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(29.11.22) FIFA World Cup 2022 MD3: Iran - USA; Info, Updates & Live Reports

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    #46
    Originally posted by ben.walken View Post

    Statistically with CQ we always play better in the 2nd half. If we managed to get out of the 1st half 0-0 or somehow get a goal advantage then we will be in good shape. I’m personally not concerned about tiredness this time around as CQ has been rotating players the past 2 games, so I won’t be surprised seeing 5-6 changes in the line up against the US. If anything, I think fatigue will impact USMNT more than us as they will likely field the same starting 11.
    Agreed, if this is the case with Amiri, Torabo, and Ghoddos then I'll truly respect our weird line up vs England should this all work itself out and US looks drained

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      #47
      Originally posted by ben.walken View Post

      Statistically with CQ we always play better in the 2nd half. If we managed to get out of the 1st half 0-0 or somehow get a goal advantage then we will be in good shape. I’m personally not concerned about tiredness this time around as CQ has been rotating players the past 2 games, so I won’t be surprised seeing 5-6 changes in the line up against the US. If anything, I think fatigue will impact USMNT more than us as they will likely field the same starting 11.
      I don't think that applies to big (decisive) games where we choke most of the times. For example game against Japan (3-0) , argentina (1-0) or even spain (1-0). I don't want to be negative but please please don't underestimate USA. They have a great team that could do some serious damage to us.

      One thing that no one here can argue is that USA have been better team than their opponent in their 2 previous games.

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        #48
        I think the one thing this world cup has shown, is that you CANNOT extrapolate results from one game to the next.

        Argentina loses to Saudia Arabia 2-1, but then beats Mexico 2-0. We get trounced by England, but then beat Wales 2-0, etc

        That being said, if the players stay mentally sharp, we DON’T play ultra-defensive, and CQ is quick to makes changes if the lineup is not working, getting at least a draw will be very, very doable.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Prowess View Post
          I think the one thing this world cup has shown, is that you CANNOT extrapolate results from one game to the next.

          Argentina loses to Saudia Arabia 2-1, but then beats Mexico 2-0. We get trounced by England, but then beat Wales 2-0, etc

          That being said, if the players stay mentally sharp, we DON’T play ultra-defensive, and CQ is quick to makes changes if the lineup is not working, getting at least a draw will be very, very doable.
          If you recall, Mexico wasn't great during the qualifications. Canada beat them at home and drew in Mexico. So they are not a strong team this time around. SA can beat them with a good strategy.

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            #50
            Originally posted by milad_b View Post
            I don't like the fact that some people are under estimating the USA team. They are far better than England.

            They are physical <-- Something we always strugle with​ .
            They are tactical,
            They are used to the heat,
            They are fast,
            They know how to open up the DF line.

            So please please dont understimate them.

            I have feeling tiredness will get us in the game against USA.

            Btw does anyone know what color shirt we will be wearing against them? Hopefully its White.
            They're far better than England? 😂😂

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              #51
              Originally posted by maly3648 View Post

              They definitely deserve credit, they are stronger than before but if Iran plays at its regular level, Iran is objectively stronger. Actually, all asian team levels, beside Qatar got stronger and is above Africa today. Beside few European top level teams, like France, Germany, Belgium or England, Asian level is inches away from Europe. Look what Saudis, Japan, Korea or Australia are doing against European "average" teams.

              USA is not bad, they have potential but they are not accurate. From individual standpoint ? Are you serious ? They have a few young kids who run fast and you talk about "talent" ? They are still far of having the talent of guys like Taremi, Azmoun, Jahabksht, Ghoddos, Golizadeh if they play at their proper level.

              We don't need counterattacks, Azmoun and Taremi are physically much stronger, only with their physical strength, their defenders will fall like flies. We can shoot at distance, head on corners or centers, technically beat them, we have plenty of ways to score against them. Do you really think we will play only counterattacks against such a team ? You are talking as if USA is Brazil.

