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    Originally posted by Prowess View Post
    Many people forget the dark ages we fell into after WC 2006. CQ single-handedly brought us out of it, qualifying us to back to back world cups, and giving us the best WC results in team melli history in 2018.

    It’s because of CQ that we always expect to effortlessly qualify for each WC now, it’s because of CQ we had players like Dejagah & Gucci in the squad, and Ghoddos now.

    Most importantly, you see how he developed the team in terms of fitness, tactics, depth, and player development from WC2014 to WC2018.

    He only had a few months with the team. Of course he’s forced to play with an aging squad. He definitely has his flaws as a coach. In spite of it all, we were actually quite close to drawing USA in the final match.

    The combination of having a black & mentality plus lack of gratitude will only halt our progress. If we can get someone who’s at least on the same level as CQ, then great. If not, then we should be lucky to still have a coach like him.

    Btw, if it wasn’t for CQ, Taremi most likely would not be tearing it up at Porto right now.
    before cq 1930 until 2014 =3 wc
    After cq 3 wc appearance

    World cup was impossible mission before cq
    Since cq wc is noghlo nabat


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      Originally posted by Prowess View Post
      Many people forget the dark ages we fell into after WC 2006. CQ single-handedly brought us out of it, qualifying us to back to back world cups, and giving us the best WC results in team melli history in 2018.

      It’s because of CQ that we always expect to effortlessly qualify for each WC now, it’s because of CQ we had players like Dejagah & Gucci in the squad, and Ghoddos now.

      Most importantly, you see how he developed the team in terms of fitness, tactics, depth, and player development from WC2014 to WC2018.

      He only had a few months with the team. Of course he’s forced to play with an aging squad. He definitely has his flaws as a coach. In spite of it all, we were actually quite close to drawing USA in the final match.

      The combination of having a black & mentality plus lack of gratitude will only halt our progress. If we can get someone who’s at least on the same level as CQ, then great. If not, then we should be lucky to still have a coach like him.

      Btw, if it wasn’t for CQ, Taremi most likely would not be tearing it up at Porto right now.
      The only thing that will halt our progress is continuing with a failure like CQ. The points you’re bringing up is not enough to justify 5 tournament failures in a row.

      CQ has only survived because of his manipulative social skills. He should be a politician instead. I can’t even imagine what they would have done to an iranian coach, if he would have failed in 5 big tournaments.
      Esteghlal 💙💙

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        Originally posted by peiman92 View Post

        The only thing that will halt our progress is continuing with a failure like CQ. The points you’re bringing up is not enough to justify 5 tournament failures in a row.

        CQ has only survived because of his manipulative social skills. He should be a politician instead. I can’t even imagine what they would have done to an iranian coach, if he would have failed in 5 big tournaments.
        I forgot all those world cup matches we won before cq, I forgot all the ac trophies we won from
        1976 till 2015.

        SHAYAD BEH GHOLEH ALI DAIE MA ZENDAN
        BODIM YADEMOON NEMIYAD.

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          Originally posted by peiman92 View Post

          The only thing that will halt our progress is continuing with a failure like CQ. The points you’re bringing up is not enough to justify 5 tournament failures in a row.

          CQ has only survived because of his manipulative social skills. He should be a politician instead. I can’t even imagine what they would have done to an iranian coach, if he would have failed in 5 big tournaments.

          Based on your interpretation, the last time team melli has "not" failed was in 1976 when we won the Asian Cup. We have pretty much always "failed," even before CQ.

          This is the exact black & white reasoning I'm referring to. When CQ initially got hired, the realistic goal was to simply qualify to the WC. He did it twice, unprecedented in our history, and RAISED our expectation to always qualify now. If you don't see progress in our tournament performance/results from when CQ first got hired till 2019, then we just view reality very differently. The fact is, in today's modern game, if you want to "succeed" in tournaments, it requires much, much more than a competent head coach. You need a competent football federation, proper youth investment, friendlies, etc. We badly fail in those 3 factors.

          Also, it's unfair to count Qatar 2022 against him. He only had a few months. To complain about CQ, and not offer a realistic alternative head coach who's at least on the same level as him, is asking for us to go back to Pre-CQ era, aka our most recent Dark Age of Team Melli.

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            Peyman wants
            parviz mazlumi head coach
            Ibrahim Tahami modir fani(ageh tehronia bezaran)
            Haj fat so sarparast.

