Team melli next head coach candidates

[oracle]

As pfdc oracle AND MY ORIGINAL TITLE OF KATEB E TEAM MELLO
Let history remember the truth
Cq came back with tm and stayed in iran
for few days...ferdosipour was not available for interview,

tm missed advancing from its group in Asian cup
it's the biggest catastrophe in tm history ,
#stop hiding tm facts

[oracle]

Heyfeh CQ lost on penalties in AFCON and Wcq playoff then these haters would learn about what they missed out on, finishing with one point at best in the WC with Skocic

Let them hate lol
facts and history and situations in history
While things happen, WILL MAKE THESE haters
LOOK LIKE ARMANI BAdmjoon using norafkan as his surprise cb.

my 2023 NY prayer be haghe agha jisis
I wish all the people who have been butt hurt
Beacause of Armani bademjon departure,
Fast speedy recovery in this coming year..

[O-ZoNe]

Heyfeh CQ lost on penalties in AFCON and Wcq playoff then these haters would learn about what they missed out on, finishing with one point at best in the WC with Skocic

More agar and shayad? Yep, if CQ won WC with Iran even I would call him the world's greatest coach. Lots of ifs ands and buts.

Cq supporters...here is an old time idiom you should learn to memorize by now..."if buts and maybes were candy and nuts we would all have a merry Xmas!"

With CQ always a dollar short and a day late...keep dreaming folks.

Cq record since 2011

5 tournament fails with Iran.
2 back to back fails with Egypt against same opponent
Failure with Colombia.

Min 8 tournaments not a single success...big fat 0. But but but if he had won won of those...
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[peiman92]

Heyfeh CQ lost on penalties in AFCON and Wcq playoff then these haters would learn about what they missed out on, finishing with one point at best in the WC with Skocic

You know why he keeps losing those games?
He lacks the winning mentality needed. All talk but no action. He thinks of himself of a top 20 coach (lol) but has only failed lol.

[peiman92]

Peyman wants
parviz mazlumi head coach
Ibrahim Tahami modir fani(ageh tehronia bezaran)
Haj fat so sarparast.

This is peyman starting line up

Hosseini
daneshmand moradmand yazdani salmani
Mehdipor Omid ebrahimi
Kaveh rezaie. Ghaedi
Peyman babaie. Arslan motaheri

Haha that lineup would have probably done a better job against England & USA than your beloved CQ lineup.

[O-ZoNe]

Dejagah Gucci and Ghoddos would not have joined TM if it wasn't for CQ

This is a fact. Farzad you can revise history. These players said they were actively getting recruited by CQ HARD and rejected prior invitations from GN, atleast in Gucci's case

Before CQ, Iran's lineups: aging Kaebi, aging Zandi, aging Mahdavikia, aging Hashemian, all washed out players people like Ghotbi had to rely on

Missed out on 2010 WC to fucking North Korea

During CQ: brought the cream of the crop and an entirely new swath of players on his watch. Taremi, Dejagah, Gucci, Azmoun, Saeed, Beiro, Majid Hosseini, Amiri

Two WCQ in a row. Third one with his cohort of players

Skocic didn't introduce one new player that got consistent minutes other than Nourafkhan in his two years

If CQ had 11 messi he would still park the bus prob field 10 players and leave one home and still get the same failed results. Couldn't maximize James, Salah, va va va. Just go see what guys like Salah said about him. Surely we can all admit Salah is a world class talent.

Doesn't matter who CQ finds and what he does...he is destined for failure. No plan B 1 dimensional play to not lose mentality...sorry I mean play to "learn" mentality since CQ doesn't believe his team's can lose. Lol joke of a coach pulling wool over some folks eyes.

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[peiman92]

I think you overrexagerrate the 5 tournaments things.
2 were AC, which personally I don't care but one we get out after PK and an horrible referee and the other we reached semi final and lost against an asian powerhouse he mainly lost against.

Wc 2014 and 2018, every people were predicting we will get trashed by Argentina, portugal and Spain. As it didn't happen, people are now pooroo and think we should have done better as if we suddenly became Japan!

Between 2019 and wc, people were criticizing IFF for letting CQ go, were following CQ in Colombia and Egypt like groupies (don't remember the thread about cq during afcon), were killing themselves when cq reach afcon final, etc..

Before wc2022, people were predicting 3 straight loss. Now, just because cq with only 2 months couldn't do miracles and didn't do more than our first wc win against a European country is now the worst shit even

Lol how can i overexaggarate the 5 tournament things when those are the only tournaments that matter?
Nobody cares about finishing 1st or 2nd in qualifiers, it’s the real tournaments that matters. And he has failed miserably in every one of them!

CQ is the only one to blame for WC22 disaster. He took the job knowing full well the risks and what was expected of him. And he totally fucked up. He deserves every bit of criticism that is thrown his way.