              Even on paper, Wales is objectively stronger than them, if you analyse where their players are playing (quality of the teams). They qualified from EUROPE continent from a very tough groupe while USA qualified in the weakest continent.
              Yeah this is ridiculous overconfidence. Like I almost respect how overconfident you are haha

              United States on paper is a better team than Iran and IMHO its not close. I am not gonna try to address each point cuz then I would have to write an essay.

              Their midfield trio is Tyler Adams (young star for Leeds United), Weston Mckinnie (good player for Juventus), Yunus Mensah (Could have played for England, chose USA instead, Gareth Southgate talked about what a big loss it was). Comparing our midfield to theirs is like comparing a recently built bmw to a PT cruiser.

              We have an advantage in striker position (taremi or azmoun would easily start for them). I would say defence is a slight edge for USA; Ream and Dest have strong European experience (they definitely will NOT "fall like flies"). Goalkeeper I would again give US the advantage (turner, while a bench warmer, is on Arsenal).

              Also wtf are you saying we dont need counterattacks?? That's literally how CQ plans out our attack! That'd be like saying to a spanish team dont focus so much on possession play lol

              I'm not trying to say Iran has no chance. This US team is super inexperienced and it shows all the time; they get can get flustered and lose their heads. The fact that we can aim for a tie whereas US has to go for a win is a huge advantage for CQ. If Ezatolahi and Nourallahi play like they did against wales then we are cooking with gas.

              The obscure we see eventually. The completely obvious, it seems, takes longer. ~Edward R. Murrow

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                #52
                Relax usa has a terrible record in the third group game at the wc. The only time they won was against algeria in 2010.

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                  #53
                  Hopefully CQ will know exactly how to approach this game, knowing a draw is enough 🤞

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                    #54
                    Sorry guys. We draw and wales beats england then we are out. We have to win.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by mbaizai View Post
                      Sorry guys. We draw and wales beats england then we are out. We have to win.
                      wouldn't be sure of that, England has a lot to proove, else they will be made fun of "you could only bean Iran, what else?", + they can risk becoming 2nd if Iran win and they draw.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Ghermez Agha View Post

                          indeed we are. USA has world class players, facilities and top notch athleticsm. The speed that they bring to the pitch will be the hardest task of all time for our TM to face. We ARE the underdogs!
                          Check the summary reports. Our players are faster.

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                              #59
                              I hope our players are fit for the 90 minutes, it was a hard game against Wales, maybe CQ had a reason to rest Kanani,Amiri,Ghoddos...... but i hope all players are fit and he plays the best line up

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by mf_doom View Post

                                Yeah this is ridiculous overconfidence. Like I almost respect how overconfident you are haha

                                United States on paper is a better team than Iran and IMHO its not close. I am not gonna try to address each point cuz then I would have to write an essay.

                                Their midfield trio is Tyler Adams (young star for Leeds United), Weston Mckinnie (good player for Juventus), Yunus Mensah (Could have played for England, chose USA instead, Gareth Southgate talked about what a big loss it was). Comparing our midfield to theirs is like comparing a recently built bmw to a PT cruiser.

                                We have an advantage in striker position (taremi or azmoun would easily start for them). I would say defence is a slight edge for USA; Ream and Dest have strong European experience (they definitely will NOT "fall like flies"). Goalkeeper I would again give US the advantage (turner, while a bench warmer, is on Arsenal).

                                Also wtf are you saying we dont need counterattacks?? That's literally how CQ plans out our attack! That'd be like saying to a spanish team dont focus so much on possession play lol

                                I'm not trying to say Iran has no chance. This US team is super inexperienced and it shows all the time; they get can get flustered and lose their heads. The fact that we can aim for a tie whereas US has to go for a win is a huge advantage for CQ. If Ezatolahi and Nourallahi play like they did against wales then we are cooking with gas.
                                I didn't feel like having to break this down for him, but well said lol

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