Last day group B scenarios

[Iran_19]

England is through. No matter what, worst case as 2nd behind usa if usa beat us.
Even if they lose 0-1 to Wales in case of tie between Iran and usa. Wales goes through with england.
That is a bit of concern. Not sure they will send their main squad vs Wales and play as hard.

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[KasraKhan]

Reposting my post in the other thread:

They will surely send their A lineup. They can still get 2nd place if they dont win, but TM does. They will be playing for 1st place.

Also, England's backup wingers may be better than their starters (Foden, Grealish and Rashford). Even if they do field a few subs, there isnt much of a drop off

[BacheLot]

we just need to have a generally cautious and counter attacking set up .... keep abreast of other game result and if need be push for win later on in 2nd half ... !!

it absolutely paramount that CQ gets his starting line up right..!! we probably could use a fresh legs from Amiri and at least Kannani gotta be back in the Starting CB mix ..! Poor Sammy probably wont see a minute this WC..!! ?:/

YOU GOTTA HAVE PLAYERS OUT THERE WHO CAN HUSTLE AND PLAY WITH MUCH INTENSITY AND SMARTS..!

[Rooyintan]

England collected 4 pts already and have a 4+ goal difference, they might make a deal with Wales as they both would want Iran and USA eliminated. If Wales win would have 4 pts, if USA vs Iran is a tie then Wales going through to Round of 16 would depend on goal difference which currently equals Iran -2, although Iran won Wales so on Head-To-Head and goals scored so far being 4 Iran might still have an advantage.

Iran vs USA

Iran has to win and should aim for at least 2:0 or 2-goal deficit score.

If USA wins they'll have 5 pts, if USA ties that'll give them 3 pts so they would have better goal difference than Iran.

[O-ZoNe]

Reposting my post in the other thread:

They will surely send their A lineup. They can still get 2nd place if they dont win, but TM does. They will be playing for 1st place.

Also, England's backup wingers may be better than their starters (Foden, Grealish and Rashford). Even if they do field a few subs, there isnt much of a drop off

Today's lineup mirrored CQs England lineup. Southgate is toothless and wanted to play safe riding 6 goal momentum. How foden gets no match time as arguably the best England player is beyond me...

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[a_m]

England collected 4 pts already and have a 4+ goal difference, they might make a deal with Wales as they both would want Iran and USA eliminated. If Wales win would have 4 pts, if USA vs Iran is a tie then Wales going through to Round of 16 would depend on goal difference which currently equals Iran -2, although Iran won Wales so on Head-To-Head and goals scored so far being 4 Iran might still have an advantage.

Iran vs USA

Iran has to win and should aim for at least 2:0 or 2-goal deficit score.

If USA wins they'll have 5 pts, if USA ties that'll give them 3 pts so they would have better goal difference than Iran.

Yes sir …

- US needs a win or they’re out there’s no other way for them … not even a tie will help them


-Wales needs to beat England .. hope Iran and USA tie ..

so you see so far how both USA and wales need a win or they out , tie is no good for either one of them


Iran ,only needs a tie as long as wales doesn’t win.

England is going lose tie or win..

so yea this is the complicated part about it cause

we all clearly saw how today England helped the USA by not playing.. so yes

the only way to prevent England form acting unsportsmanlike is for Iran to beat USA and we don’t need to worry about anything like that …

[oracle]

England with a tie against wales
secure first place,
if england would of beat on us
Than england would entertain to help wales, but since they need a only tie, they won't help wales.

Iran vs us
Is a tie
We go through

[KasraKhan]

England with a tie against wales
secure first place,
if england would of beat on us
Than england would entertain to help wales, but since they need a only tie, they won't help wales.

Iran vs us
Is a tie
We go through

Oracle jan, if England ties Wales, England can still get 2nd if Iran beats USA. (Iran will have 6 points, and England will have 5 points).

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[KasraKhan]

Thanks for sharing, great visualization ^

[oracle]

Oracle jan, if England ties Wales, England can still get 2nd if Iran beats USA. (Iran will have 6 points, and England will have 5 points).

Yes
when I said one tie that's minimum,
With all the result going iran way since game 2 of this group
England will beat Wales
iran will tie us

[Rooyintan]

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If Iran somehow finishes top of the group, that will be Iran's greatest win over England.

[aariaa]

If Iran draws US. Wales need to win over England by only one goal. If we want to guarantee advancing from the group. We need to win. Draw is not enough

[Artaxerxes]

As long as we dont LOSE to USA i think we are through, because England MUST win to be guranteed the 1st place and avoid Holland in R16, if England ties Wales and we win against USA we will top the group and probably face Ecuador.

But Yeah, to get rid all agar va amma just win against USA.

What do you guys think? I think Holland would suit us better than Equador or is it just me?

[persianballer]

Get ready to park the bus 😂