[Altamonte]

Lol how can i overexaggarate the 5 tournament things when those are the only tournaments that matter?
Nobody cares about finishing 1st or 2nd in qualifiers, it’s the real tournaments that matters. And he has failed miserably in every one of them!

CQ is the only one to blame for WC22 disaster. He took the job knowing full well the risks and what was expected of him. And he totally fucked up. He deserves every bit of criticism that is thrown his way.

Umm.... we did very well in 2018. Group of death?

[peiman92]

Umm.... we did very well in 2018. Group of death?

Group of death? Both Spain & Portugal were knocked out in R16. The only team that lost against Spain that WC was us. Morocco ( which was weaker compared to now) played the best football in the group lol. It wasn’t a group of death at all.

[Farzadfarhangni]

Dejagah Gucci and Ghoddos would not have joined TM if it wasn't for CQ

This is a fact. Farzad you can revise history. These players said they were actively getting recruited by CQ HARD and rejected prior invitations from GN, atleast in Gucci's case

Before CQ, Iran's lineups: aging Kaebi, aging Zandi, aging Mahdavikia, aging Hashemian, all washed out players people like Ghotbi had to rely on

Missed out on 2010 WC to fucking North Korea

During CQ: brought the cream of the crop and an entirely new swath of players on his watch. Taremi, Dejagah, Gucci, Azmoun, Saeed, Beiro, Majid Hosseini, Amiri

Two WCQ in a row. Third one with his cohort of players

Skocic didn't introduce one new player that got consistent minutes other than Nourafkhan in his two years

It is a fact????? I am not revising history. Read what I said. I said AFTER Gucci was convinced that he had no chance of playing for Netherlands and Dejagah knew that he would not be able to play for Germany, they agreed to play for Iran. As you admit, GN was trying to recruit Gucci too. So its not a new idea. The only difference was that by CQ time, Gucci was getting older and knew he had little to no chance of playing for Netherland while he was still hopeful of playing for Netherlands during GN's time. You make it sound like it is a revolutionary idea but as you recall, Zandi came from Germany to play for us too. Was that CQ's idea too!!! Are you willing to praise whoever the coach was that brought Zandi to TM as much as you praise CQ?

CQ is just good at getting credit for himself for doing the most ordinary things.

You say Ghotbi had to rely on washed up players. Why? Because he was on the job like a year and had "must win" games to qualify for WC and go to AC. CQ had so many years at TM and you can't continue to use the same players until they are sixty years old... Only natural for new younger players to replace them. You talk like before CQ, TM was still playing with Ali Parvin and Mazloomi. Baba, old players leave and new ones arrive. If anything, you can say that CQ's insistence on playing his old players in WC 2022 is exactly similar to Ghotbi's situation in 2010. When you have "must win" games and no time or friendlies, you stretch and play older proven players instead of risking and playing unproven players.

This applied to Skocic too as for the most part, he had "must win" games. Still, he invited many new players to TM camps and tried new players here and there but given the nature of the games, he could not go out with too many unexperienced players. Still, average age of Skocic's team was younger than CQ's WC 2022 team and Sadegh Moharami, Nourafkan and Allahyar amongst others that I can't recall were not CQ players... And as you know, we have a bunch of other young, up and coming players too... Rebirth happens naturally but again CQ fans assume that rebirth only happened because of CQ.

[oracle]

You know why he keeps losing those games?
He lacks the winning mentality needed. All talk but no action. He thinks of himself of a top 20 coach (lol) but has only failed lol.

can we give the BEST TM COACH IN tm HISTORY until Asian cup ,unless you can guarantee next
hc will win the Asian cup , is cq job.

Those glory days of ALI DAIE GETTING DISCOVERED AT 24 ,oh memory lanes .
forget the glory game of losing to Peru 4-1
IRAN GOALIE saved FEW MORE THAN few.

only if cq had tm from 1970 to 1978
cq would of taked us to 1970,1974,1978, wc
instead of going to wc once
1970s WITH THAT KIND TALENT
Should of advanced from a wc group
not be happy we made wc once
Tm was Asian cup champs 3 times in the row
That's evidence of what I am estating above
we should of
1.minimum made 3 wc in the row
ntality
2.should of advance from the group stage maximum in 3 consecutive wc appearance.

ONLY IF WE HAD CQ THEN

[O-ZoNe]

can we give the BEST TM COACH IN tm HISTORY until Asian cup ,unless you can guarantee next
hc will win the Asian cup , is cq job.

