to Abedzadeh? Was expecting to see him replace Beiranvand and I think he would've played better

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                Originally posted by Under Lahaf View Post
                What happened to Abedzadeh? Was expecting to see him replace Beiranvand and I think he would've played better
                He killed us against SK and Algeria. He isn't good at all since that moment. our 3 back up GK aren't good enough

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                  Okay this English team was way better than any team we have faced before. Young fast superstars at the beginning of their careers vs a bunch of older Spain and Portugal players at the end of their careers. Both of those teams lost in the first round of the playoffs. Throw in turmoil, and lousy set up and no wonder we got blown out. The US Wales tie was much more important than the score of our game. Assuming England beats these two teams Iran goes through with a tie and a win and goal difference does not matter. This English team will be undefeated in this round so we have a better chance of going through than before. But that starting line up, CQ might be losing it.

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                      Originally posted by PSGman#19 View Post

                      He killed us against SK and Algeria. He isn't good at all since that moment. our 3 back up GK aren't good enough
                      He is way too skittish; he clearly makes defenders nervous. I guess he is the best we have at the moment though...
                      The obscure we see eventually. The completely obvious, it seems, takes longer. ~Edward R. Murrow

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                        Originally posted by Camran khan View Post
                        I would sacrifice my left nut for TM to once in my lifetime perform like the Saudis did today..

                        Chetori dadash. Back for the world cup!? Haha honestly if we had the home team advantage like Saudi i.e. Our people supported the team, we could have done it!!

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                          Originally posted by Abtin View Post

                          Saudi league is better than the iranian on many aspects. No need to discuss that. Their regime is not a virus on level of IR, and cares about investments.
                          If you watched the game, it was crystal clear their fitness leven was above the iranian team, they were synced as an actual team.
                          Bro, the last time we lost so badly in a competitive match, we didn't even have a national league!

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                            Originally posted by AmirSalar View Post
                            This is disgusting. How embarrassing.

                            https://twitter.com/mlhobbyist/statu...GPcnWm4hlqtVNQ
                            I've watched the entire match in detail again and this very local and isolated incident was around minute 85 when we were losing 5-1.

                            Is it disgusting and embarrassing? I don't know but this shit happens in football, especially when you're losing by that margin in an atrocious performance.

                            The overwhelming majority of the fans were supporting the team even at that point.
                            Last edited by Bi-honar; 11-22-2022, 09:35 AM.

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                              Originally posted by Ahmad_DC View Post
                              Okay this English team was way better than any team we have faced before. Young fast superstars at the beginning of their careers vs a bunch of older Spain and Portugal players at the end of their careers. Both of those teams lost in the first round of the playoffs. Throw in turmoil, and lousy set up and no wonder we got blown out. The US Wales tie was much more important than the score of our game. Assuming England beats these two teams Iran goes through with a tie and a win and goal difference does not matter. This English team will be undefeated in this round so we have a better chance of going through than before. But that starting line up, CQ might be losing it.

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                                Originally posted by Bi-honar View Post

                                I've watched the entire match in detail again and this very local and isolated incident was around minute 85 when we were losing 5-1.

                                Is it disgusting and embarrassing? I don't know but this shit happens in football, especially when you're losing by that margin in an atrocious performance.

                                The overwhelming majority of the fans were supporting the team even at that point.
                                But did CQ give the finger back? Why stoop to that level? Fans are wrong but fans are also idiots at time.

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