            This is peyman starting line up

            Hosseini
            daneshmand moradmand yazdani salmani
            Mehdipor Omid ebrahimi
            Kaveh rezaie. Ghaedi
            Peyman babaie. Arslan motaheri

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              Who can forget those glory days
              of rezaie ,golamnejad rip
              In tm shining like stars
              Before cq came

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                Originally posted by kateb View Post

                before cq 1930 until 2014 =3 wc
                After cq 3 wc appearance

                World cup was impossible mission before cq
                Since cq wc is noghlo nabat

                Lol wtf?

                Before Cq 3 Asian Cups. Wc qualification under much more stringent WCQ. After Cq fastest WCQ ever. Enough said.

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                Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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                  Originally posted by kateb View Post

                  I forgot all those world cup matches we won before cq, I forgot all the ac trophies we won from
                  1976 till 2015.

                  SHAYAD BEH GHOLEH ALI DAIE MA ZENDAN
                  BODIM YADEMOON NEMIYAD.

                  Didn't we hire him to get to R16 of WC and AC title? He has failed in 5 straight tournaments.
                  Which one of those coaches before CQ has failed in 5 straight tournaments?
                  That's right, 0.​

                  The way you guys are portraying him, makes it sound like he has won 2 AC and qualified to the R16 in the last 3 WC.
                  He has failed terribly and needs to get kicked out before another abero rizi happens.
                  Esteghlal 💙💙

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                    Originally posted by peiman92 View Post


                    Didn't we hire him to get to R16 of WC and AC title? He has failed in 5 straight tournaments.
                    Which one of those coaches before CQ has failed in 5 straight tournaments?
                    That's right, 0.​

                    The way you guys are portraying him, makes it sound like he has won 2 AC and qualified to the R16 in the last 3 WC.
                    He has failed terribly and needs to get kicked out before another abero rizi happens.
                    I think you overrexagerrate the 5 tournaments things.
                    2 were AC, which personally I don't care but one we get out after PK and an horrible referee and the other we reached semi final and lost against an asian powerhouse he mainly lost against.

                    Wc 2014 and 2018, every people were predicting we will get trashed by Argentina, portugal and Spain. As it didn't happen, people are now pooroo and think we should have done better as if we suddenly became Japan!

                    Between 2019 and wc, people were criticizing IFF for letting CQ go, were following CQ in Colombia and Egypt like groupies (don't remember the thread about cq during afcon), were killing themselves when cq reach afcon final, etc..

                    Before wc2022, people were predicting 3 straight loss. Now, just because cq with only 2 months couldn't do miracles and didn't do more than our first wc win against a European country is now the worst shit even

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                      Who can forget The glory days of not advancing from our ac
                      group before cq came


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                        Originally posted by Prowess View Post
                        Many people forget the dark ages we fell into after WC 2006. CQ single-handedly brought us out of it, qualifying us to back to back world cups, and giving us the best WC results in team melli history in 2018.
                        Lets compare his majesty CQ to the peasant Skocic. TM post 2006 WC was in much better shape than when Skocic took over post Wilmots on the verge of disqualification. Resources given to CQ was much better than Skocic. The term of the contract was much longer than Skocic. The amount of camps and friendlies available to CQ was much better than Covid era Skocic. And yet CQ barely qualified us for 2014 WC while Skocic gave us our easiest qualification ever. We don't know how Skocic would have done in 2022 WC and much less in 2026 WC to compare it with 2018 WC of CQ. Particularly, if Skocic was given a win in 2026 by a team that dominated us and then decided to score an own goal in the dying minutes of the game.

                        Originally posted by Prowess View Post
                        It’s because of CQ that we always expect to effortlessly qualify for each WC now, it’s because of CQ we had players like Dejagah & Gucci in the squad, and Ghoddos now
                        And yet our easiest qualification came under Skocic. And what is all this watermelon we put under CQ's armpits? Dejagah and Gucci joined Iran after it became clear to them that they won't make the senior national teams of Germany and Netherlands. God bless them and I have no problem with that. That is the way it works everywhere. But to say that they joined because of CQ and they would not have joined under other coaches is just made up. Do we have any example of a player that was of Dejagah and Gucci's caliber that knew that they will play no role under their country of residence national team and yet refused to play for Iran?

                        Ghoddos was borderline whether he could get into Sweden's national team or not and thought he could come in to Iran's national team and advance his career. Again, god bless him for choosing Iran but lets not give random credit to CQ for it.