Those glory days of ALI DAIE GETTING DISCOVERED AT 24 ,oh memory lanes .
forget the glory game of losing to Peru 4-1
IRAN GOALIE saved FEW MORE THAN few.

only if cq had tm from 1970 to 1978
cq would of taked us to 1970,1974,1978, wc
instead of going to wc once
1970s WITH THAT KIND TALENT
Should of advanced from a wc group
not be happy we made wc once
Tm was Asian cup champs 3 times in the row
That's evidence of what I am estating above
we should of
1.minimum made 3 wc in the row
ntality
2.should of advance from the group stage maximum in 3 consecutive wc appearance.

ONLY IF WE HAD CQ THEN

If "ifs and buts were candy and nuts we would all have a merry christmas"...

First you claim we failed to advance from every AC before CQ...false...and now these claims...vayvela our fans are so lost its as if CQ invented football to them!

Even CQ didn't qualify for 3 WC in a row. Did you forget he only became our coach after we qualified this for Qatar 22? Not only that he didn't qualify with two other teams for the same WC prior to taking over for TM...lol

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[Hosseini]

1) How are you able to read Gucci and Ashkan's heads? There was no movement for them to play for TM before CQ came to the helm. CQ went to them personally to recruit and convince them to come to TM. He also did that with the Namazi brothers (Filipino and Swedish), Hasegawa, Beitashour, and Daniel Davari. He went far and beyond with his job to freshen up the pool of players that exists, within Iran and outside Iran.

https://iranwire.com/en/society/6172...%20Iranian%20c citizenship.

"This has been Queiroz’s biggest contribution: to bring big stars to the national team. When Amir Ghalenoei was the coach, he did invite Ashkan Dejagah to join the national team, but Dejagah rejected the offer. The rejection became a grudge for Ghalenoei who in 2012 publicly complained onRadio Javan about Dejagah's refusal to join when he was manager. But there had been differences in the two invitations. Queiroz talked directly with Ashkan Dejagah and Reza Ghoochannejhad. He did the same thing for the attacking midfielder Aria Jasuru Hasegawa, going to Japan to negotiate with him and his family and persuade him join the national team. Hasegawa was born to an Iranian father and a Japanese mother; his mother was against her son accepting Iranian citizenship."

2) I'm not attacking Ghotbi for using those players. I'm saying that was the part pool of players before CQ took the helm. 2011 AC is probably a better example to use - outside of Nekounam and Shojaei, we had no legionnaires. He had to start completely fresh and should take a lot of credit for building the strong foundation that exists today.

3) Skocic only bringing in Nourafkhan as a new key starter was a tragedy and showed he couldn't bring a fresh approach to our football. His most ambitious experimentation was putting him at CB vs Algeria. Very little experimenting. You can chalk it up to "getting results" all you want, but it's the reality of the situation.

Moharammi was first called up and played for CQ against Uzbekistan.

It is a fact????? I am not revising history. Read what I said. I said AFTER Gucci was convinced that he had no chance of playing for Netherlands and Dejagah knew that he would not be able to play for Germany, they agreed to play for Iran. As you admit, GN was trying to recruit Gucci too. So its not a new idea. The only difference was that by CQ time, Gucci was getting older and knew he had little to no chance of playing for Netherland while he was still hopeful of playing for Netherlands during GN's time. You make it sound like it is a revolutionary idea but as you recall, Zandi came from Germany to play for us too. Was that CQ's idea too!!! Are you willing to praise whoever the coach was that brought Zandi to TM as much as you praise CQ?

CQ is just good at getting credit for himself for doing the most ordinary things.

You say Ghotbi had to rely on washed up players. Why? Because he was on the job like a year and had "must win" games to qualify for WC and go to AC. CQ had so many years at TM and you can't continue to use the same players until they are sixty years old... Only natural for new younger players to replace them. You talk like before CQ, TM was still playing with Ali Parvin and Mazloomi. Baba, old players leave and new ones arrive. If anything, you can say that CQ's insistence on playing his old players in WC 2022 is exactly similar to Ghotbi's situation in 2010. When you have "must win" games and no time or friendlies, you stretch and play older proven players instead of risking and playing unproven players.

This applied to Skocic too as for the most part, he had "must win" games. Still, he invited many new players to TM camps and tried new players here and there but given the nature of the games, he could not go out with too many unexperienced players. Still, average age of Skocic's team was younger than CQ's WC 2022 team and Sadegh Moharami, Nourafkan and Allahyar amongst others that I can't recall were not CQ players... And as you know, we have a bunch of other young, up and coming players too... Rebirth happens naturally but again CQ fans assume that rebirth only happened because of CQ.

[Hosseini]

(In the spirit of Kateb): Memo to Ozone, Farzad, and Peiman

Legionnaires before CQ arrived: 2/23

Legionnaires after CQ left: 12/23

Just luck, right? Coach had no influence at all?

[oracle]

The glory pre cq time of
daie get fired, maylikohan becomes coach
Resign. Afshin gotbi gets the job,
is as glory of needing azizi out of retirement to advance
to 3rd round of wcq 2006,
the good old pre cq days