                        Originally posted by Prowess View Post
                        Most importantly, you see how he developed the team in terms of fitness, tactics, depth, and player development from WC2014 to WC2018.

                        He only had a few months with the team. Of course he’s forced to play with an aging squad. He definitely has his flaws as a coach. In spite of it all, we were actually quite close to drawing USA in the final match.
                        Your two comments contradict each other. You imply that he understand the importance of fitness, tactics, etc... which are not doable in a few months, and yet he worked very hard to take over exactly two months before WC... Great coach or opportunist?

                        And btw, I think our best WC was 1998 as far as fitness, tactics, etc... If I could go back in time and attend only one of TM's WCs, it would most definitely be 1998.

                        Originally posted by Prowess View Post
                        The combination of having a black & mentality plus lack of gratitude will only halt our progress. If we can get someone who’s at least on the same level as CQ, then great. If not, then we should be lucky to still have a coach like him.

                        Btw, if it wasn’t for CQ, Taremi most likely would not be tearing it up at Porto right now.
                        Again, we have had Dayi, Mahdavikia, etc... in Europe way before CQ step foot in Iran. Dayi's clubs and Mahdavikia's clubs must have checked in with some of Iran's Croatian coaches such as Ivic and some domestic coaches too and asked for some tapes and recommendations, etc... It's just that those coaches were not as good a politician to make the player feel he owes everything to them.

                        Just like the long list of Iranian players going to Portugal post Taremi's successes, a long list of Iranian players went to Germany post Dayi, Mahdavikia, Bagheri's successes. It is only natural. And to only have Taremi as an example after such a long time at the helm of TM is almost a failure for CQ.
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                          Who can forget the glory days of
                          After 2006 wc , tm getting suspended by fifa, before cq, and 🐔chicken kobideh was just entering persian restaurants in iran from
                          place of its invention usa. Those glory days of bronko didn't have balls to come back with tm
                          To explain why why why why oh the good ol
                          resources of 2006 makes me want go back in time, and re live the those moments.


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                            Originally posted by kateb View Post
                            Who can forget the glory days of
                            After 2006 wc , tm getting suspended by fifa, before cq, and 🐔chicken kobideh was just entering persian restaurants in iran from
                            place of its invention usa. Those glory days of bronko didn't have balls to come back with tm
                            To explain why why why why oh the good ol
                            resources of 2006 makes me want go back in time, and re live the those moments.

                            Newsflash. Cq transplanted Branko balls cause he is no where to be found. Lol Taj and De Sa apologizing while nothing from CQ. The prolific tweeter has gone silent. Likely negotiation with Orlando Pirates or some other poor nation as we speak.

                            Dig be dig migeh roohet sia!



                            Originally posted by kateb View Post
                            Who can forget The glory days of not advancing from our ac
                            group before cq came

                            Ladies and gentlemen this is called drinking too much CQOOLAID to the point you are both constipated and experiencing diarrhea due to your biases.

                            AC before CQ:

                            2011 Group Winners
                            2007 Group Winners
                            2004 2nd to Japan and advance
                            2000 Group Winners
                            1996 Group Winners

                            1992 is last time Iran finished outside of top 2 at group stage!

                            Kateb makes you believe we had nothing before CQ. Just fake news spreading!

                            #CQfraudOut #stopdrinkingCQoolaid
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                            Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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                              Dejagah Gucci and Ghoddos would not have joined TM if it wasn't for CQ

                              This is a fact. Farzad you can revise history. These players said they were actively getting recruited by CQ HARD and rejected prior invitations from GN, atleast in Gucci's case

                              Before CQ, Iran's lineups: aging Kaebi, aging Zandi, aging Mahdavikia, aging Hashemian, all washed out players people like Ghotbi had to rely on

                              Missed out on 2010 WC to fucking North Korea

                              During CQ: brought the cream of the crop and an entirely new swath of players on his watch. Taremi, Dejagah, Gucci, Azmoun, Saeed, Beiro, Majid Hosseini, Amiri

                              Two WCQ in a row. Third one with his cohort of players

                              Skocic didn't introduce one new player that got consistent minutes other than Nourafkhan in his two years
                              Last edited by Hosseini; 12-29-2022, 01:32 PM.

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                                Heyfeh CQ lost on penalties in AFCON and Wcq playoff then these haters would learn about what they missed out on, finishing with one point at best in the WC with Skocic

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